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Post by simple on Aug 22, 2022 17:54:34 GMT
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Post by cubby on Aug 22, 2022 18:31:30 GMT
I'd struggle with it being an issue from 2016, because consumers had a choice to buy alternatives. But I can definitely see there being an argument for the price fixing affecting owners of the digital PS5.
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Post by 😎 on Aug 22, 2022 19:21:10 GMT
Surely this only works if there’s evidence that a digital item has a higher RRP than a physical one, and I’m not sure that’s ever been the case. Some seller discounting under RRP isn’t really the same thing and I can’t see this going anywhere.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 22, 2022 19:30:00 GMT
Yeah, I'm reading this and I can't see this gaining traction seeing as they'll just say they've been setting against the RRP and not the discounted prices that are offered by online retailers for boxed copies. If you go somewhere like a brick and mortar store like Game and GameStop you're going to pay RRP someone like Amazon will eat that cost to get people through the door. It isn't remotely the same.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2022 19:33:04 GMT
also.. you always have the option of waiting on any of their weekly sales. Prices drop FAST even digitally.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 22, 2022 19:36:11 GMT
also.. you always have the option of waiting on any of their weekly sales. Prices drop FAST even digitally. 1st party Sony games not so much but everything else yeah. I remember Guardians of the Galaxy being on a big discount over a month after release. The premise is that people are unable to wait for a discount. Is this just a law firm try to drum up publicity? |
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Post by Danno on Aug 22, 2022 19:47:48 GMT
The only thing that makes me think that they have a claim here is that funders are involved (and Counsel has therefore advised them to proceed). They don't take a punt on anything below a 60-70% chance of success unless they want to go out of business.
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Post by bichii on Aug 22, 2022 19:52:33 GMT
They should be getting sued for being just straight up rip off bastards. £70 for a game!  . Plus that standard bs UK thing we've always put up with where often Sony sell a game for the same £/$ no matter the exchange rate. £70 for a digital copy they can block at any time. |
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Post by Whizzo on Aug 22, 2022 20:02:09 GMT
It's a rather strange claim and I can't see it getting anywhere.
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Post by Gruf on Aug 22, 2022 20:06:02 GMT
Good, hope Sony get fucked.
They control the market for digital sales. If I could buy digitally ANYWHERE else then fair enough, but I cannot.
It is a closed market, they have a monopoly.
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Post by deebs on Aug 23, 2022 5:58:17 GMT
I can imagine it being the sort of case where this Neill guy gets trolled to shit by PS fanboys for attacking their platform of choice. They'd have to learn how to write a cogent sentence first. |
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Post by rawshark on Aug 23, 2022 18:36:48 GMT
I don’t really get how Sony are getting dragged over the coals for this while Nintendo and Microsoft aren’t. Are the stores significantly different in terms of pricing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 18:41:44 GMT
apart from Sony's "new games should be £$€70" stance, not really.
That's the thing about both this, and the Epic vs Apple trial.
It's not a monopoly if you have legitimate competition or alternatives.
People act like Sony makes the only console, Apple makes the only phone.
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Post by bichii on Aug 24, 2022 7:42:48 GMT
I'm not sure about Nintendo but with Microsoft you can buy the digital codes elsewhere. So the one new game I purchased on Xbox was £10 cheaper for the code at shopto. I had the choice of where I purchased my digital game.
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Post by Gruf on Aug 24, 2022 8:52:00 GMT
If you have a digital only PS5, as I do, the only place you can purchase content is on the store.
Simple as that. You are be locked into one source with no competing market. So obviously a monopoly.
Xbox and especially Steam/PC you can shop around to your hearts content.
I don't for a minute think they will win the case BTW, the world we live in is currently is set up to fuck over the consumer more times than not.
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Post by Derblington on Aug 24, 2022 8:55:13 GMT
You can buy currency codes elsewhere.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Aug 24, 2022 8:55:24 GMT
I don't give a shit if they get sued but you have the option of buying a PS5 with a drive or a different console altogther
It's not like they've got a grip on the entire video game market
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Post by rockavitch on Aug 24, 2022 8:58:05 GMT
An "easy" defense against people who have a digital console though is that you chose to purchase it and therefore chose to limit yourself to that storefront. To be fair that's only an "easy" defense because non digital versions are available. It's not something I think justifies the prices as they are too high but it's very easy to say "alternatives are available and this is what you chose".
They can also argue that gaming is a luxury not an essential and that no one is forcing you to buy on day one citing the various sales they have as proof that opportunity to get them at a lower cost exist. FOMO isn't their responsibility.
Again I don't agree with the pricing at all and think they are taking the piss but until digital truly is the only option it's not going to be a strong argument.
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. Plus that standard bs UK thing we've always put up with where often Sony sell a game for the same £/$ no matter the exchange rate. £70 for a digital copy they can block at any time. 
