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Post by Singularity on Nov 12, 2021 10:13:30 GMT
So I didn't get to the end of the remaster of 3. I know there is a link between the two, but presumably I'm cool jumping straight into this one?
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Post by uiruki on Nov 12, 2021 10:14:18 GMT
Yeah, you'll be fine.
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Post by suicida on Nov 12, 2021 10:15:22 GMT
You're fine, there's no story link between the two games. They're thematically very similar but no story progression from III to V
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Post by Singularity on Nov 12, 2021 12:25:15 GMT
Sweet. Cheers.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 12, 2021 12:33:48 GMT
This supposedly shipped on Tuesday with no tracking info... Fingers crossed it turns up today/tomorrow.
I need my Mara fix
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Nov 12, 2021 13:16:05 GMT
Mine is on the way but no days off work sadly. Also still got the huge box coming home to wife factor to deal with too...
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Post by Humperfunk on Nov 12, 2021 14:16:54 GMT
Shopto in their infinite wisdom decided to post a preorder game by second class post, so predictably didn't turn up today. I'm away for a week first thing tomorrow so fuck em, I've downloaded off the eShop, got £5 credit to use so no matter (I prefer digital anyway these days as can't be arsed with the clutter).
Done the first hour and very good so far.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 12, 2021 14:24:27 GMT
It unlocked on Wednesday afternoon for me (Japanese release) and I'm honestly finding it a bit hard to play with the framerate. It's better in handheld but it's really quite rough on a TV. I've been considering hacking my Switch so I can just take the files off it and run the game on an emulator. Is that just because it's locked at 30fps or are there drops?
I heard there were issues with Metroid Dread but didn't experience any problems at all. Maybe I've got a Super Switch
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Post by elstoof on Nov 12, 2021 14:50:25 GMT
Is yours an original or the 2019 Mariko refresh
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 12, 2021 14:55:21 GMT
I can't discuss matters of temporal irregularities
Oh I read your post as 2029
It's pretty new but not the white one
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Post by elstoof on Nov 12, 2021 15:59:34 GMT
Might test my OG switch with Metroid against the oled one to see if it performs better on 16nm
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Post by uiruki on Nov 12, 2021 16:18:18 GMT
It unlocked on Wednesday afternoon for me (Japanese release) and I'm honestly finding it a bit hard to play with the framerate. It's better in handheld but it's really quite rough on a TV. I've been considering hacking my Switch so I can just take the files off it and run the game on an emulator. Is that just because it's locked at 30fps or are there drops?
I heard there were issues with Metroid Dread but didn't experience any problems at all. Maybe I've got a Super Switch
It's pretty much never at 30fps. Even the blank screen at the start with just the text box at the bottom skips and stutters. Metroid spent a fair percentage at 60 and only really consistently suffered when you were using the scan gadget a lot. |
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Post by dfunked on Nov 12, 2021 16:29:52 GMT
Metroid was pretty bad for me, but it seemed to only happen when it was background streaming new data in, which was mainly just running from room to room. It was pretty jarring but never happened in combat that I noticed.
I'm going to have an awful time with this presumably...
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 12, 2021 17:10:45 GMT
Might test my OG switch with Metroid against the oled one to see if it performs better on 16nm I only played it docked too |
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Post by suicida on Nov 12, 2021 17:21:59 GMT
Ehh, I'm playing handheld mode and not had any issues so far. I've never really been that sensitive to frame rate drops, people said the Nocturne remaster has the same issues and it was perfectly fine for me. YMMV of course.
A couple of hours in and loving it. Was feeling brave so started on hard mode, and was then promptly reminded that this is an SMT game and got the MC killed by a slime in the second battle. Back to the title screen I go. We'll see how far I get before I get tempted to drop down to normal difficulty but making steady progress.
The demon handbook from the special edition is a lovely thing with some really great art
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 12, 2021 17:30:06 GMT
Ehh, I'm playing handheld mode and not had any issues so far. I've never really been that sensitive to frame rate drops, people said the Nocturne remaster has the same issues and it was perfectly fine for me. YMMV of course. A couple of hours in and loving it. Was feeling brave so started on hard mode, and was then promptly reminded that this is an SMT game and got the MC killed by a slime in the second battle. Back to the title screen I go. We'll see how far I get before I get tempted to drop down to normal difficulty but making steady progress. The demon handbook from the special edition is a lovely thing with some really great art Yeah, I remember the Matador boss fight took me quite a while in SMTIII. Wasn't used to JRPGs being that tough and it seemed almost impossible
Seriously thinking about picking this up (part of me just wants to see all the different demon designs with modern graphics as I haven't played P5). The performance issues are a bit of a concern though |
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Post by malek86 on Nov 12, 2021 17:31:40 GMT
I'd imagine performance issues don't matter all that much in a JRPG? Unless you are playing something like Tales.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 12, 2021 17:34:04 GMT
I'd imagine performance issues don't matter all that much in a JRPG? Unless you are playing something like Tales. I was thinking that but presentation in JRPGs (especially SMT) is pretty important so if it has an impact on that it could be an issue |
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Post by suicida on Nov 12, 2021 17:40:57 GMT
Honestly, it's fine. Certainly not bad enough to not play it.
Speaking of Matador, I bought the Demi-Fiend DLC and I just got one shot by the skull faced jerk. Guess I'm coming back to him later as I'm only level 6 at the moment and one hit did over 3x my max HP.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 12, 2021 17:46:56 GMT
What's the DLC?
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Post by suicida on Nov 12, 2021 17:54:59 GMT
Looks like it's basically the Menorah plot and Fiend battles from Nocturne, ending with a boss fight against Demi-Fiend. Presumably you unlock them for fusion after beating them like in Nocturne (I'm hoping Daisoujou is still as OP as he was)
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 12, 2021 17:59:24 GMT
I'll order this tomorrow then. I went full physical in SMTIII and doing a few turns of buffs and debuffs and then killing God with about 4 super punches to the face was really satisfying
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:04:11 GMT
Punch it until it dies is the best strategy.
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Post by malek86 on Nov 12, 2021 18:26:26 GMT
So are the buff and debuff spells still as ridiculously overpowered as in the PS2 games?
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Post by suicida on Nov 12, 2021 18:34:03 GMT
They've nerfed them so they work more like Persona. I only have the defense buff so far but it's single target and only lasts 3 turns. Stack up to 3 times I think.
The Magatsuhi skills seen OP af though. Once you build up the meter and activate the skill, it makes all your skills land criticals for one turn, combine that with the press turn system and you get a double turn, all crits. It's great. The enemies can do it too, though
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Nov 12, 2021 23:08:44 GMT
Game has arrived but I will wait until tomorrow to get started on it as I have a day off on Sunday...
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Post by suicida on Nov 13, 2021 13:01:22 GMT
A few thoughts after playing this for most of yesterday and this morning. I woke up today thinking about demon fusions and skill builds so it's safe to say this game has its claws in me.
Exploring the overworld is fantastic, it looks incredible in handheld mode. The QoL changes are all really good for smoothing out some of SMTs rougher edges, eg. no random battles, and the changes to the demon compendium make planning out fusions much less of a ballache.
Am at the first proper boss fight, and it's kicking my arse in the same way Matador did in Nocturne, and Minotaur did in IV, and it's playing the same role of a skill check to make sure you've been paying attention. Some people were worried that Atlus were gonna make things easier to go for more mass market appeal like Persona, and I'm glad to see that this is not the case. It's still definitely an SMT game. (There is an easy mode free DLC for those people who just wanna see the story play out)
Loving it. Got the week off and gonna play the hell out of this.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 13, 2021 14:10:08 GMT
Are there any problems with Nocturne on the Switch? Noticed it when I was buying V and was slightly tempted
I did not see Digital Devil Saga. Sad face
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Post by suicida on Nov 13, 2021 14:15:18 GMT
I loved it, played through the entire thing with no issues (handheld mode)
I thought Atlus did a great job with the remaster and it looked really good. Gonna go back to it at some point for the other endings.
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Post by uiruki on Nov 13, 2021 14:27:56 GMT
I think the Switch version had some bad loading issues on the initial Japanese release, affecting menu responsiveness, but it's massively improved with patches.
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