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Post by gamingdave on Nov 2, 2022 13:54:01 GMT
I too thought Solo was fine as an afternoon matinee, with some good action and a fun enough story. Of course it was completely pointless and we really didn't need it, but I did enjoy it for what it was.
Don't think coming out in the summer, when there had been the run of winter movies really helped, but I really don't think it's as bad as some make out and shouldn't be blamed for harming the cinema side of the franchise - that falls on the last trilogy, especially 8 and 9.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 2, 2022 14:27:11 GMT
It just occurred to me for some reason. That scene in New Hope where Luke says he wants to go to the academy. So was he going to become an Imperial Pilot or something like that? I don't think the film really makes it clear. Perhaps the expanded universe adds more, but no idea. From the extra deleted scenes between Luke and Biggs though, it sounds as if the Academy and the Imperial military is separate. Biggs tells Luke he is going to follow up on some leads about making it to the Alliance. He mentions something about wanting to get out before he gets drafted, suggesting that the Academy doesn't naturally lead into an Imperial military career. Luke also says he will go to the Academy next year and won't be drafted. I guess it is because, at this point, the Empire isn't in full control. It is during the film that they announce they have taken full control of the senate, so some pilot school at the arse end of the galaxy probably isn't under their authority. youtu.be/WaS_0oVJvio |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 14:35:16 GMT
Solo would have been better accepted if it was put straight into D+ rather than cinema I think. Was more inline with their standalone stuff like Mando.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 2, 2022 14:45:18 GMT
It would have been better if it had just been about Joff Fuckblaster and, if we really must have a tie in, Khaleesi gave up her life of crime at the end to move to Tatooine and became Aunt Beru.
Its not a bad movie in and of itself, its just the callbacks are actually the worst things in it. Some rando in a space caper would have been fine.
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Post by khanivor on Nov 2, 2022 15:20:02 GMT
Anyone who thinks ROTS isn’t a visual upgrade on AOTC is insane I think the biggest difference is they figured out the compositing. The colors match on all the layers. So the green screen and CGI elements don’t have that slightly washed out color imbalance that bakes them stand out like a sore thumb |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 15:30:38 GMT
It was more aesthetically pleasing in the same way that white dog shit looks nicer than regular old brown dog shit.
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Post by clemfandango on Nov 2, 2022 18:44:54 GMT
What’s next rogue one?
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Post by simple on Nov 2, 2022 19:02:19 GMT
Yeah going timeline order so Rogue One this evening and into the original trilogy tomorrow.
Not including the tv shows because I’ve been watching all the D+ live action as its been coming out and there are hundreds of episodes of the animated series.
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Post by Happenstance on Nov 2, 2022 19:03:03 GMT
I think Rogue One probably ended up as one of my favourite SW movies.
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Post by Nemesis on Nov 2, 2022 19:39:38 GMT
Same. Bloody love Rogue One.
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 2, 2022 20:34:32 GMT
It just occurred to me for some reason. That scene in New Hope where Luke says he wants to go to the academy. So was he going to become an Imperial Pilot or something like that? Headcanon here so feel free to ignore, but there's a good chance he'd go, be good enough to grab someone's attention and eventually (since he wouldn't have been given a reason to hide his name) maybe the Emperor would have caught wind of "the Skywalker kid" and connected the dots. Probably would have gone Anakin's way from there without old Obi-Wan to mentor him, though. And that's assuming he wouldn't just get shot down over some random asteroid... |
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Post by simple on Nov 2, 2022 20:52:10 GMT
Growing up where Anakin did with Anakin’s stepbrother and keeping Anakin’s surname hardly screams secure hiding even with Obi-Wan camped out in a cave nearby
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 2, 2022 21:17:54 GMT
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 2, 2022 21:31:06 GMT
Growing up where Anakin did with Anakin’s stepbrother and keeping Anakin’s surname hardly screams secure hiding even with Obi-Wan camped out in a cave nearby True, but considering Tatooine was basically on the ass end of the ass end of nowhere, I guess the thinking process was that no one would look and he'd live in anonymity until the time was right? Blame Yoda anyway, he's the one that came up with it  |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 2, 2022 21:33:28 GMT
And there's what I didn't know. |
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Post by simple on Nov 2, 2022 23:47:05 GMT
Growing up where Anakin did with Anakin’s stepbrother and keeping Anakin’s surname hardly screams secure hiding even with Obi-Wan camped out in a cave nearby True, but considering Tatooine was basically on the ass end of the ass end of nowhere, I guess the thinking process was that no one would look and he'd live in anonymity until the time was right? Blame Yoda anyway, he's the one that came up with it Yoda who immediately runs away into decades of even further isolation after losing one lightsaber fight |
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 3, 2022 1:03:26 GMT
True, but considering Tatooine was basically on the ass end of the ass end of nowhere, I guess the thinking process was that no one would look and he'd live in anonymity until the time was right? Blame Yoda anyway, he's the one that came up with it Yoda who immediately runs away into decades of even further isolation after losing one lightsaber fight I want to say that the implication of Yoda vs Palps wasn't just that he got salty over losing one fight, but that the fight made him realize how badly and for how long the Jedi Order as a whole had fucked up, giving evil like Palpatine the opportunity to fester... But it's been way too long since I last delved into Star Wars theorizing  Still, for all the prequels' faults, there's a decent bit of good symbolism to be found if you squint. Stuff like Palps tossing the Senate podiums at Yoda being symbolic of him bending the Senate to his will and using its power to destroy the Jedi, for instance. That, or people want to find hidden meanings where there aren't any, I suppose... |
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 3, 2022 7:55:08 GMT
And there's what I didn't know. Unbelievable. I posted about the scene just a few posts before yours! I included a link to the deleted scenes as well. As I say though, that scene makes it kind of clear that it isn't a natural progression from the Academy to the Imperial navy. They talk about being drafted and Biggs's uniform is very much not an Imperial one. I expect the intention is that the Academy isn't actually THE Academy and is just their nearby one that isn't under Imperial control as of yet. It would make sense that there isn't just one in the whole galaxy. They still turn up to recruit people though. As for what will happen when Luke goes, him going out into he world where there are likely Imperial forces sniffing around is very much why his uncle is all "You gotta stay and get that moisture outta that 'ere ground sonny." |
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Post by kal on Nov 3, 2022 8:26:53 GMT
People watching Star Wars films in chronological order might be my number one ‘things that are totally harmless that make you incredibly angry’ thing.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Nov 3, 2022 8:36:24 GMT
The correct order to watch is:
Ep 7 > ep 1 > ep 4 > ep 8 > ep 2 > ep 5 > ep 3 > ep 6 > ep 9.
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 3, 2022 8:43:32 GMT
Looking at some of y'all's posts the correct order seems to be Ep.4 -> Ep.5 -> Ep.6 -> TV turns off... |
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Post by simple on Nov 3, 2022 9:27:36 GMT
Yoda who immediately runs away into decades of even further isolation after losing one lightsaber fight I want to say that the implication of Yoda vs Palps wasn't just that he got salty over losing one fight, but that the fight made him realize how badly and for how long the Jedi Order as a whole had fucked up, giving evil like Palpatine the opportunity to fester... But it's been way too long since I last delved into Star Wars theorizing Still, for all the prequels' faults, there's a decent bit of good symbolism to be found if you squint. Stuff like Palps tossing the Senate podiums at Yoda being symbolic of him bending the Senate to his will and using its power to destroy the Jedi, for instance. That, or people want to find hidden meanings where there aren't any, I suppose... Yeah, I think it probably is that he knows the battle is lost for now but the writing and directing make him look like he’s going off in a strop because Lucas was rushing to put all the players in place for where they appear in the original trilogy and stuck it into a single line of dialogue. |
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Post by Saul1138 on Nov 3, 2022 9:33:50 GMT
People watching Star Wars films in chronological order might be my number one ‘things that are totally harmless that make you incredibly angry’ thing. Oh, how I remember that conversation. Imagine every bodies surprise at watching Empire the second time and thinking, wait Darth Vader is Luke’s dad. The films aren’t a choose your own adventure. |
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Post by simple on Nov 3, 2022 9:52:42 GMT
Disney clearly don’t care, the blurb for ROTS on D+ says “Anakin becomes Darth Vader”
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 3, 2022 9:57:47 GMT
We did a chronological watch recently in preparation to go to disney world (im the only one who who has actually seen all of them) and, yeah, you need to really watch them in release order.
Its pretty difficult to get anyone to give a shit about star wars if the first two things they watch is TPM and AOTC. Getting them to actually watch the good ones ended up being like pulling teeth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 10:08:00 GMT
Also anyone sleeping on Andor because the other series haven't been great need to get it watched. It's an absolutely huge step up in quality from pretty much anything post OT.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 3, 2022 10:12:02 GMT
Im going to start it this week. I think they made it great just to spite me.
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Post by Saul1138 on Nov 3, 2022 10:15:11 GMT
We did a chronological watch recently in preparation to go to disney world (im the only one who who has actually seen all of them) and, yeah, you need to really watch them in release order. Its pretty difficult to get anyone to give a shit about star wars if the first two things they watch is TPM and AOTC. Getting them to actually watch the good ones ended up being like pulling teeth. I agree if you have never seen any of them before, and aren’t aware of pop culture surrounding Star Wars. But at the age of fifty one, doing a chronological watch a few years ago was more for my own entertainment than anything else. |
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Post by Saul1138 on Nov 3, 2022 10:16:06 GMT
Also anyone sleeping on Andor because the other series haven't been great need to get it watched. It's an absolutely huge step up in quality from pretty much anything post OT. It is a step up on TV in general. |
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Post by nexus6 on Nov 3, 2022 10:16:23 GMT
Also anyone sleeping on Andor because the other series haven't been great need to get it watched. It's an absolutely huge step up in quality from pretty much anything post OT. After the, frankly, dross of Boba Fett and Wanky Nobby, Andor is a real treat. I only hope it's quality doesn't diminish Mando S3 too much in comparison. I want that to be as enjoyable as the first 2 seasons. |
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