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Post by cubby on Aug 24, 2022 21:20:40 GMT
I just discovered this thing called a credit card where you can buy stuff for free with it, so I just did that with the steam deck. So if I don't like it I can sell it and be up £500+
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 21:22:07 GMT
when the creditors come knocking, make sure you offer them some tea
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Post by cubby on Aug 24, 2022 21:27:22 GMT
The what?
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Post by KD on Aug 24, 2022 22:57:30 GMT
You get an exclusive steam profile portrait frame, how can you not buy it.
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Post by cubby on Aug 25, 2022 6:58:42 GMT
It was mainly the exclusive virtual keyboard theme that made me go for the extra £110.
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Post by uiruki on Aug 25, 2022 7:43:51 GMT
The case is slightly nicer too!
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Post by dfunked on Aug 25, 2022 7:54:29 GMT
Tick tock, cubby.
Tick tock.
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Post by dndhm on Aug 25, 2022 8:25:05 GMT
Does the exclusive virtual keyboard theme allow the virtual keyboard to successfully register more than one key press per second?
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Post by dominalien on Aug 25, 2022 10:01:54 GMT
Yeah, just read that you get 46GB of available space, and shader caches can burn thorugh it quickly... and won't even install to external memory. Sounds like a bit of a problem right now. Could still be useful as a retro portable machine, since I don't think old games create big shader caches. Though at that point, maybe an Aya Neo Air Plus would be enough (the Mendocino APU should be absolutely terrible for recent games, but might be enough for old stuff). I did some quick checking on my 512 deck, and with 20+ games installed (some to internal memory some to SD card) by extrapolation it would look like this on a 64g machine:
64GB would be reported as 59,6GB, subtract from that almost 11GB for the system partitions (there are two 5GB partitions where the actual system is, presumably used alternately on updates so you get a functioning system even if something goes wrong), which would leave just under 49gb for the steam and games partition. It looks like around 1.5% of that is reserved for fs use, so that leaves you with a bit over 48GB.
I now have some 1.3GB shaders cache and Steam created a 1.1GB swap file and it looks like Steam itself takes around 5GB (it seems a bit much, but is a safe bet).
So that leaves 40GB for games and Proton versions. Steam tells me recent Proton versions like 7 or Experimental are around 1GB each, so if you installed games exclusively to an SD card that would let you install some 40 different Proton versions, which you probably wouldn't do.
Of course, you also need space for whatever files the games create, including save games. Scratch that, game files and saves are kept on the SD card.
So it's all not terrible, not great.
I think Valve should offload as much as it can to the SD card, like splitting shader caches per-game (if they don't already do that) and keeping them and saves together with the game. Scratch that, as above. Shader cache is kept on the internal drive, probably for performance reasons, and the 1-2GB it'll take is not a very big deal.
As for Proton versions, these are used by multiple games, so if the SD card is removed Proton would disappear and would need to be redownloaded to internal storage to run any game installed there anyway. They could also do something about the Proton size itself.
All my hard work here could be invalidated in around 5 seconds by someone with a 64GB Deck taking a look at how much free space they have before installing anything...
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Post by imamazed on Aug 25, 2022 10:33:45 GMT
Yeah, just read that you get 46GB of available space, and shader caches can burn thorugh it quickly... and won't even install to external memory. Sounds like a bit of a problem right now. Could still be useful as a retro portable machine, since I don't think old games create big shader caches. Though at that point, maybe an Aya Neo Air Plus would be enough (the Mendocino APU should be absolutely terrible for recent games, but might be enough for old stuff).
All my hard work here could be invalidated in around 5 seconds by someone with a 64GB Deck taking a look at how much free space they have before installing anything...
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Post by cubby on Aug 25, 2022 12:05:38 GMT
There should be 5 people here who ordered the 64gb, if that survey is accurate.
But knowing our luck it was ecosse, lexw, RyanDS, rodimusprime, and ecosse.
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Post by cubby on Aug 25, 2022 12:23:47 GMT
Tick tock, cubby. Tick tock. I did it already! Now I'm impatiently checking my emails for updates in between adding games to my library. |
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Post by emperorzaphod on Aug 25, 2022 12:50:16 GMT
You can move the shader cache to your SD card in desktop mode in the file manager and then create a symbolic link to the original folder. I’ve got a 64gb and all the shader cache stuff was really starting to piss me off. I think there’s also a setting in steam that disables the precaching of the shaders and just does it on the fly.
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Post by dominalien on Aug 25, 2022 13:30:58 GMT
There you go, then.
Moving the cache is not something a regular user would be expected to do, though, so still an area Valve may improve.
As for disabling it completely, that’s just the road to stutterland, isn’t it?
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Post by idgaf on Aug 25, 2022 13:56:30 GMT
I cancelled my 512 order and went for a 256. I had only ordered the 512 because I was worried about shaders and non-game files and I wasn't going to open the deck up to put a new SSD in.
However, I wondered if it was sensible to put the money into an SSD when we don't know how long the lifespan of the machine will be /when a replacement will come out.
I thought putting the saved cash into an SD card would make more sense. I can use that card elsewhere. Plus I was always going to use a screen protector, so the anti-glare would have been wasted.
I also only have 61 Steam games, so I don't have thousands of titles to put onto it.
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Post by cubby on Aug 25, 2022 18:45:42 GMT
Why am I so tempted to flip it, and then get a 256gb instead?
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Post by 😎 on Aug 25, 2022 19:27:12 GMT
If it helps, the 512’s anti glare screen is better than the 256/64.
And you get a nicer case
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Post by cubby on Aug 25, 2022 21:17:23 GMT
Ah it's done now, I've got to have something to play monkey island on.
Am I going mad or is it really confusing trying to work out which hitman bundle is the one with everything?
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Post by roastinglbs on Aug 25, 2022 21:17:34 GMT
My 512 keep crashing, corrupted a 5 hour dark souls 2 save , heartbroken
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Post by idgaf on Aug 26, 2022 16:19:09 GMT
Has anyone been able to stream Gamepass Ultimte PC games on their Deck? I believe the Xbox games are availble to stream, but maybe not the PC titles.
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Post by neilch on Aug 26, 2022 16:22:25 GMT
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Post by dfunked on Aug 26, 2022 16:25:18 GMT
I think you'd need to look into booting Windows separately for the PC versions unless I'm mistaken. Pretty sure you can only stream the Xbox versions.
Tried the above Edge thing for streaming Xbox games and it worked flawlessly.
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Post by idgaf on Aug 27, 2022 0:46:28 GMT
Unfortunately neilch, I think dfunked is right. From what I can glean by asking people, the Xbox versions of games are the only ones that you can stream. It gets a bit confusing if a game is on both Xbox and PC game pass, because people may think they are streaming the PC version but actually they are being served the Xbox version.
One chap I asked went into his game settings on the Deck and didn't have the range of PC settings that he would have expected, which pointed to it being an Xbox version of Halo.
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Post by malek86 on Aug 27, 2022 11:04:23 GMT
Yeah, as far as I know, the Xbox Cloud servers are all running on Series S versions. So you are not going to get, for example, AOE4.
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Post by cubby on Aug 30, 2022 6:56:26 GMT
Oh ffs, why are they using Evri for delivery?? Do they not know my local guy hangs out at the burger van all day?
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Post by dndhm on Aug 30, 2022 7:57:28 GMT
Oh ffs, why are they using Evri for delivery?? Do they not know my local guy hangs out at the burger van all day? You can collect your Steam Deck and a burger in one convenient trip! |
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Post by cubby on Aug 30, 2022 12:34:20 GMT
Had a different guy who got his young topless helper to deliver it. No burger for me, other than the beefcake display I got.
It feels nice doesn't it? They need to make the hori split pad pro that shape for the switch.
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Post by dndhm on Aug 30, 2022 13:59:21 GMT
I think it would be weird for a controller to be in the shape of a shirtless man, but I am glad you enjoy the way it feels.
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Post by KD on Aug 30, 2022 14:23:01 GMT
Starting to look at videos about getting more storage, may bump my 256gb up if I can find a decent 1tb nvme. Anyone here done it yet?
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Post by dominalien on Aug 30, 2022 14:43:14 GMT
Seriously, just put in an SD card. There’s a perf difference I’m sure but it’s really imperceptible.
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