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Post by grey_matters on Jan 2, 2022 14:23:18 GMT
IGI also had the stupidest AI ever. Snipe a dude who is talking to another dude? His pal just continues talking to thin air. But yeah, there was something about it that also enticed me. In a way, it was a good singleplayer version of Counterstrike. Hah, that AI was a great source of comedy at times. The 'stealth' aspects were pretty good, finding a tower and taking out the cameras with a sniper rifle was very satisfying. Maybe there's a modern James Bond game in there somewhere, heavily rebalanced of course. |
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Post by RadicalRex on Jan 2, 2022 15:11:52 GMT
IGI also had the stupidest AI ever. Snipe a dude who is talking to another dude? His pal just continues talking to thin air. That reminds me |
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Post by khanivor on Jan 2, 2022 16:50:58 GMT
Caesar (the city builder)
Sim City 2000
Startopia
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Post by Buu on Jan 2, 2022 17:06:51 GMT
Unreal Tournament 1999.
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Post by timmywimmywoo on Jan 2, 2022 17:14:14 GMT
IGI was fab because you should shoot people through wooden walls. I seem to remember there wasn't a checkpoint/save system and it was brutally hard as a result. It was also the first game I ever got in a DVD case rather than a big cardboard box – followed a day or two later by No One Lives Forever.
UT99 is still brilliant - I installed it the other day and installed some 4K textures and it's still fab.
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Post by Tomo on Jan 2, 2022 17:25:50 GMT
Too many to name, but the best in recent years are PUBG, Disco Elysium and Valheim. Genre defining or re-defining games right there.
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 2, 2022 18:55:06 GMT
Monkey Island: Currently leading the family through the first one, having completed Day of the Tentacle. I loved the second one. The third one I played with my late wife on whatever console it was released on, but we never completed it, as we didn’t realise you have to only draw at the robot monkey fight, not win . We just gave up on it. I look forward to introducing the new family to it  |
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Post by spacein_vader on Jan 2, 2022 19:49:33 GMT
Too many to name, but the best in recent years are PUBG, Disco Elysium and Valheim. Genre defining or re-defining games right there. Valheim is just Rust with vikings. |
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Post by grey_matters on Jan 2, 2022 20:05:02 GMT
SWOS
Civ2
Half-life2 (all episodes aggregated)
Portal (1&2)
Championship/Football Manager
Total War Medieval + Viking Invasion
Honourable mention for L4D2 which I only started playing during the lockdown in 2020 and, incredibly perhaps, was my first online game deslite it (and me) being so old.
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Post by Tomo on Jan 2, 2022 20:21:14 GMT
Too many to name, but the best in recent years are PUBG, Disco Elysium and Valheim. Genre defining or re-defining games right there. Valheim is just Rust with vikings. Have you actually played Valheim? Nothing like Rust. It's like saying Half Life is Doom with scientists. |
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Post by khanivor on Jan 2, 2022 23:56:29 GMT
Starlancer and Freespace 2 should join the formation with Tie Fighter
FEAR needs on the list as well.
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Post by Sarfrin on Jan 3, 2022 0:55:20 GMT
I've scrolled throught this entire thread and confirmed no one, including me, has mentioned The Talos Project. Best first person puzzler since the Portal games by far.
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Jan 3, 2022 1:30:22 GMT
Monkey Island: Currently leading the family through the first one, having completed Day of the Tentacle. I loved the second one. The third one I played with my late wife on whatever console it was released on, but we never completed it, as we didn’t realise you have to only draw at the robot monkey fight, not win . We just gave up on it. I look forward to introducing the new family to it That would be Escape from Monkey Island on PS2, the 4th game. The 3rd (Curse of MI) never got a console release. I never played the 4th much myself with it being weird and 3D (and not Grim Fandango). |
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Post by EMarkM on Jan 3, 2022 6:52:32 GMT
I’m sure you’re right! More to play |
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Post by spacein_vader on Jan 3, 2022 7:42:05 GMT
Valheim is just Rust with vikings. Have you actually played Valheim? Nothing like Rust. It's like saying Half Life is Doom with scientists. Played a few hours. Punch some trees, build a house, tech up, raid the NPCs. What am I missing? |
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Post by zagibu on Jan 3, 2022 9:28:30 GMT
I've scrolled throught this entire thread and confirmed no one, including me, has mentioned The Talos Project. Best first person puzzler since the Portal games by far.
It's one of those games I've bought and never played (so far). But some day I will.
I thought about putting Antichamber up there, which I loved very much.
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Post by Sarfrin on Jan 3, 2022 9:39:12 GMT
I didn't manage to finish Antichamber (I should have another go) but I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy Talos if you enjoyed that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 9:45:15 GMT
Game I've played the most hours on and probably had the most fun with was Lord of the Rings Online. I met a good bunch of people and loved the subject, so got really into it. I've got a Founders Edition of the game so still have it. I just don't have a PC anymore.
Played 1,000's of hours with raids sometimes starting at 7 and finishing around 4am. That was a very different life when I was young, free and single.
Biggest wow factor game was probably Doom which was just amazing at the time. Biggest laugh was Monkey Island.
Honourable mentions to Gabriel Knight, Populous, Dune, Age of Empires, Baldurs Gate, Demise, Lords of Midnight and lastly 3D Monster Maze which was my first ever game on a PC (ZX81).
I've had some really good times with my silicon buddies over the years.
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Post by muddyfunster on Jan 3, 2022 15:31:24 GMT
Grand Prix Legends, CM 97/98, Deus Ex, Day of The Tentacle and Oblivion are probably my favourites. DoTT still stands up, GPL too with mods, the others... less so.
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Post by zagibu on Jan 3, 2022 17:40:14 GMT
Oblivion seems like an odd choice.
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Post by deekyfun on Jan 3, 2022 19:25:16 GMT
Oblivion seems like an odd choice. Diff(er)ent strokes, and all that... I have on occasion, tried to gather the mental strength to rank the Elder Scrolls games by my preference, but everytime I tried to think about it the all the blood drains out of my circulatory system and my brain screams in boredom. To me, I might as well be trying to rank my favourite out of four identical blocks of wood. Which means Daggerfall wins by default, simply because I like it when people talk about the size of its World map. |
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Post by dominalien on Jan 3, 2022 19:32:11 GMT
I’m sure you’re right! More to play The third one is good and quite pretty. The next one was from a time where everything had to be 3D or it wouldn’t sell and is rather uninspired. I think it didn’t sell. |
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Post by deekyfun on Jan 3, 2022 19:51:36 GMT
Monkey Kombat is an abomination and may be responsible for the death of the genre.
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Post by muddyfunster on Jan 3, 2022 21:28:19 GMT
Oblivion seems like an odd choice. Yeah, I can understand that reaction. It was my first Elder Scrolls game (Morrowind was too hardcore an RPG for me at that time) so I didn't have any preconceptions about what it 'should' be. The massive open world to explore, graphics, voice acting and imaginative quests made a big impression. Didn't even mind the potato faced people all sharing the same lines of dialogue back in 2006. I played it exclusively for about 200hrs and loved it. It was mind blowing in scope and felt innovative (even if Morrowind did some similar things earlier). I guess it depends on whether the question is to be interpreted as to what is 'objectively' the best incorporating modern standards or whether it's the best in terms of the experience in the context of the time. Obviously I've assumed the latter. |
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Post by zagibu on Jan 3, 2022 21:33:26 GMT
Oh it's perfectly fine to be subjective. I just wanted to discuss about it. Oblivion certainly did lots of things right, I also spent quite some time with it, but it also had glaring flaws that prohibit it a spot on my personal best list. One of the worst ones is the enemy autolevel scaling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 21:37:08 GMT
Oblivion was the nice middle ground between Morrowind's obtuse "swing 90 times to hit once" combat and Skyrim's "mow through everyone" combat. Its world is probably less visually interesting than either of those, but it was a pretty big leap from Morrowind, and a lot of people's first Elder Scrolls.
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Post by dominalien on Jan 3, 2022 21:40:20 GMT
Ah, Oblivion. A PS3 game without trophies. I liked it, mostly, barring those stupid towers or pillars or gates or whatever those were.
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Post by deekyfun on Jan 3, 2022 21:44:36 GMT
It was hyped and reviewed well at the time, if I recall. I remember being impressed by the screenshots and the interviews about ai schedules.
I think Skyrim just casts such a huge shadow over it, which is why it can be surprising.
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Post by dominalien on Jan 3, 2022 21:48:31 GMT
Personally, Skyrim was just more of the same after Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion and I ran out of steam about halfway through.
I have a particularly fond recollection of the Bloodmoon expansion for Morrowind, I think that was just about peak Elder Scrolls.
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Post by zephro on Jan 4, 2022 14:19:02 GMT
Oblivion was my first Elder Scrolls and both it, Skyrim and Fallout 3 seem incredibly dull to me. The writing is never quite there or interesting and the exploring everything yourself just leads to more generic ruins/caves.
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