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Post by wunty on Mar 9, 2023 10:41:58 GMT
What spirits are people using? Im finding all of their summons basically useless. The weapon coating is useful for countering bosses affinities, if the boss lets you actually attack it, but thats about it. I'm still using the earth one and save it for when the boss is about halfway. Then I just use it's special attack and melt the bosses posture, getting a crit and sending him on his merry way to the afterlife. |
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 10:43:35 GMT
It's special attack??? Spirits have attacks you can use?  ?? |
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 9, 2023 10:50:40 GMT
FWIW allies are good during missions and you should be using them anyway to build bond for their armour. They also supposedly get stronger at bond 5 so maybe that helps.
Haven't used one against a boss yet (well, technically the blindfolded boy, but not with a healthbar and such).
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 9, 2023 10:50:49 GMT
...they have two.
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 9, 2023 10:51:45 GMT
Speaking of the first boss, does the post-battle cutscene change if you kill him without using the Spirit or do you summon it anyway?
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 10:53:25 GMT
Wtf and what do I press to activate the spirit attacks?? I have just pressed y and b to trigger them then carry on fighting..
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 10:53:44 GMT
I skip every single cut scene. Painfully shit.
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Post by wunty on Mar 9, 2023 10:55:49 GMT
It was in a tutorial quite early on. It literally appears on screen what you have to press. Two buttons activite it's buff, and the other two activate it's special attack.
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 10:58:14 GMT
Oh well.  . Got this far without it. Next time I'm on I'll have to check out the attacks! I assume I've always just activated it's buff move. I never did the tutorial as you can tell. |
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Post by wunty on Mar 9, 2023 11:00:25 GMT
Neither did I! It was on screen at one point though. I think...
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 9, 2023 11:01:45 GMT
FWIW allies are good during missions and you should be using them anyway to build bond for their armour. They also supposedly get stronger at bond 5 so maybe that helps. They dont, really. The only reason to use them is to get the weapons and armour. I keep choosing the fire stat guy to try and get his gear and I think hes up to level seven and is still, basically, worthless. The only thing they are good for is giving enemies chi when they stand there letting enemies kick the shit out of them. I did a level where a city is on fire yesterday and the idiots spent 90% of the time ablaze because they cant avoid environmental hazards. They are honestly more trouble than they are worth. You can give them vague orders to stop them standing around with their fingers up their arses but that does get wearing. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 9, 2023 11:03:06 GMT
FWIW allies are good during missions and you should be using them anyway to build bond for their armour. They also supposedly get stronger at bond 5 so maybe that helps. They dont, really. The only reason to use them is to get the weapons and armour. I keep choosing the fire stat guy to try and get his gear and I think hes up to level seven and is still, basically, worthless. The only thing they are good for is giving enemies chi when they stand there letting enemies kick the shit out of them. I did a level where a city is on fire yesterday and the idiots spent 90% of the time ablaze because they cant avoid environmental hazards. They are honestly more trouble than they are worth. You can give them vague orders to stop them standing around with their fingers up their arses but that does get wearing. One for the patches then perhaps. |
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Post by wunty on Mar 9, 2023 11:38:00 GMT
FWIW allies are good during missions and you should be using them anyway to build bond for their armour. They also supposedly get stronger at bond 5 so maybe that helps. They dont, really. The only reason to use them is to get the weapons and armour. I keep choosing the fire stat guy to try and get his gear and I think hes up to level seven and is still, basically, worthless. The only thing they are good for is giving enemies chi when they stand there letting enemies kick the shit out of them. I did a level where a city is on fire yesterday and the idiots spent 90% of the time ablaze because they cant avoid environmental hazards. They are honestly more trouble than they are worth. You can give them vague orders to stop them standing around with their fingers up their arses but that does get wearing. Yeah this has started to be my experience. They are also cluttering everything up and in general just subtracting more than they are adding to the game. I'm going all in YOLO and solo. |
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 11:57:27 GMT
They are annoying but a good distraction in areas with multiple enemies..
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Post by JonFE on Mar 9, 2023 12:26:09 GMT
Oh well. . Got this far without it. Next time I'm on I'll have to check out the attacks! I assume I've always just activated it's buff move. I never did the tutorial as you can tell. Actually they are:
B+Y: Summon Divine Beast
X+A: Divine Beast Power Up
Fun fact, during the first boss fight, I didn't summon the beast, because I missed the NPC dialogue instructing me to...
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 12:41:22 GMT
So do I summon it then press X and a or is it one or the other?
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Post by UncleLou on Mar 9, 2023 12:43:52 GMT
So do I summon it then press X and a or is it one or the other? One or the other. You can see what each spirit does (and in both of the two "modes") in the battle preparation menu at the flags. |
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Post by JonFE on Mar 9, 2023 12:48:04 GMT
bichii2 One or the other as UncleLou says. To be honest, I don't think I've seen the Beast do actually damage to a boss (but it could be due to the whole mayhem most boss fights cause), so I mostly use the power up more...
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 12:49:46 GMT
As you can all tell from my posts I've barely looked in the menus. . Think I have random armour on that looks cool from about 4 levels ago and haven't leveled it up. I did put some lightening buffs on them though. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 9, 2023 12:53:27 GMT
Weapon buffs (flame, lightning etc) barely last long enough for my liking - any way of increasing their duration?
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 12:59:26 GMT
Weapon buffs (flame, lightning etc) barely last long enough for my liking - any way of increasing their duration? Yeah wood increases spell duration. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 9, 2023 13:14:56 GMT
And you can add duration buffs to your gear at the blacksmith. Ive got burn accumulation and effect duration on most of my gear and they fry a lot quicker and longer.
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 21:38:37 GMT
This really is so so good. I easily prefer it to the nioh games and I really liked them. Currently enjoying the fact that invaders seem to have no idea how to fight. I must be at least 10-0 now. I'm sure that will soon change and I'll be getting destroyed once everyone has fancy builds set. Just completed a main mission without a single death. That Lu bu level was an odd spike Vs the next two levels.
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 22:58:04 GMT
Finally had a invader who knew the combat. The negative was the fight lasted about 5-10 mins . I learnt when you get a parry in you can pull off one hit before they can parry you back. The trick is getting their spirit down. Helps when they do things like spells then attack you, if you get a parry or two in at that point they get stunned. |
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Post by wunty on Mar 9, 2023 23:20:26 GMT
I can’t get two steps into this level without being invaded.
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Post by wunty on Mar 9, 2023 23:31:20 GMT
That’s seven times now. I wouldn’t mind but they are all doing the thing where they try and kite you into enemies, so I just wait until they get bored enough to fight me and I kill them. Meantime hours pass. Yawn.
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 9, 2023 23:34:52 GMT
That’s seven times now. I wouldn’t mind but they are all doing the thing where they try and kite you into enemies, so I just wait until they get bored enough to fight me and I kill them. Meantime hours pass. Yawn. If only they knew!! "Do you not know I have completed all From software games sir?. So your pitiful attempt to lure me will not work this day. I am an O.G. in this field." said Wunty. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 9, 2023 23:36:27 GMT
Sounds like I did good to disable invasions before I'd even killed my first enemy then  |
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Post by wunty on Mar 9, 2023 23:53:04 GMT
Aaaargh Lu Bu was down to a bloody fraction of health on my first attempt
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Post by bichii2 on Mar 10, 2023 0:05:06 GMT
Well that's awesome. Took me ages to best him.
Is there a big difference between y/triangle attacks and martial arts??? They both make the same sound and both drain spirit.
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. Got this far without it. Next time I'm on I'll have to check out the attacks! I assume I've always just activated it's buff move. I never did the tutorial as you can tell. 
