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Post by geefe on Sept 18, 2023 16:44:39 GMT
Ooft, rent a roof. What's the legal mumbo jumbo on that?
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Post by Psiloc on Sept 18, 2023 16:49:14 GMT
Yeah I know. We rent our roof to the solar people and they have a 25 year lease.
And we don't get anything for exporting
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Post by geefe on Sept 18, 2023 16:50:22 GMT
You're not planning to move in the next quarter century are you?
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Post by Psiloc on Sept 18, 2023 16:53:18 GMT
Ha, no actually. But as it happens we bought the house with the panels and just took on the lease and nobody gave a shit. It’s nearly already half way through the 25 years anyway
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Post by rajin on Sept 18, 2023 22:14:09 GMT
My parents have two 120 watt samsung TV's on photo mode 10 hours a day and every time I see it drives me insane. 2.4kw absolutely wasted every day. I have tried to tell them that its 800 kw a year (amounts to 250 euro). My dad tested how much he is wasting with switches, idle machines and a coffee machine with a 15 liter reservoir on for straight 15 hours a day. Apperently its a staggering 2400 kwh waste. More then my entire use in a year.
I barely use electricity outside of my PS5 and OLED TV (combined 250). I realized PC's are the realy energy vampires often using a combined 400-500 watt a hour if you include a monitor (let alone when you push it to 800 a hour to play Cyberpunk).
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Post by zagibu on Sept 20, 2023 8:41:19 GMT
Yeah a modern gaming PC system pumping out a decent number of 4k frames is going to draw 0.5 - 1 kW. It's basically an electric heater with some computing built in.
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Post by mrpon on Sept 21, 2023 12:20:39 GMT
Interest rates held, thank fuck!
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Post by cubby on Sept 21, 2023 12:24:17 GMT
ohthankyousireyouremostgenerous
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Post by geefe on Sept 21, 2023 12:25:38 GMT
What kind masters we have
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Post by quadfather on Sept 22, 2023 11:54:50 GMT
Octopus emailed me saying my electricity payments are going down as of next month. I'm going to be on £138 a month now. That's a bit better than 260 from last year
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Post by rajin on Sept 22, 2023 12:22:53 GMT
What is the general price per kwh and m3 gas in the UK? I just read that the house of representatives in The Netherlands wants a further increase of 19%, bringing the cost of gas to 70 cents per m3 in taxes (let alone current market rates). A Kwh is around 35-40 cents at the moment while a m3 is between 1.30-1.50 depending on the contract.
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Post by minimatt on Sept 22, 2023 13:12:37 GMT
don't have gas here but looking at bills from my mum's place (UK) last year (she was having trouble getting/understanding the government support) and they were a bit all over the place: 7.01 pence p/kWh up to september 2022 14.06 pence p/kWh from october 2022, minus 4.22p government support bringing down to 9.84 pence p/kWh conversion from m3 to kWh on that was: volume in m3 * 1.02264 (pressure & temp correction) * 38 (calorific value) / 3.6 (convert from joules) from which I think I can very roughly say 1m3 = 10kWh (double check that tho)
edit: on top of that was a standing charge of 25.9p per day and tax of 5%
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Post by dfunked on Sept 22, 2023 13:46:31 GMT
My last bill worked out at 49p per cubic meter, but that's at an average tracker rate of 4.44p/kWh.
Current variable rate that most people would be on is 8p/kWh (dropping to 7 next month), so that'd be around 88p per cubic meter.
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 22, 2023 13:47:29 GMT
On octopus tracker gas today is 4.97p/kWh, electricity is 18.65p.
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Post by rajin on Sept 22, 2023 13:55:48 GMT
don't have gas here but looking at bills from my mum's place (UK) last year (she was having trouble getting/understanding the government support) and they were a bit all over the place: 7.01 pence p/kWh up to september 2022 14.06 pence p/kWh from october 2022, minus 4.22p government support bringing down to 9.84 pence p/kWh conversion from m3 to kWh on that was: volume in m3 * 1.02264 (pressure & temp correction) * 38 (calorific value) / 3.6 (convert from joules) from which I think I can very roughly say 1m3 = 10kWh (double check that tho)
edit: on top of that was a standing charge of 25.9p per day and tax of 5%
That is... much lower then my new contract in 2024.
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Post by minimatt on Sept 22, 2023 15:21:48 GMT
That is... much lower then my new contract in 2024. yeah, and from dfunked & reviewer above it seems that price has gone down a bit since
guess it's hard to take account of all other variables when comparing countries though - i've frequently got the impression energy prices are lower in the rest of europe (tho france/germany/ireland are more commonly used as comparators than the Netherlands) and I guess average wage and overall housing costs are also likely different (both metrics which I suspect don't do the UK any favours)
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Post by stuz359 on Sept 22, 2023 21:04:24 GMT
Getting a mortgage is a bit of a sick joke right now.
Getting interest from a job that might almost double my pay got me thinking I might finally buy somewhere.
Nothing extravagant, 2 bed flat somewhere, £80k in that range.
Current interest rates mean I would be paying something like £430 in interest alone a month in repayments. So £690 a month and two thirds in interest.
It's just sick really. Can't remember who said it but it sums it up nicely, 'Interest rate rises are UBI for the already rich.'
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 22, 2023 22:12:04 GMT
Where are you that they have flats for 80k?
Cheapest around here are circa 200k.
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Post by anthonyuk on Sept 22, 2023 22:51:36 GMT
North Manchester you can get a 1-2 bed for 80k, places like Bury you could even get a 2 bed house for £120k.
South Manchester despite offering little, can be 3 or 4 times the price.
I don't envy anyone trying to get on the ladder right now. I bought my first house 5 years ago in North Manchester and it's effectively doubled in value in that time.
I'm just glad 5 years ago we settled on "small and comfortable" rather than dream house at the top end of our budget, we'd have been utterly fucked.
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Post by geefe on Sept 23, 2023 7:05:44 GMT
The difference between north and south Manchester is hilarious. It's possibly because most of it is shit, so the actual "nice" bits cost a fortune by comparison.
Even Prestwich and other places cost a load. Ridiculous.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Sept 23, 2023 7:13:28 GMT
Heating on this morning. I guess it's cold enough.
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Post by technoish on Sept 23, 2023 7:23:27 GMT
Same here, I programmed it on last night as it was already 16 degrees in my daughter's bedroom when I went to bed and the outside temp was dropping down to 9 degrees.
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Post by richardiox on Sept 23, 2023 7:32:14 GMT
It's not happening at ours due to my arbitrary October Mandate.
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 23, 2023 7:34:45 GMT
Put ours on for half an hour to make sure it’s all working as it should before actual cold weather gets here. Must be almost 6 months since it had to do anything.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 23, 2023 8:07:30 GMT
Mine is probably due a bleed and pressure top up and test before it needs to be actually used. I just can't bring myself to do it yet though as it's like I'm admitting defeat. Still comfortable in a light hoody in the evenings here.
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Post by jimnastics on Sept 23, 2023 9:19:06 GMT
Panicking when our 18p elec / 4p gas fixed rate contract ended in June this year (thankfully we got on the Octopus tracker in July) has definitely got me far more tuned in to our house energy usage. We have an Evohome heating system which is awesome with its zone control, but I'm definitely guilty of indulging in things like heating my home office for the whole day in autumn/winter... time to tighten the schedule and get my slippers out.
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Post by geefe on Sept 23, 2023 9:45:35 GMT
Just put layers on.
A friend of mine lives in an 1800s farm house that had no central heating due to being listed or some shit. They make do.
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Post by Nitrous on Sept 23, 2023 10:17:39 GMT
Mine is probably due a bleed and pressure top up and test before it needs to be actually used. I just can't bring myself to do it yet though as it's like I'm admitting defeat. Still comfortable in a light hoody in the evenings here. Thanks for the reminder. My wife got up for work yesterday and today and on both occasions said "it's cold" so I told her "we are still in September wait till next weekend" I think everyone knows this already but on a combi boiler make sure to top up the pressure first to around 1.5 bar so the system can push the air out of the rads and start with the downstairs radiators furthest away from the boiler and then repeat the pattern upstairs. Top up as necessary.
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Post by dogbot on Sept 23, 2023 10:30:06 GMT
The difference between north and south Manchester is hilarious. It's possibly because most of it is shit, so the actual "nice" bits cost a fortune by comparison. Even Prestwich and other places cost a load. Ridiculous. Yeah. Who'd want to live in Bramhall when you can live in Crumpsall. 😁
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Post by technoish on Sept 23, 2023 10:51:24 GMT
I prefer to lower the temp on the boiler and have it on for longer. I think it's more efficient and feels much more comfortable to have that kind of slow heat for longer than quick blasts and leaving it cold the rest. For my old brick house, it means the fabric of the house stays warm.
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