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Post by Lizard on Oct 9, 2021 19:44:25 GMT
You only need an oven tray for fish fingers and chips.
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Post by π on Oct 9, 2021 19:58:32 GMT
Looks delicious but a bit dry, is there a dipping sauce? I would eat the shit out of that and absolutely suffer for it for the following few hours. But it looks worth it.
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Post by dfunked on Oct 9, 2021 21:22:02 GMT
As much as I love Le Creuset stuff I've never gone for one of their pans for some reason. Might need to slowly start replacing stuff.
We've got the dullest set of stainless steel pans known to man, a stainless steel stockpot (had to get rid of a nice one because it wouldn't work on induction). Then just random other stuff that I want to get rid of.
I do have a couple of nice De Buyer carbon steel pans mind you, but they don't get enough use to take on a decent bit of colour.
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Post by Frog on Oct 9, 2021 21:27:04 GMT
Their pans are bloody great, absolutely brilliant to cook in.
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Post by Sarfrin on Oct 9, 2021 21:47:08 GMT
What am I doing wrong then? We had a Le Creuset casserole dish and stuff just stuck to it all the time.
ETA The best pan I've ever had is a Ken Hom wok. Still going strong after 30 years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 21:57:38 GMT
Stuff will stick to a good pan. It's called "fond" and it's a source of flavour. You want those burned on bits of you're into making sauces etc.
Good pans aren't about Teflon - they're about heat retention and distribution. Good pans get hot quick, stay hot and are hot all over.
Pleased to report that on the first few uses, these ProCook ones are pretty good. Making chicken adobo on Monday so I'll marinate the chicken tomorrow...
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Post by Sarfrin on Oct 9, 2021 23:52:41 GMT
You want browned bits on the food for flavour, it doesn't need to stick to the pan. If your sauce is burning to the bottom of the pan you're doing it wrong.
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Post by π on Oct 10, 2021 4:18:15 GMT
Non-stick is something of a misnomer anyway, stuff sticks to Le Creuset to some extent but the general point of them is that you can clean it off fairly easily without damaging the surface. Cheaper Teflon stuff might have a better time releasing food to start, but itβll scratch and wear down quickly. Le Creuset and other decent brands, properly maintained, will last for life. Some of the enameled iron builds up a patina of seasoning as you go as well, which a lot of people seem to think is stuck food.
Also you do usually want browned bits to stick to the pan, then deglaze it with some liquid, to create a pan sauce or gravy. As mentioned above itβs a way to generate intense flavors. Itβs an essential step for things like caramelizing onions.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 10, 2021 6:45:20 GMT
Dark Waters with Mark Ruffalo has meant we are trying to give away from Teflon. SautΓ© and griddle pan need replacing next.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Oct 10, 2021 7:47:43 GMT
No buttered bread, no sauce? Outrageous.
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 10, 2021 17:44:12 GMT
Anyone got any good recipes or advice for making Yorkshire pudding? As a Scandinavian I'm obliged to be very into anything pancake-related or pancake-adjecent (or else) but I've never tried to make this (we have something similar that we just call an oven pancake but we make them huge and cover them in bacon or fried pork).
Looking up recipes it seems Yorkshire pudding is one of those things you can shove essentially whatever you want in (beef? sausages? mashed potatoes? vegetables? gravy!?) and I worry I'll end up making either something way too tame or go too far and end up with some culinary atrocity.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Oct 10, 2021 18:07:35 GMT
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Post by eleven63 on Oct 10, 2021 18:08:45 GMT
Anyone got any good recipes or advice for making Yorkshire pudding? As a Scandinavian I'm obliged to be very into anything pancake-related or pancake-adjecent (or else) but I've never tried to make this (we have something similar that we just call an oven pancake but we make them huge and cover them in bacon or fried pork). Looking up recipes it seems Yorkshire pudding is one of those things you can shove essentially whatever you want in (beef? sausages? mashed potatoes? vegetables? gravy!?) and I worry I'll end up making either something way too tame or go too far and end up with some culinary atrocity. I use Jamie Oliver's recipe. 4 eggs 200ml of full fat milk 200grms plain flour Pinch of salt. Whisk together, make sure the batter is smooth. Heat the oven to 190c (fan) Put your cooking fat of choice - beef dripping is best, cooking oil is fine - into the Yorkshire pudding tray. And let the oil heat up for at least 15 mins. You want the batter to sizzle when poured into the fat. Cook for about 20mins. Don't open the oven until done. Enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 18:20:45 GMT
You want browned bits on the food for flavour, it doesn't need to stick to the pan. If your sauce is burning to the bottom of the pan you're doing it wrong. You need fond to make a good pan sauce, or if you're making a ragu - it's really difficult / impossible to get fond on a Teflon pan. It's a bit of a niche use case, admittedly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 18:24:49 GMT
Miso-glazed aubergine with sticky rice photos.app.goo.gl/awGWQedeQXoAXGn16Reet tasty. It's probably too sweet - the recipe called for sugar and honey, and I'd probably just stick to sugar next time. But it's very, very tasty. Also making chicken adobo. Well, the chicken is marinating and I've lashed it in the freezer for another day. I think the change of the season has really made me crave rich Asian flavours. I'll be using the left over aubergine and some of the chicken to make some bao later in the week, too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 18:27:01 GMT
You want browned bits on the food for flavour, it doesn't need to stick to the pan. If your sauce is burning to the bottom of the pan you're doing it wrong. If you're struggling to clean your pans, try some making soda in hot water. Or - once you're finished cooking - get some water straight in the pan, get it on the heat, and use a spatula or whatever to scrape those burned bits off. It should clean up nice and easy either way.
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Post by γΉγ³γγγ©γ³γ on Oct 10, 2021 22:41:59 GMT
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 10, 2021 23:08:26 GMT
Thanks! the Yorkshire pudding tray. This is not a thing I own, but I assume something like small ceramic oven dishes should do okay? I'll only be making 2 or so to try it out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 0:06:22 GMT
Those ribs look even better than the chicken thing.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 11, 2021 5:59:12 GMT
Thanks! the Yorkshire pudding tray. This is not a thing I own, but I assume something like small ceramic oven dishes should do okay? I'll only be making 2 or so to try it out. A muffin tray will also do. Yorkshires are tricky to make quite big without going too soft and gooey on the bottom, so you need something small. The recipe above (I use March Berry's but there's not much in it) will make a dozen small Yorkshires.
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Post by Lizard on Oct 11, 2021 8:29:03 GMT
Lamb shank. Was a bit average TBH. Underseasoned.
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Post by γΉγ³γγγ©γ³γ on Oct 11, 2021 11:19:43 GMT
To join in the panwankery, I bought a couple of Carbon Debuyerpans a year or so ago which aren't too heavy(although other half hates the weight), seem to be seasoned better now although I did all the repeated oven seasoning wankery at the beginning it took ages for them to be right. I also bought a nice wee 20cm non-stick (as we had crap ones before), German brand, Woll Diamond Lite which seems great, detachable handle as well , I want to get the next size up as well, can then dump the old ones.
They sent us the induction version instead of the normal one (think I just has an even thicker base), we have a normal ceramic hob so not needed but when buying the bigger pan, a combination of OCD and "you never know, might have induction at somepoint" makes me inclined to pay the extra and get the induction version of that too....
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Post by mrpon on Oct 11, 2021 11:23:33 GMT
Love the ProCooks, can't fit two on my shit hob. I'm making sure the new hob can accommodate.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Oct 11, 2021 11:25:14 GMT
I bought a set of Meyer non-stick pans in about 2001 in a Debenhams January sale which are largely still going strong. Though my now Mrs Mercury goes at them with a chisel I believe so the non-stick surface is going. The largest of the set, which she seldom uses on account as to how heavy it is when full is still in perfect condition.
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 12, 2021 19:14:06 GMT
I think my Yorkshire pudding attempt went okay. A smaller tray would likely have let it rise more but it came out quite good. I didn't really know what to have with it (research suggests "whatever you want"), so I fried up some leftover bacon and mushrooms with sunflower seeds and a carrot and tomato on the side. Maybe I've committed a sin and should brace for the wroth of Her Majesty and start running from the incoming Trident barrage, but I quite liked it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 19:16:53 GMT
That is a very odd combo to go with a Yorkshire pudding.
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Post by Danno on Oct 12, 2021 19:18:30 GMT
Why do you eat dinner on a tortilla
The yorkshire looks good
The main thing that will have our military zeroing in on your home is the lack of gravy
Wait a minute, I've been had, haven't I
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Post by skalpadda on Oct 12, 2021 19:27:53 GMT
That is a very odd combo to go with a Yorkshire pudding. In my defense I am a foreign devil. At least I didn't get any pickled herrings involved. The main thing that will have our military zeroing in on your home is the lack of gravy So this is something I saw a lot when looking it up.. Roast beef I can understand, sausages and stuff as well. Gravy with this seems really odd to me, but then I'm essentially thinking of it as a variation of our "oven pancake" which is essentially the same but with more milk making it more "pancake-y" and then we eat it (usually) with raw-stirred lingonberries, which are tart and kind of dry. Gravy seems a bit too exotic.
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Post by Danno on Oct 12, 2021 19:45:58 GMT
It does look like a really good Yorkshire, but stick onion gravy in the middle and it will change your life
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Post by H-alphaFox on Oct 12, 2021 19:49:22 GMT
I've never heard anyone describe gravy as exotic before. Makes me feel all fancy as I can drink it by the cup.
We had confit duck(store brought) with duck fat spuds. It was rich, light and loverly.
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