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Post by Whizzo on Jan 4, 2024 18:42:50 GMT
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Post by technoish on Jan 4, 2024 19:19:37 GMT
There's a really good point made in there on roundabouts, and it being difficult to indicate while already turning.
Eg turning right on a round about meana entering it with the right indicator on, but then while in a right turn going round the roundabout you need to indicate left before exiting the roundabout.
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Post by Vortex on Jan 4, 2024 19:48:56 GMT
So you're saying elmo hasn't really thought things through? 😝
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Post by Nanocrystal on Jan 4, 2024 19:58:38 GMT
turning right on a round about meana entering it with the right indicator on, but then while in a right turn going round the roundabout you need to indicate left before exiting the roundabout. So few people in Australia do this, it's infuriating. The Australian way to take a roundabout seems to be (1) come to a complete stop, (2) wait until you can't see any cars anywhere, (3) proceed without signalling.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 4, 2024 20:03:12 GMT
turning right on a round about meana entering it with the right indicator on, but then while in a right turn going round the roundabout you need to indicate left before exiting the roundabout. So few people in Australia do this, it's infuriating. The Australian way to take a roundabout seems to be (1) come to a complete stop, (2) wait until you can't see any cars anywhere, (3) proceed without signalling. But you don't need to indicate left to leave the roundabout... do you? I've never seen anyone do that, unless it's one of those huge roundabouts with like 6 different exits.
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Post by nazo on Jan 4, 2024 20:04:18 GMT
Yes, yes you do.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Jan 4, 2024 20:06:56 GMT
It's the way it's taught in the UK. It helps when you're waiting to enter the roundabout as it tells you if the cars coming from your right are going to exit or not.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 4, 2024 20:09:12 GMT
I just checked the rules here, and it says "if practicable" indicate left when leaving the roundabout after a right turn. So that sounds more like a recommendation than a rule, which tracks because I don't think I've ever noticed anyone doing it lol.
Might be different in other states or countries though, of course.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 4, 2024 20:14:49 GMT
Anyway, the rule that gets broken most often at the roundabout near me is the "give way to people already in the roundabout" one. I'll be in the roundabout turning right, and have to screech to a halt to avoid the person barreling straight through on the other side, not looking, not a care in the world.
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Post by cubby on Jan 4, 2024 20:28:02 GMT
Which country you at mola?
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 4, 2024 20:51:48 GMT
Victoria, Australia
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Post by cubby on Jan 4, 2024 21:11:42 GMT
Ah, mad max country. There's a reason an Australian was the one to make movies about how violent cars are.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 4, 2024 21:18:24 GMT
It's a little known fact that some of our cars ate Paris!
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Post by technoish on Jan 4, 2024 22:37:31 GMT
In UK you are supposed to indicate for whatever the turn off is on the roundabout. It also helps signal to people waiting for you that they can enter.
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Post by Reviewer on Jan 4, 2024 22:51:42 GMT
And so many start indicating right just as they’re about to exit. What do they think they’re telling anyone with that? I’m going down this exit I’m indicating away from?
It’s annoying and the only solution is to trust no other driver in the slightest.
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Post by askew on Jan 4, 2024 22:53:51 GMT
Re: Grimes. I only discovered today who Cyrus was, in an Economist article talking about the rise of ‘apostles’ in evangelical Christians in the US. A third of them think Trump was appointed by god to be their new leader.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jan 4, 2024 23:12:54 GMT
In UK you are supposed to indicate for whatever the turn off is on the roundabout. It also helps signal to people waiting for you that they can enter. One of the first things my driving instructor taught me was never to pull out assuming someone is turning just because they're indicating, always wait for their manoeuvre. I must see someone leaving their indicator on at least once a week on the school run. As always, people are the problem. I can't wait for full automation.
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Post by cubby on Jan 4, 2024 23:20:26 GMT
Just once a week? I see one indicate left, one indicate right, another not indicate whatsoever, and they're all going the same way, pretty much every single day.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 5, 2024 7:54:01 GMT
There's one mini-roundabout near me that almost no-one turning left indicates at. Often sat there, wanting to turn right from another direction, trying to read their mind. Really grinds my gears.
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Post by Rich on Jan 5, 2024 8:12:01 GMT
Yep, it's an indication they might be changing direction. Nothing more. The worst are bloody delivery moped riders who just seem to leave one on permanently.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Jan 5, 2024 8:16:21 GMT
I'll usually flick the indicator exiting a roundabout as it's a polite thing to do but if I'm waiting I'd never trust the other driver based solely on that, I have to wait to see them start to turn.
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Post by otto on Jan 5, 2024 8:35:13 GMT
Are we doing roundabout gripes? Because people that think they have right of way approaching a roundabout because the road they're on is somehow 'more important' really boil my piss. I was at the roundabout first, so I'm not giving way to you, so I guess you're going to have to wait your turn and stop leaning on your horn you cunt.
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Post by jono62 on Jan 5, 2024 8:47:55 GMT
It's the cars that inch out on a side road so far that you have no choice but to stop and let them through that are really annoying.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 5, 2024 9:02:38 GMT
I don't. I'm, unsurprisingly, very bloody minded about that. Even if they are blocking the oncoming lane of traffic and theatrically waving their arms around, its still a cunts trick so you can wait there.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 5, 2024 9:03:05 GMT
If (i hear) Americans can't do roundabouts, and most self-driving cars seem to be developed in the US, does that mean Teslas are going to have trouble with roundabouts (and everything else)?
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 5, 2024 9:15:38 GMT
Teslas in the UK and I assume elsewhere will turn off the auto driving when approaching a roundabout, currently it's a requirement for the driver to have their hand on the wheel at all times in the UK so they then have to take over.
Roundabouts are gaining in popularity in the US but it's a slow process in a lot of places, considering how shit the auto driving on regular streets can be I'm not expecting they'll be able to handle roundabouts, which ever direction they go in, for a while.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Jan 5, 2024 9:50:29 GMT
It's the cars that inch out on a side road so far that you have no choice but to stop and let them through that are really annoying. I went to go around someone pulling that trick, early last year. As I was going around him, the guy in the lane he was trying to join flashed him and he ploughed straight into the side of me. The guy was complaining he was going to be late for work and it turned out he was driving with a telemetry box, as he was a high risk driver. If that's your situation, make sure you give yourself time for your journey, so you don't have to pull dumb ass manoeuvres.
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Post by gibroon on Jan 5, 2024 10:05:42 GMT
There are quite a few big roundabouts when I travel to work and that includes a double lane main road. It's a bit of a lottery what indicators are showing when cars are going round these roundabouts. I always indicate left when leaving them but others will still be indicating right when they leave the roundabouts so you really do have to wait for the manoeuvre before going on to the roundabout.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jan 5, 2024 10:12:38 GMT
One of my old driving instructor's students had a howler at a roundabout on her test.
Tester said "turn right at the roundabout" so as soon as the lights went green she started turning right directly into oncoming (but thankfully stationary) traffic.
Poor lass, nerves must have really gotten to her!
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Post by mrpon on Jan 5, 2024 10:15:01 GMT
Tester should've said "take the 3rd exit" etc.. bit unfair.
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