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Post by minimatt on Sept 5, 2024 8:36:17 GMT
trouble with that is defining what a social media platform is in law - any definition which includes Pinterest, xitter, Facebook, Instagram etc is also going to include fontgeek.io
the moment neilka becomes legally liable for whatever us deviants write here is, I'm guessing, the moment it gets shut down
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 5, 2024 8:47:54 GMT
Yeah, it's a tricky issue that existed even before Social Media as we know it. Was Geocities legally responsible if someone uploaded illegal content, etc...?
Though it occurs to me that governments have never really had much of a problem holding platforms responsible for pirate material or links to pirate material that appears on their site.
But I feel like there has to be some middle ground.
Maybe governments and industry groups could define standardized Terms of Service that platforms can sign up to, which gives them some level of immunity - as long as they stick to the defined terms and implement them in a timely fashion.
Failures to do so would result in increasingly lengthy suspensions of service.
Tricky, but again it's never stopped international governments and industry groups when it's been issues such as patents or copyrights.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 5, 2024 8:51:39 GMT
The crazy thing is that an insane billionaire buying an already established social media company and running it into the ground is the only way you could ever get a large fash site like it is now.
You couldn't grow a site like twitter is now organically from the ground up, you would have to ruin something already established where 'normal' users are almost held hostage.
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Post by tincanrocket on Sept 5, 2024 8:52:20 GMT
trouble with that is defining what a social media platform is in law - any definition which includes Pinterest, xitter, Facebook, Instagram etc is also going to include fontgeek.io the moment neilka becomes legally liable for whatever us deviants write here is, I'm guessing, the moment it gets shut down Without wishing to play down the importance of FontGeek, perhaps regulation should only kick in after a certain number of users, or something like that? Agree that you can't police or expect smaller online communities to follow such regulations, but I suspect there is more moderation on here (certainly self-moderation by the community) than there is on the likes of X. Besides, posts on this forum do not generally find their way into daily news articles (a blessing indeed, ha ha). Given the damage social media does on so many levels, both socially and individually, something needs to be done, and these companies are, in my opinion, the digital equivalent of Big Tobacco. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 5, 2024 9:08:18 GMT
I've said for years there should be a requirement for X number of human moderators per Y number of active users on social media sites. And, tbh, you can and should police smaller communities. I know all we talk about is Aliens but we could just as easily be talking about how to make [redacted] and [redacted] in [redacted].
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 5, 2024 9:17:30 GMT
/uploads Jolly Roger's Cookbook to FG
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Post by gamingdave on Sept 5, 2024 10:59:23 GMT
I've said for years there should be a requirement for X number of human moderators per Y number of active users on social media sites. And, tbh, you can and should police smaller communities. I know all we talk about is Aliens but we could just as easily be talking about how to make [redacted] and [redacted] in [redacted]. That might be hard to manage (different sites have different volumes of post per day per user, and different types of content) but there needs to be something in place that means if you don't want to be treated as a publisher you do have a robust plan to moderate content properly. I worked at Sega for a while developing both versions of the Dreamarena. We had message boards which whilst not overly busy (not many people bought the keyboard and it's a bit painful typing on a controller) were quite active. One day we came in to find a lot of unsavoury content had been posted - mainly from BNP types. There was limited automatic filtering (from memory mainly just a word list to check against) and they didn't have the resources to manually moderate content. We flagged the concerns up the chain and within an hour the decision had come back down. Turn the forums off. I'm not sure if Sega were looking to protect users (and society) or their reputation, but I suspect both. Musk I don't think cares about either. |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Sept 5, 2024 11:42:50 GMT
Re: social media moderation, I think the horse has already bolted and left the station. It's left the country, might be living on another planet at this point.
Point is, people got so used to being able to anonymously say whatever the fuck they want on the internet, got so used to the irl rules of etiquette not applying, that they're not going to moderate themselves. And the scale of internet commenting is so astronomically immense that Facebook (or whoever) could hire 10,000 more moderators and it probably wouldn't make a dent in the volume of bullshit that still seeps through - to say nothing of the poor people who have to read it. It's why they've turned to AI.
None of which is to say that they shouldn't try to clean up a bit. Nobody wants to visit a garden that's got weeds growing everywhere. But at this point I don't know that it can be fully controlled.
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Post by deez on Sept 5, 2024 11:57:02 GMT
trouble with that is defining what a social media platform is in law - any definition which includes Pinterest, xitter, Facebook, Instagram etc is also going to include fontgeek.io the moment neilka becomes legally liable for whatever us deviants write here is, I'm guessing, the moment it gets shut down Without wishing to play down the importance of FontGeek, perhaps regulation should only kick in after a certain number of users, or something like that? Agree that you can't police or expect smaller online communities to follow such regulations, but I suspect there is more moderation on here (certainly self-moderation by the community) than there is on the likes of X. Besides, posts on this forum do not generally find their way into daily news articles (a blessing indeed, ha ha). Given the damage social media does on so many levels, both socially and individually, something needs to be done, and these companies are, in my opinion, the digital equivalent of Big Tobacco. Wouldn't it be ProBoards who had the responsibility?. That would easily make it large enough, and potentially make the business inoperable if they suddenly had to moderate. |
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Post by 😎 on Sept 5, 2024 13:14:01 GMT
ProBoards does monitor here. We’ve had a couple of “don’t do that” messages from them.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 5, 2024 13:59:23 GMT
Sounds like the kind of thing any reasonable company should do.
Until Musk bought Twitter, there was at least some level of expectation that proper companies would at least give it a go.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 5, 2024 17:09:27 GMT
ProBoards does monitor here. We’ve had a couple of “don’t do that” messages from them. It was that .gif of Jennifer Connelly on the motorised horse that did it, wasn't it? |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 5, 2024 17:12:47 GMT
Mmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Post by cubby on Sept 5, 2024 17:43:12 GMT
It was when gremmi started poststing dick pics.
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Post by mrpon on Sept 5, 2024 18:49:26 GMT
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Post by Tomo on Sept 6, 2024 8:34:59 GMT
ProBoards does monitor here. We’ve had a couple of “don’t do that” messages from them. Wow. Like what?! I'm genuinely surprised. |
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 6, 2024 8:37:37 GMT
It was when gremmi started poststing dick pics. Not veiny enough? |
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Post by technoish on Sept 6, 2024 9:12:56 GMT
ProBoards does monitor here. We’ve had a couple of “don’t do that” messages from them. Wow. Like what?! I'm genuinely surprised. Yes, please share!!! |
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Post by Dougs on Sept 6, 2024 9:14:26 GMT
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Tomo
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Post by Tomo on Sept 6, 2024 9:17:06 GMT
But Dougs, that's posting images of cocks, not posting like a cock.
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Post by rftp on Sept 6, 2024 9:23:02 GMT
Fortunately.
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cubby
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Post by cubby on Sept 6, 2024 9:32:09 GMT
ProBoards does monitor here. We’ve had a couple of “don’t do that” messages from them. Wow. Like what?! I'm genuinely surprised. I just said, it's when gremmi was poststing dick pics. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 6, 2024 9:33:50 GMT
Wow. Like what?! I'm genuinely surprised. I just said, it's when gremmi was poststing dick pics. But gremmi told me not to take anything you say at face value, and to investigate it myself. So do you have a link to the pics? |
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Post by sport✅ on Sept 6, 2024 9:35:16 GMT
Just read through the Proboards TOS and came across the Objectionable Content section. (i) is particularly worrying for us.
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Post by cubby on Sept 6, 2024 9:43:14 GMT
Well that actually explains a lot.
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Post by Tomo on Sept 6, 2024 9:43:48 GMT
glol
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Post by Lizard on Sept 6, 2024 18:09:04 GMT
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. What if write a thousand words about cocks?
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Post by elstoof on Sept 6, 2024 18:40:50 GMT
There appears to be some sort of algorithm similar to google safe search that flags pictures of nudity,mode receive a warning to remove the images before escalating to an investigation. Last time was when someone posted AI tittes in an art thread then got huffy because I deleted them. but but they’re not real!
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Post by lukasz on Sept 11, 2024 7:19:22 GMT
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Sept 11, 2024 7:20:18 GMT
OWNED
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