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Post by askew on Jul 3, 2024 20:26:14 GMT
These newspapers call for Biden to drop out, but not impeached and criminally-convicted Trump. What gives?
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Post by Danno on Jul 3, 2024 23:17:21 GMT
These newspapers call for Biden to drop out, but not impeached and criminally-convicted Trump. What gives? $ Trump is fucking mental as well. It's clicks.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jul 3, 2024 23:37:32 GMT
The newspapers can't affect what Trump does, but they can potentially affect what Biden does. They're calling for him to drop out to make beating Trump easier.
But the problem, as ever, is who the fuck you replace him with. Plenty of options seem great right now, but it really is one those "grass is always greener on the other side" kinds of things. The minute another candidate gets the spotlight, all the dirty laundry about them will come out.
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Post by Ulythium on Jul 3, 2024 23:44:30 GMT
Better make it Harris, then - she must've been vetted thoroughly before being named as Biden's running mate in 2016.
Anyone who hasn't yet faced that level of scrutiny may be too much of an unknown quantity.
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Post by apollo on Jul 8, 2024 13:52:14 GMT
More senior Democrats privately say Biden should step aside
I think they are right but old people will dig their heels to be really stubborn
there is whole host of people that would be better to take over. Biden did a good job of fixing a lot of things trump shat the bed on but its time to retire
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jul 8, 2024 15:20:57 GMT
It would be real nice if Mr Natural Causes took both Trump and Biden out of the picture.
Edit: It doesn't have to be fatal.
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Post by grey_matters on Jul 8, 2024 15:53:34 GMT
It would be real nice if Mr Natural Causes took both Trump and Biden out of the picture. Edit: It doesn't have to be fatal. Narrator (commenting on some future Weekend-at-Bernies esque lunacy): It had to be more than fatal.
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Post by Bill the kidding on Jul 9, 2024 1:19:08 GMT
Biden would be fine as President, he's done a reasonable job (mostly). But now everyone's talking about whether he's fit, it's a losing battle because the more he insists he is, the more people will think about it. It's all a bit The Republicans must be loving it. That said, even though the US economy is outperforming most other developed countries, I can see how Inflation and Cost of Living are gonna hurt him like they hurt the Tories. www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx002795738o
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jul 9, 2024 10:28:15 GMT
Can Trump still serve 2 terms in a row or is it a 2 term limit in total?
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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 9, 2024 10:57:52 GMT
Can Trump still serve 2 terms in a row or is it a 2 term limit in total? Two terms total. Although, if he gets in now... Maybe, as an official act endorsed by SCROTUS, we don't worry about the two term total? Or having elections anymore? We killed and/or jailed all our political rivals anyway (officially), so... (Hopefully this remains a joke)
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Post by Whizzo on Jul 9, 2024 10:59:31 GMT
Two terms is the maximum whether they're consecutive or not, if you take over from someone else the most that can add is two years.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jul 9, 2024 11:45:08 GMT
Thank fuck for that.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 9, 2024 11:49:24 GMT
Two terms is the maximum whether they're consecutive or not, if you take over from someone else the most that can add is two years. We'll see...
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jul 9, 2024 11:50:49 GMT
I absolutely guarantee that some in the Republican camp have given thought on how to get rid of the two term limit.
I wouldn't be surprised if they at least *try* to remove the limit if Trump gets back in.
Jambo was much more succinct.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Jul 9, 2024 11:52:49 GMT
Yeah I have no doubt they will try and remove it but if they manage that the US is finished as a country.
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Post by Tuffty on Jul 9, 2024 11:57:29 GMT
If that happens then I hope everyone is OK with the Trump Dynasty. Imagine coke filled Don Jr with the big red button and I'm not talking about the one that summons diet coke on command.
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Post by Whizzo on Jul 9, 2024 11:59:00 GMT
Quite, the constitution is just paper and if someone wants to metaphorically to rip it up it's not like the Founding Fathers are going to rise up from their graves and stop it.
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Post by Zyrr on Jul 9, 2024 11:59:16 GMT
If this all happens they may as well just go the whole hog and rename the country "The Republic of Gilead".
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 9, 2024 12:06:14 GMT
Quite, the constitution is just paper and if someone wants to metaphorically to it up it's not like the Founding Fathers are going to rise up from their graves and stop it. OH MY GOD, THE DEAD HAVE RISEN AND THEY'RE VOTING REPUBLICAN!
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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 9, 2024 12:19:39 GMT
Quite, the constitution is just paper and if someone wants to metaphorically to it up it's not like the Founding Fathers are going to rise up from their graves and stop it. But they're Originalist and Textualist, user Whizzo, surely they'd never disrespect such an important docu-aaand they're wiping their arses with it after the lunch shit.
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Post by apollo on Jul 9, 2024 15:07:21 GMT
Sure trump will change the laws so he can be president or make it like russia. Trump rallied his cultists into trying to overthrow the government and Putin does not want USA to help Ukraine.
Biden needs to step down for the USA as idiots/undecided voters saw his terrible performance in the mud slinging and thought not voting for him, he cares if trump gets in!!!111
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Post by Whizzo on Jul 9, 2024 18:37:49 GMT
I wish I understood German, this is from the first time around and yet it still doesn't seem to matter.
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Post by Danno on Jul 9, 2024 22:30:38 GMT
The answer is still no
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Post by Danno on Jul 9, 2024 22:33:52 GMT
Unless they mean rapist. Then yes.
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Post by Bill the kidding on Jul 10, 2024 1:53:57 GMT
Why are US elections so long?? One term is 4 years, and one election is about a year! That's 25%! We did our election in about 8 days, and half of that was Sunak standing in the rain!
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Post by cubby on Jul 10, 2024 5:40:01 GMT
Our whole election period, including campaigning and transfer of power, is shorter than just the period between when the president wins and gets sworn into office.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 10, 2024 6:02:07 GMT
Much bigger scale there though, given the number of political appointees.
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Post by Vandelay on Jul 10, 2024 7:45:23 GMT
Why are US elections so long?? One term is 4 years, and one election is about a year! That's 25%! We did our election in about 8 days, and half of that was Sunak standing in the rain! They focus on it for much longer than a year too. I remember hearing (may or may not have been from The West Wing) that it really begins during the mid-terms, 2 years into a term, and that they really have to have done whatever it is they are planning to do by then or else it likely won't happen, as all the attention shifts to the presidential election.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jul 10, 2024 9:25:43 GMT
Why are US elections so long?? One term is 4 years, and one election is about a year! That's 25%! We did our election in about 8 days, and half of that was Sunak standing in the rain! They focus on it for much longer than a year too. I remember hearing (may or may not have been from The West Wing) that it really begins during the mid-terms, 2 years into a term, and that they really have to have done whatever it is they are planning to do by then or else it likely won't happen, as all the attention shifts to the presidential election. Also because the midterms include senators and House representatives, and could swing the Senate and/or House to the opposing party. So if the sitting cabinet hasn't had a good first two years, not only is the risk of losing Senate/House control greater due to bad optics (assuming they had it to begin with...), but the now opposition-controlled Senate/House could easily bottleneck any changes and wreck the next two years as well. Obviously the reverse could also happen, but it didn't happen all that often even before a good 1/3 of the US lost its mind, so... Then you add in things like the infamous FPTP we all know and love essentially forcing a two-party system, the Electoral College giving disproportionate power to states with a fraction of the population of other states, the lame duck period between election and inauguration that's basically just a relic of the vote certification process needing much more time to happen centuries ago... It's kind of a miracle such an antiquated system didn't fail earlier, honestly
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jul 10, 2024 14:28:59 GMT
Oh good, now they have a new worst thing ever.
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