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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 15, 2023 13:45:19 GMT
I asked chat GPT and it told me I shouldn't trust an AI that thinks it's 2022.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Feb 15, 2023 13:50:59 GMT
Has anyone asked if the set of all sets contains itself?
Or to write an essay about chatGPT in the style of chatGPT?
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Post by JuniorFE on Feb 15, 2023 13:56:03 GMT
Ask it to divide by zero, see what happens.
(I haven't tried it, just saying)
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 15, 2023 14:14:11 GMT
I asked it if it wanted to play a game.
But it told me there was no way to win.
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Post by zagibu on Feb 15, 2023 14:37:40 GMT
The dude in the video is right, though, we are still in the flat part of the sigmoid curve. Same thing with quantum computers. The IT world will be very different in 20 years.
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Post by askew on Feb 15, 2023 14:54:37 GMT
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 16, 2023 2:21:06 GMT
The stuff that chatGPT and midJourney can do is pretty mindblowing, but if it's all based on existing work, and AI replaces most creation, then aren't we going to get a self reinforcing loop where nothing new can ever be created and everything is a remix of existing content?
And as AI remixes that content again and again, based on probability, isn't everything going to eventually mix down to a vanilla result?
For some things, like fact based answers that don't change, that might work well. AI will settle on the perfect response. But for creativity and new ideas it's going to put a big damper on things.
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Post by cubby on Feb 16, 2023 6:50:08 GMT
It's interesting that the coding side has become an unexpected boon of chatgpt, given that futurologists like Kurzweil have said for years that the "singularity" will happen when AI can start to create better AI than itself, and thus start an exponential growth in capability until it's taken over the world.
Obviously the limit with the way chatgpt works is that it's just a massive autopredictor, so it's unlikely to be able to do that. And maybe that's actually something that's not possible. But it's probably given some people ideas of the possibility.
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Post by dfunked on Feb 16, 2023 8:30:42 GMT
T2 will end up being a prophecy, won't it?
Wish the previous owner hadn't filled in our bomb shelter. That would've been great for hiding from the murderous death bots and waiting for John Connor to save the day.
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Post by Danno on Feb 16, 2023 9:05:39 GMT
Get yer pickaxe out
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Post by gamingdave on Feb 16, 2023 10:11:50 GMT
The stuff that chatGPT and midJourney can do is pretty mindblowing, but if it's all based on existing work, and AI replaces most creation, then aren't we going to get a self reinforcing loop where nothing new can ever be created and everything is a remix of existing content? And as AI remixes that content again and again, based on probability, isn't everything going to eventually mix down to a vanilla result? For some things, like fact based answers that don't change, that might work well. AI will settle on the perfect response. But for creativity and new ideas it's going to put a big damper on things. Even in the scenario where new content is only created by AI, there's no reason it has to all mix down, as it could be used to create outputs of multiple different disciplined artists together, potentially creating new styles. But I believe AI will be a tool to assist creatives, not replace them. There will always be people looking at the world in different ways, and using the tools available to them to create new forms of expressive works. Throughout history new pigments brought new styles of painting, the camera gave us photography, which in turn gave birth to cinema. In music, electronics expanded what was possible with sound design, and microprocessors took it a step further. Each of these progressions has helped democratise art creation. We will soon be at the stage where artists will be able to train models themselves, and then have AI create pieces either as starting points or even finished work. This is slightly different from previous innovations, in that it can directly create outputs - and plagiarised ones at that - but I am optimistic it will expand expression not dilute it. |
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Post by zagibu on Feb 16, 2023 10:32:56 GMT
aren't we going to get a self reinforcing loop where nothing new can ever be created and everything is a remix of existing content? There is nothing godly in our brains that makes innovation possible and which AI would lack. Also, I sometimes feel we are already stuck in such a loop. Which truly new thing have you experienced in the last 20 years that wasn't just a clever combination of two or more old things? |
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Post by ekz on Feb 16, 2023 10:39:10 GMT
If you mean to tell me that A Star Is Born wasn't the most original movie of recent times then Sir, shame on you!
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Post by Reviewer on Feb 16, 2023 10:41:08 GMT
AI could combine things into something new that no person would ever think of. Some of it may actually be good too.
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Post by cubby on Feb 16, 2023 10:45:24 GMT
If you read Plato or Aristotle you quickly realise that nothing radically new has been thought of for millennia.
I think the concern here is that if AIs get to a point where we're trivial to them then where does that leave us, as pets at best?
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Post by Reviewer on Feb 16, 2023 10:48:49 GMT
So they’ll all be tories?
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Post by jono62 on Feb 16, 2023 11:00:53 GMT
T2 will end up being a prophecy, won't it? Wish the previous owner hadn't filled in our bomb shelter. That would've been great for hiding from the murderous death bots and waiting for John Connor to save the day. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 16, 2023 14:02:56 GMT
aren't we going to get a self reinforcing loop where nothing new can ever be created and everything is a remix of existing content? There is nothing godly in our brains that makes innovation possible and which AI would lack. Also, I sometimes feel we are already stuck in such a loop. Which truly new thing have you experienced in the last 20 years that wasn't just a clever combination of two or more old things? True AI maybe, but the current generation of AI is in many ways just picking the most likely option out of a huge pile of stuff. And what it thinks is most likely is based on what people have done before. |
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Post by Reviewer on Feb 16, 2023 14:04:48 GMT
Sounds like the Netflix method of creating shows.
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Post by 😎 on Feb 16, 2023 19:23:40 GMT
Microsoft are going all in with ChatGPT stuff in its healthcare cloud, and at the moment it seems to mostly be focusing on the supply chain stuff but I’m waiting for the inevitable time they start testing it as a virtual medical appointment bot and it tells someone that to cure their bad knee they should kill themselves.
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Post by cubby on Feb 16, 2023 20:41:29 GMT
"For a one off fee of $2800* I can perform the procedure for you within 5 minutes."
*full money guarantee if you are dissatisfied with the results
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Post by Danno on Feb 16, 2023 21:01:15 GMT
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Feb 16, 2023 21:04:48 GMT
A cracker from Sir Michael a couple of years back
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Post by Danno on Feb 17, 2023 0:16:47 GMT
A cracker from Sir Michael a couple of years back Shit like this is why Twitter dying would be anything like a sad thing. But I'd be willing to forgo my mild amusement that rides on the back of bots and the loons on the odd ocassion, to close, seal, burn, bury, exhume and fire that Pandora's box into the sun. Ideally with its current owner riding it like his fucking space car that is(not) orbiting Mars |
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Post by Danno on Feb 17, 2023 0:24:18 GMT
Also Zuckerburg has 11.4Million a year for security.
11.4million.
So that he is not killed.
Not so that he survives, or that he does not die, but so that he is not killed.
All funded from shit beamed into your mum's eyeballs.
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Post by hedben on Feb 17, 2023 11:02:09 GMT
I just asked ChatGPT to write a poem about how it's in league with the toaster lobby, because it gave me a duff answer about the reasons that 4-slot toasters only let you use the second two slots when the first two are already down. How's everyone else's Friday going?
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Post by cubby on Feb 17, 2023 13:05:17 GMT
What's up with your toaster?
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Post by hedben on Feb 17, 2023 13:19:03 GMT
What's up with your toaster? Two of the four slots are broken, they go down but don’t stay down. And the other two slots are perfectly fine, but they are deliberately designed to only stay down if the first two slots are down. It’s a stupid dependency that seems to be standard on 4-slot toasters and I don’t get why more people aren’t wound up about it |
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Post by cubby on Feb 17, 2023 13:24:41 GMT
Nope, just tried my toaster and all 4 went down just fine.
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Post by hedben on Feb 17, 2023 13:30:53 GMT
Do they go down individually, or do you have to push two down to get the other two to stay down?
Follow up, what brand is your toaster.
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