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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 17, 2023 20:19:44 GMT
Owning the libs is profit you can't even quantify.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 17, 2023 20:24:18 GMT
Selling Twitter Blue to the Taliban.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 20:34:15 GMT
Yeah I have a few football related things I follow and only check on twitter once in a while during the transfer window and the past couple of weeks I've been recommended "anti woke", "covid is hoax", "global warming isn't real" and all that shit every time I've looked at it.
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Post by Onny on Jan 18, 2023 5:31:30 GMT
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Post by patrick on Jan 18, 2023 8:21:13 GMT
How's everyone getting all sorts of toss on their timeline? Mines just stuff from people I follow.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 18, 2023 8:22:34 GMT
How's everyone getting all sorts of toss on their timeline? Mines just stuff from people I follow. So... what kind of people do you follow huh
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 18, 2023 8:42:29 GMT
The biggest change to my timeline was when they changed the mobile app to have an ad at the top every refresh, fortunately that didn't last long. Other than that no real difference other than it being obvious people have abandoned it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 18, 2023 8:46:17 GMT
I’m assuming everyone blocked the account the ad was from, which is why it ran so briefly. I would love to see the stats for that.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 18, 2023 8:48:04 GMT
Also: having just been to America for a mere two weeks, I cannot stop the stupid thing telling me the most recent NBA scores.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 18, 2023 8:50:19 GMT
It had some NFL game's score stuck in my trending for a couple of days and the last time I was in America was 2010.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Jan 18, 2023 8:52:10 GMT
Heh, first ad for me: “ Short Tesla NOW with 0% Management fee.”
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 18, 2023 8:55:08 GMT
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 18, 2023 8:56:13 GMT
I mean (stupid) people have died as a result of that, so thats not ideal.
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Post by dogbot on Jan 18, 2023 10:43:03 GMT
So, fraud then? Actual, demonstrable fraud.
Some testimony from Tesla's head of software...
Eeep.
Everything ol' Elon touches turns to shit, huh?
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 18, 2023 10:49:06 GMT
Ok, so this is the thing I don't understand about self-driving cars. If you still need a human behind the wheel, with their hands on the wheel to take over if the auto-drive fucks up, then what is the fucking point of a self-driving car? The human still has to concentrate on the road, so what value is being added here?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2023 10:53:31 GMT
I think the world has moved on from that now. It's all about setting fire to monkey brains now.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 18, 2023 10:56:47 GMT
The issue, really, is that if the autopilot decides it needs human interaction, its already too late. It only turns off autopilot so tesla can say 'none of our cars have ever crashed on autopilot'.
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Post by X201 on Jan 18, 2023 10:58:01 GMT
Ok, so this is the thing I don't understand about self-driving cars. If you still need a human behind the wheel, with their hands on the wheel to take over if the auto-drive fucks up, then what is the fucking point of a self-driving car? The human still has to concentrate on the road, so what value is being added here? It comes down to liability. If the car is 100% in control and hits someone and or something, then the software is to blame, which means the car manufacturer is liable.
That then expands to the car insurance industry, you can't charge as much for car insurance as the owner isn't a driver, so the risk has gone and all the insurance industry can really charge for is fire and theft.
The car companies end up being the ones who have to take out insurance against their software screwing up. That's a massive insurance bill if you're insuring against every car on the road in a decade or two's time.
The required human is there to basically be a patsy and take the blame instead of the car manufacturer.
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Post by geefe on Jan 18, 2023 11:15:47 GMT
In short - Tesla produced some absolute shite and now they're getting found out because their main guy is a fucking moron who won't shut up?
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 18, 2023 11:24:40 GMT
It's pretty funny at least. As long as you're not someone who has been maimed or killed by this charlatan's cars.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 18, 2023 11:25:42 GMT
Ok, so this is the thing I don't understand about self-driving cars. If you still need a human behind the wheel, with their hands on the wheel to take over if the auto-drive fucks up, then what is the fucking point of a self-driving car? The human still has to concentrate on the road, so what value is being added here? It comes down to liability. If the car is 100% in control and hits someone and or something, then the software is to blame, which means the car manufacturer is liable.
That then expands to the car insurance industry, you can't charge as much for car insurance as the owner isn't a driver, so the risk has gone and all the insurance industry can really charge for is fire and theft.
The car companies end up being the ones who have to take out insurance against their software screwing up. That's a massive insurance bill if you're insuring against every car on the road in a decade or two's time.
The required human is there to basically be a patsy and take the blame instead of the car manufacturer.
I'm aware of why the human actually needs to be there! I just think it kind of defeats the purpose of the whole thing.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 18, 2023 11:29:11 GMT
It does which is why pretty much all of these crashes involve the person having either completely circumvented it or having their hand on the wheel while sleeping.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 18, 2023 11:32:41 GMT
I would like to see truly automated traffic. Some sort of public system, like taxis.
I want my Johnny Cab.
Can't see it every really happening though. The idea of private car ownership is deeply embedded.
This is me speculating from a hugely uninformed position, but it seems a purely AI network, where the cars talk to each other, could be safer than a system that's half AI, half human controlled. That interim where AI needs to react to the unpredictability of, for example, aggressive BMW drivers is going to be messy.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Jan 18, 2023 11:33:11 GMT
I think there aren't any laws yet for automated driving, even on trains we want a human pushing down on the dead-man pedal.
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Post by dogbot on Jan 18, 2023 11:34:54 GMT
I think for that to work properly, all cars need to be computer driven. Humans just introduce uncertainty and chaos into the system and an awful lot of them are entitled, shit drivers who think they own the road and deserve to be in front of every one else, or just complete and utter idiots.
The computers won't be able to deal with their nonsensical shit.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 18, 2023 11:36:43 GMT
Oh yeah, that's a load of legislative things that would need to be worked through, insurance concerns, culpability...
If you'd asked me 5 years ago I optimistically thought it would be something I might see in my lifetime, now I think the chance of it happening is very, very slim.
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 18, 2023 11:36:46 GMT
I may have shared it before, but my vision of the transport system of the future is as follows:
Pavement in front of your house. A moving walkway to take you to the nearest significant road, with a roof to protect against the worst weather. Automated road vehicles (driverless trams) to take you to the nearest town. Automated railway system to take you between towns, using and expanding upon the existing network.
I'm not saying it's a great idea: it's just been in my thoughts for years.
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Post by dogbot on Jan 18, 2023 11:37:30 GMT
I may have shared it before, but my vision of the transport system of the future is as follows: Pavement in front of your house. A moving walkway to take you to the nearest significant road, with a roof to protect against the worst weather. Automated road vehicles (driverless trams) to take you to the nearest town. Automated railway system to take you between towns, using and expanding upon the existing network. I'm not saying it's a great idea: it's just been in my thoughts for years. Can't we just have teleporters?
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Post by X201 on Jan 18, 2023 11:38:56 GMT
I'm aware of why the human actually needs to be there! I just think it kind of defeats the purpose of the whole thing. Of course it does. But selling people something that they can't actually use properly and getting them to pay a premium for it. It's genius.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 18, 2023 11:39:14 GMT
You would think the future of cars is going to be like irobot. A fleet of self driving pods in perpetual motion, picking you up from home, dropping you at the shops, picking the next person up from the shops, dropping them at home, all driving efficiently and packed into our limited road space.
Car ownership and costs, gone.
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