Just got back from this, my first 3D film. It makes your eyes tire doesn't it?
Anyway I'm going to go contrary to the guarded cynicism and say it's the best blockbuster since LOTR IMO. Thoroughly enjoyed it, it had the nature stuff, the tribal stuff, the Cameron mil-porn stuff, and it had some genuine emotional beats too.
The best looking film I've ever seen for special effects and yes Cameron's action sequences are superb, you can actually tell what is happening.
I will say Kate Winslet was poor in it. There was one line of hers that rivalled the lake on Naboo howler. The one about 'many breeding seasons'. She delivered it as well as anybody could be expected, waste of talent there.
Not long back from seeing it on a Laser IMAX screen with my nine year old daughter.
Best fucking movie experience I’ve ever had in a cinema. Easy call. Neither of us lost interest for a moment during the whole runtime. The spectacle, the immersion, the feeling of looking through a portal into another world, was without compare. The story, the centering in family, the way the script got so, so many of the little moments, glances, sighs and general interactions of parents and kids, siblings among each other and kids with friends and enemies, these are the human elements that connect with the bulk of the audience who aren’t looking for something to be sour about, or pissed because you know what Hudson just ain’t coming back to the screen ergo Cameron is passed it
The action sequences in this film are, in my opinion, the most well structured and shot, muscle clenchingly intense and just fucking awesome yet put to film. An alien planet, blue people, flying in and out of the water, giant boats zooming all over, whales, things blowing up, arrows, bullets, more whales, things turning upside down, all of that shit and more and not once was in the least bit confused as to what was going on. In a world where two cunts punching each other in a single room is typically hard to follow…
Cameron is at the top of his game. Talking with my kid, both of us giddy, on ride home, I was telling her how he’s been my favorite director and made many of my most favorite films since I first saw Aliens on VHS while visiting my brother in the states. I was maybe three years older than her. She said he’s her favorite director, (helps her first Cameron movie was also Aliens, couple years ago)
He gets the family, the generational thing.
I know we were spoiled seeing it at the very best possible screen experience you can get for this film. The. HFR stuff was truly mind boggling. The stuff on the screen during the climactic battle was truly like I was right there inside the scene.
Anyway, obviously I could keep going on. Can’t honestly find damn thing wrong with it that isn’t negated by going along with what this movie was trying to achieve. Many of the points of criticism I’ve seen are akin to saying motor racing is shit because no one scores any goals.
Cameron did an interview or something this week and confirmed that it was days away from breaking even so he’s getting ready to spend the next 6 or 7 years working on the sequels. $2b wasn’t the number: it was less but still high.
I’m pretty sure the high number was to break even on all expenses incurred so far. As in, all the R&D for the technology and the cost of shooting 2,3 and some of 4
We will almost certainly never know, but I reckon the marketing budget for this one hasn’t been too extreme. Almost all of the mention of the movie I’ve seen gage either been quoting Cameron directly or pieces generated by journalists opining if the avatar phenomenon was still alive, whether it was going to flop and then just reheating articles from 13 years ago
Kind of like a reverse Streisand effect. Seems to have been a very efficient strategy, as it’s making money hand over fist. I think this film is going to keep playing for months as word of mouth and it once more being part of the zeitgeist really take effect
I saw this just after Christmas in the big Imax in Glasgow. Absolutely loved it in all honesty. As a cinema "experience" it was hard to beat. The film itself was far from flawless but it looked so amazing that I was captivated the entire time. Like the first, it's a one and done thing for me on the big 3D screen. There's nothing else quite like seeing these films and I would very much like another please Jim, so carry on.
Funnily enough China's had a massive drop off this week, maybe to do with new year perhaps. The big European and Asian countries like France, Germany and South Korea were bigger grosses than China this week.
The film is still number 1 at the box office in almost every country at the moment, it's just doing really well everywhere not just specific places.
Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 29, 2023 13:29:03 GMT
Over the past few years, a lot of the top grossing movies in the world were Chinese movies that *only* released in China. It is a huge market.
That said, I kinda expected Avatar 2 to rely on the Chinese market, as the first one was pretty popular there and I thought it wouldn't be that popular in the west. But the Covid situation in China has cut their boxoffice quite a bit, and it seems to be doing well in the west, so I clearly know nothing.
Side note, I had assumed that Cameron was also responsible for some of the most expensive movies ever made, what with Titanic and Avatar, but it turns out the most expensive movie ever is Pirates of the Caribbean 4 (on stranger tides). Which is a bit WTF as nothing in that movie looks particularly special or expensive.
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