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Post by monkman5000 on Jun 14, 2022 19:12:34 GMT
Go on then, new thread for the Niohs.
Struggling with Enenra (second level in Nioh 2). Must have had upwards of 40 goes. Good thing it's pretty fun and I feel like I'm learning how to play better.
I can reliably get his ki down to zero but this always seems to instantly trigger his dark realm switch, which as was said in the other thread seems harder. So in fact it seems I should avoid getting his ki to zero?
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Post by Danno on Jun 14, 2022 19:18:11 GMT
We didn't have one?
Maybe I'll try to get into this again, I think I have it on PSN plus it will piss monkman5000 off as I continue to procrastinate over Elden Beast
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 14, 2022 19:23:46 GMT
Nah, it’s the best way to get burst damage. The thing you absolutely have to learn is the counter. If something flashes red, it’s doing a move that can be countered and countering absolutely smashes their ki. You’ll notice every time you ki break, the meter goes down so it’s easier to do it again.
I found the phantom had the best counter but ymmv
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Post by monkman5000 on Jun 14, 2022 19:31:01 GMT
Yeah I've got the burst counter down (the red flash one), that's fairly easy to time. It's just that I feel like I'm punished for shredding his ki rather than being able to do a load of fast damage.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 14, 2022 19:37:16 GMT
Yeah I've got the burst counter down (the red flash one), that's fairly easy to time. It's just that I feel like I'm punished for shredding his ki rather than being able to do a load of fast damage. You didn't mention if you noticed it but water (appropriately) wrecks its shit. If you have any way of applying it yourself it should help break its Ki again. Alternatively, you could try to bait it into attacking the pillars around the room, dropping buckets of water on it, which should stun and damage it.
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Post by monkman5000 on Jun 14, 2022 19:44:09 GMT
Yep, doing all of that. It wrecks his ki, I move in to go nuts, and he switches straight into dark realm mode. Might have to watch a video.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 14, 2022 20:11:58 GMT
Oh, a bit late now, but one thing it doesn’t tell you is that you get skill points from just using items. If you use talismans or bomb consumables, for example, on the reg, you get magic and ninja points just for using them which you can invest in proper spells and ninja skills. Magic (with a smattering of ninjitsu) is pretty much a core part of any build. There’s no such thing as pure melee, really, because pretty much every good build is propped up with onmyo.
A couple of spells would help you out enormously here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 20:25:06 GMT
Enenra can always wreck my shit. With him I Airways settle in for a long fight and stay mobile as much as poss. If you're watering up and nailing the burst counters you're doing the right thing. Been so long since I fought him I don't have any solid advice, but you have made me reinstall the damn thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 20:27:54 GMT
Also, get a bit of onmyo going on and get you some sloth talismans. Slow the fucker down. Don't think you've fought any flying bolts yet but their soul core will give you a slow yokai attack.
Oh, get him wet but then put a lightning buff on your weapon. Extra damage on top of water and when his lightning meter fills he'll slow as well.
Slow the prick down.
Thats pretty much my go to Nioh 2 advice anyway. But I am an onmyo build.
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Post by JonFE on Jun 14, 2022 20:27:55 GMT
Forcing @wuntyate to reinstall Nioh, is like "forcing" quadfather to roll another Dark Souls character
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 20:28:26 GMT
I do like Nioh.
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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Jun 14, 2022 20:28:31 GMT
Vaguely remeber hiding behind the pillars so he wrecks them and suffers water damage. Obviously fire armour etc helps also. It's been a while....
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Post by quadfather on Jun 14, 2022 23:15:22 GMT
Forcing @wuntyate to reinstall Nioh, is like "forcing" quadfather to roll another Dark Souls character Can confirm.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 14, 2022 23:16:20 GMT
Still haven't done a pure str build
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2022 8:12:10 GMT
Really? In the game wherein the large club is the best large club that there ever was? I'm sure you rolled one and went looking for it before.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 15, 2022 9:39:24 GMT
Gave up as it didn't drop
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2022 9:42:25 GMT
Sounds familiar.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 15, 2022 9:44:53 GMT
Isnt great club a guaranteed drop?
Edit: assuming youre talking about ds3
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Post by quadfather on Jun 15, 2022 10:30:29 GMT
No, ds1 fattys in shitetown
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2022 11:12:08 GMT
The big smelly bastards.
Lovely bit of wood though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2022 11:13:08 GMT
So I've jumped back into Nioh 2 for a spell, and it's quite obvious I'd forgotten everything. Soon all kicked back in though. Forgot how lovely this looked and ran on PS5.
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Post by uiruki on Jun 15, 2022 12:29:59 GMT
Much like the best fighting games, I find Nioh is really fun and compulsive because just pressing buttons is fun. You’ve got so many powerful and tricky techniques and the whole thing is so responsive.
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Post by UncleLou on Jun 15, 2022 12:32:21 GMT
Yeah, and it never gets old how monsters just explode into a shower of loot. Everything about Nioh is just so *satisfying*.
Let's hope Wo Long is a similar kind of game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2022 12:48:48 GMT
Quite, when you're combo-ing the fuckers to death and their heads fall off and loot falls all aroundyou, it's beautiful. Until you realise all the loot is shite, but even then, you can do stuff with it, even trade it in for glory.
My biggest mistakes were playing through both nioh games with the music turned off, thinking it would be more atmospheric. I now make sure I have it on, as it's delightfully spooky at times, and just plain awesome at others.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 15, 2022 12:52:51 GMT
Theres a few QoL settings that help with loot manaagement after a loot shower. When you start hitting green (and certainly orange) gear, everything else becomes useless so you can turn it off in the pickup settings.
It does fuck with your packrat tendencies but after a point lower tiers dont even become worth selling or breaking down.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2022 12:54:05 GMT
Ha really? Fucking sweet, I didn't even know that.
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Post by monkman5000 on Jun 16, 2022 7:15:22 GMT
Woo, finally beat Enenra. Must have been comfortably over 100 attempts. Lucky it was a fun fight and a really short run to it.
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Post by UncleLou on Jun 23, 2022 6:16:26 GMT
I am in NG++ now. This is how NG+should be done, no need to replay the story, new mechanics, new loot even in NG++.
I just can’t stop playing this.
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Post by monkman5000 on Jun 23, 2022 7:35:44 GMT
I can, and I think I have. Got fed up in the next main mission after Enenra, the one where you meet the serpent women. Just doesn't feel very rewarding, unless you find 16,000 almost identical swords rewarding. Fired up Dark Souls III instead, sorry!
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 23, 2022 7:51:41 GMT
Bit late now, but lightning makes that level a lot easier. Things that throw poison are really weak to lighining and thats the poison level.
It does suck whale dick when they fall from the ceiling but if you have a lightning weapon or imbue lightning set on a skill, you can slow her down by like half or something in a few hits.
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