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Post by steifybobbins on Jan 21, 2022 9:56:18 GMT
So I own a Switch and a Series S, I really love both but I have this weird problem. The Series S is sat there with GAMEPASS and a ton of amazing games yet I hardly use it. GAMEPASS Is awesome, the choice is awesome but almost every time I start a GAMEPASS game I can't stop wondering if there's something else on there I'd enjoy more with the end result being I rarely play anything properly. Lately it's even putting me off turning it on afraid I'll waste my free time browsing endlessly. Meanwhile I buy games for Switch and that investment encourages me to engage with those games and see them through. The same thing happened years ago when I got a flash card for the DS. I Loved the DS with its breadth of software from JRPG'S to visual novels and everything in between. My love for it lasted a month after the pre loaded flash card. Does this happen to anyone else? Do you have strategies to stop you from wiffling off to game after game? I'd like to save myself some money and get the most out of GAMEPASS but apparently I'm currently not capable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 9:59:10 GMT
A combination of choice paralysis and the lack of attachment to something I don't technically "own" is what does it for me. I renenewed gamepass last month and once again never use it. It's exactly the same with movies and music.
Even when I do buy a game. The more I spend on it is the more I seem to play it. Cheapy games I grab in the sales, even when it's one I want, don't often get more than a cursory hour or so before I move on.
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Post by dominalien on Jan 21, 2022 10:04:23 GMT
The poll seems to be for a different thread?
And yes, I only play stuff I've financially invested in. Gamepass and the like is not for me.
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Post by steifybobbins on Jan 21, 2022 10:08:10 GMT
A combination of choice paralysis and the lack of attachment to something I don't technically "own" is what does it for me. I renenewed gamepass last month and once again never use it. It's exactly the same with movies and music. Even when I do buy a game. The more I spend on it is the more I seem to play it. Cheapy games I grab in the sales, even when it's one I want, don't often get more than a cursory hour or so before I move on. This is exactly what I'm talking about and I'm glad it's not just me. The more I spend on something the more likely I am to spend time with it. I Look at GAMEPASS and there's plenty that interests me but it's rare anything sticks. The recent Halo lasted less than an hour. Forza and a Plague Tale are the only exceptions in 10 months. I can't help but wonder if it devalues games or if I'm just old and in the middle of a period of adjustment too
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Post by suicida on Jan 21, 2022 10:11:28 GMT
I don't use any subscription services for this exact reason. If I want to watch/listen/play something I go out and buy it. subscription services are not for me I have realised.
A common complaint from people I know who have Netflix is that they spend more time browsing than they do watching stuff
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Post by dominalien on Jan 21, 2022 10:13:48 GMT
I'm fine with Netflix, I watch a lot. But games are a much more serious time investment and I only choose the ones that appeal the most. Which are the ones I've bought.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 10:14:20 GMT
steifybobbinsI do think it devalues games as it happens. Streaming and subsciptions services devalue all the content in my opinion. I hate it. I just don't give a fuck any more about films, games, music. That's why i started buying vinyl, why i still buy a film I like on blu-ray, and make sure to spend as much to full price as I can afford when it's a game I really want. I want to value the stuff that I'm consuming.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 21, 2022 10:16:04 GMT
In my experience, I value games more if I've actually paid for them.
It's why I never ever ever buy something just because it's on sale. I have things that I want, and I will get them on sale if possible. But buying something just because it's cheap is a good way to ensure that I'll probably never play it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 21, 2022 10:22:44 GMT
It doesnt devalue games, it increases the value of your time. When I finish a game pass game, I choose a new one from the 'recently added' tab. If it doesnt grab me, I dont feel bad about binning it. If it does grab me, I play it to completion.
Like spotify, it diversifies choice and allows you to try things you wouldnt normally buy. I would *never* have bought something like The Gunk but I loved it and completed it pretty comprehensively. When I just had the PS4, I just bought things I knew I would like, so I only really played soulslikes. Now I play and enjoy all sorts of shit. You dont have to own something to give it value, you boomer fucks.
(Nobody Saves The World is excellent, btw).
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Post by steifybobbins on Jan 21, 2022 10:28:12 GMT
It doesnt devalue games, it increases the value of your time. When I finish a game pass game, I choose a new one from the 'recently added' tab. If it doesnt grab me, I dont feel bad about binning it. If it does grab me, I play it to completion. Like spotify, it diversifies choice and allows you to try things you wouldnt normally buy. I would *never* have bought something like The Gunk but I loved it and completed it pretty comprehensively. When I just had the PS4, I just bought things I knew I would like, so I only really played soulslikes. Now I play and enjoy all sorts of shit. You dont have to own something to give it value, you boomer fucks. (Nobody Saves The World is excellent, btw). I don't disagree with this at all. The cost value thing isn't even a conscious thing, it just happens. I'd love my brain to approach gamepass as yours does but it simply doesn't.
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Post by dfunked on Jan 21, 2022 10:29:17 GMT
Yeah, it's definitely a positive imo. If I'm not enjoying myself even halfway through the game I have no qualms about just ditching it. I still do that with games I've paid for, but probably stick with them longer than I really need to. There are far too many good games out there to waste your time playing something that's not clicking with you.
Then you've got stuff like Yakuza LAD that I'll happily pile ridiculous hours into as I'm genuinely enjoying it.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 21, 2022 10:32:37 GMT
I don't disagree with this at all. The cost value thing isn't even a conscious thing, it just happens. I'd love my brain to approach gamepass as yours does but it simply doesn't. I will admit that I do just choose from the handful of 'recently added' games because I did initially get Netflix Choice Paralysis. When you have access to all the games, you just doomscroll on twitter rather than make a choice. Picking from like 10 is a bit less like hard work.
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Post by steifybobbins on Jan 21, 2022 10:34:24 GMT
steifybobbinsI do think it devalues games as it happens. Streaming and subsciptions services devalue all the content in my opinion. I hate it. I just don't give a fuck any more about films, games, music. That's why i started buying vinyl, why i still buy a film I like on blu-ray, and make sure to spend as much to full price as I can afford when it's a game I really want. I want to value the stuff that I'm consuming. I've started buying Vinyl versions of my all time favourites and actual books with pages and everything of my favourite novels after embracing digital for the last 2-3 years. People are funny things and I do wonder if all of this is connected, subscription services included. It will be interesting to see if the inevitable all digital future looks how we imagine it. If I'm going "backwards" after being happy to jump in there must be others.
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Post by dfunked on Jan 21, 2022 10:34:31 GMT
I just add everything I fancy to the play next list and dip into that whenever I'm looking for a game. Probably needs a bit of a tidy at this point though!
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Post by KD on Jan 21, 2022 10:45:30 GMT
No issues at all, the money I save goes on things that don't appear on game pass, last 3 games I bought are not big money earners, (Chivalry 2, GOTG and Circuit Superstars) would have been spent on Flight Sim, Forza Horizon and Halo instead and lined Microsoft pockets.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 10:51:42 GMT
You dont have to own something to give it value, you boomer fucks. That is true and will be true of a lot of people but it works the other way for me. I only feel that I own something if I've made a conscious and deliberate decision to buy that specific thing. Spending money on a subscription is not spending money on one specific game / film / album, therefore psychologically I do not feel as though I have a strong attachment to it and therefore no compulsion to play it through, regardless of how good it may be. With respect to the valuation of time, that same sense of ownership doesn't force me through something I don't enjoy, but I am more likely to give it a proper try before I bin it off.
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Post by unrealkilla on Jan 21, 2022 11:00:55 GMT
I was hoping this was going to be a thread asking if people wipe their bums certain ways and shaming those who do it different :/
Oh well. Nah, if the game is good I'll finish it eventually, Game Pass or not. Gears 5 I finished recently.
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Post by dfunked on Jan 21, 2022 11:02:31 GMT
Back to front standing up obvs
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Post by snackplissken on Jan 21, 2022 11:03:43 GMT
Just got to get into the mindset that all these games aren't suddenly going to disappear. You pick one and sit down and enjoy it. If you end up 5 hours in not enjoying it, then bin it. Move onto the next.
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Post by malek86 on Jan 21, 2022 12:46:15 GMT
Sunk cost fallacy: the thread.
That said, choice paralysis is indeed a thing. But it's got less to do with the fact that I haven't paid for the games, and more with the simple fact that there's too many of them. But as long as you can settle on one, it's fine.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 21, 2022 13:12:10 GMT
I guess you could say that as my Steam library has increased, the amount of times I actually start up a game has decreased.
Trying a one month trial of Gamepass had the opposite effect.. it pushed me to try loads of games because I knew they'd be gone soon, and try and finish them. The problem was that it felt like pressure to get things done rather than fun.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 21, 2022 13:15:44 GMT
A combination of choice paralysis and the lack of attachment to something I don't technically "own" is what does it for me. I renenewed gamepass last month and once again never use it. It's exactly the same with movies and music. Even when I do buy a game. The more I spend on it is the more I seem to play it. Cheapy games I grab in the sales, even when it's one I want, don't often get more than a cursory hour or so before I move on. I know this has been quoted already but it really rings true for me too.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 21, 2022 13:18:09 GMT
Just got to get into the mindset that all these games aren't suddenly going to disappear. You pick one and sit down and enjoy it. If you end up 5 hours in not enjoying it, then bin it. Move onto the next. Except they sometimes will disappear, from gamepass at least. There have been at handful of games I've not played because I wasn't in the mood, for very arbitrary reasons. "it's not going to go anywhere". Then when I came to play it, it had gone.
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Post by Cappy on Jan 21, 2022 13:18:26 GMT
This is hardly something new. Maybe we'll call it ROM Fatigue.
Wow! Every SNES game! Right here! All these games waiting to be played... Er... Soon. Any day now.
/Long years pass. They were never played.
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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Jan 21, 2022 13:37:02 GMT
I've had Gamepass more or less from the beginning but the only games I've completed are Gears 5 and Outriders yet I bought and completed 20 games last year. It just seems if it's "free" I have little interest in continuing it. Maybe due to the fact , back in the day I had a CD burner and a "chipped" PS1 and had every game going and completed next to none. It totally ruined gaming for me at the time. I'm more than happy paying full price on release day for a disk, knowing it will be completed. Not a fan of downloads at all unless extremely cheap in a sale.
Yes I'm old.....
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Post by Danno on Jan 21, 2022 15:44:42 GMT
I must have grabbed 90% of the freebies from PS+ since it started and I've played Ground Zeroes, Journey and Second Son Infamous (which I hated in general but did like the power combo mwchanics so I persevered). The others are either played for 15minutes and deleted or never got installed in the first place.
So I've passed on Gamepass.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 21, 2022 15:50:34 GMT
Fortunately Nintendo are tight cunts so I cherish everything I'm rinsed for. Thanks Nintendo!
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Post by steifybobbins on Jan 21, 2022 16:08:30 GMT
Fortunately Nintendo are tight cunts so I cherish everything I'm rinsed for. Thanks Nintendo! Ha, me too. It is interesting though that there are a lot of people who like me can walk right by a really great game if it's not bought and paid for with hard earned cash.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 21, 2022 16:36:33 GMT
I think, for me at least, it's also that I'm very impatient and don't give a game much time to "grab" me.
So if I try something on gamepass, for free, if it doesn't have much immediacy I might not return.
Whereas if I'd paid for it, I'd probably force myself to play a bit longer to justify the expense. During which time I might actually enjoy it.
Sometimes it can be something other than the financial investment dragging me through. But yeah, so many games have drawn out introductions I can be easily lost.
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Post by rawshark on Jan 21, 2022 16:56:51 GMT
I struggle to find the time and energy for games I actually buy with my hard earned money. I think Metal Gear Solid 5 is still in its wrapper.
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