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Post by Saul1138 on Aug 9, 2022 1:24:38 GMT
My kids reckon PM is the best one yet so fuck knows. I sat through it again and still a nope. Your kids think that?...Ah man there really is no hope for the future. What part really stood for out them, the bit about trade wars or the alien speaking patois? If someone says the John Williams score, then that should be acceptable. I once read somewhere, that he was the best story teller in the Star Wars team, and that is probably true.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Aug 9, 2022 5:19:44 GMT
If someone says the John Williams score, then that should be acceptable. I once read somewhere, that he was the best story teller in the Star Wars team, and that is probably true. Other than 3PO of course...
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 9, 2022 7:19:50 GMT
Don't know if it is a controversial take, but I actually think the score of the prequels is better than the original trilogy, overall.
The sequel trilogy felt like he was really phoning it in though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 7:33:17 GMT
Duel of the Fates is good. Also has the advantage of being played over the only section in the entire 3 films that isn't awful.
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 16, 2022 20:11:20 GMT
Rogue Squadron removed from Disneys release schedule.
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Post by khanivor on Sept 19, 2022 1:26:04 GMT
Good. With the director attacked to it was going to make the Holiday Special look like Empire
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Post by Happenstance on Oct 22, 2022 18:52:51 GMT
Thought I'd add to my Star Wars comic collection today and just ordered these 2 omnibus. I'm more familiar with the current Marvel canon stuff so I'm looking forward to reading these Legends stories.  
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Post by 😎 on Oct 22, 2022 18:55:45 GMT
Why does Quin Gon look like a darts player
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Post by Happenstance on Oct 22, 2022 18:58:34 GMT
Why does Quin Gon look like a darts player I expect to find out that he spent his off hours scamming people around the galaxy at darts using his force powers
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Post by spooky on Oct 27, 2022 0:19:26 GMT
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Post by simple on Oct 31, 2022 18:46:22 GMT
Inspired by Andor and Fallen Order I started my SW movie rewatch today. I’m going in timeline order so started with Phantom Menace.
My go-to opinion was always that it better than people usually say and that its basically a live action cartoon. That all the movies its the most overt in trying to target kids as its main audience. I still think thats all broadly true but what I’ve learnt today is that its also surprisingly long and slow. Maybe Marvel have ruined my attention span for this sort of thing but I remember it zipping from set piece to set piece, in actuality every scene is about 20 minutes long and the action is very staid.
I don’t know if the D+ version is any kind of remaster or upscale but the special effects held up better than I was expecting. Only big minuses there are any external green screen shot looks incredibly phoney and the grassland that the battle takes place on is entirely feature- and textureless so it looks like they’re on the old Windows XP desktop.
It did make me revisit this though which is a treat
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Post by Happenstance on Oct 31, 2022 19:13:57 GMT
I still have a soft spot for Phantom Menace. It's probably just nostalgia from watching it while I was still in school but I don't think it's as bad as a lot of people make out. Definitely better than Attack of the Clones anyway.
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Post by simple on Oct 31, 2022 19:26:25 GMT
My default opinion going into this rewatch is that Attack of the Clones was my least favourite of all the numbered main series entries. It has been a long time since I’ve watched it though.
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Post by H-alphaFox on Oct 31, 2022 19:29:51 GMT
RoS does not hold up, I struggled so much with it on the rewatch. It´s would of made a great Clone Wars season though.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 31, 2022 19:45:37 GMT
Phantom is easily the best of the prequels. Clones is by far the worst of all of them, being nearly unwatchable in places. Revenge is ok, but suffers the most from the poor decisions that lead up to it and doubling down them (in particular, not having Obi Wan and Anakin spend more than a few seconds in the same room together).
Phantom's biggest issue is Jar Jar, as well as just the general set up of a trade blockade not being the most exciting (they could have gotten away with it if they acknowledge that this is what the greatest warriors in the galaxy are now spending their time doing, whilst ignoring what is really going on). It is mostly fine though and the action sequences are easily the best of the prequels.
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Post by Happenstance on Oct 31, 2022 19:50:23 GMT
God I wish they had allowed Maul to be the prequels version of Vader and built-up over all 3 movies instead of killing him quickly then rushing to insert a new villain with no back story each movie.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 19:51:35 GMT
Yeah Phantom is the only one I can actually make it through. The other two are completely devoid of any redeeming qualities.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 31, 2022 19:58:33 GMT
Only Tories like the prequels.
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Post by Saul1138 on Nov 1, 2022 10:53:22 GMT
Yeah Phantom is the only one I can actually make it through. The other two are completely devoid of any redeeming qualities. The John Williams score, though TPM is still the better one.
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Post by simple on Nov 1, 2022 10:59:22 GMT
The score really elevates TPM. Thats true of all the SW films but it feels like even more than Lucas Williams understands that TPM needed to feel like an event and Star Wars a prestige franchise.
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Post by simple on Nov 1, 2022 16:22:41 GMT
Watched Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith today.
AOTCs is obviously the weaker of the two, its basically filler based upon a single throwaway line in ANH. ROTS has narrative drive on its side in a way neither of the other prequels did.
On AOTCs, positives are mainly in Obi Wan’s story in the first half of the film. The mystery of the bounty hunters, assassins and clones. Anakin’s romance plot as he tries to Licorice Pizza Padme is bad, the dialogue is bad, the acting is bad, the vibe is never believable. Once things move to Genosha it descends into Hobbit levels of green screen and cgi mess. The big battle is pretty cool and looks like a video game cutscene, the arena stuff looks terrible and all the Jedi look like totally chumps.
ROTSs biggest strength is probably that it never stops, it starts in a battle and then its nonstop galaxy in crisis and action from there. George Lucas might not be able to write or direct human emotions but he’s got a sense for swashbuckling adventure. Visually things have tightened up too, rarely is the green screen stuff jarringly false looking like in the previous films and the move toward synchronising the visual design of everything with the original trilogy means things are satisfyingly chunky and grubby looking. It also has everyone’s real favourite thing about SW in it too, spotting Trooper variants.
Not giving any pause to question why anyone is doing what they’re doing helps cover any narrative cracks in ROTS as well. Although by this point all the bad decisions have been made and their impact on the overall timeline set - the Empire only being 20 years old being probably the biggest.
The ultimate reveal of Darth Vader is also iconically terrible.
I don’t think rewatching the prequels has changed my opinion of them at all. Beyond the first two being longer and slower than I remembered everything is pretty much as anticipated.
Next up - Solo. Which I saw on release but have basically no memory of.
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Post by simple on Nov 1, 2022 16:24:20 GMT
Also, all of the action sequences in both films are structured more like video game levels and boss fights than things that actually make sense for people to do in life.
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Post by simple on Nov 2, 2022 0:07:43 GMT
Solo, I can see why I didn’t really remember much about that. Its more grounded and realistic than all the colourful space wizard adventures but also lost in endless murky greys and browns. The characters don’t really pop off the screen either. The plot is pretty lacklustre too. The return to real locations and sets after Lucas’s green screen obsession is nice to see though. Whatever their other qualities the Disney era products do at least have practical effects back in their arsenal. I’m not sure it was dull enough to be the franchise killer its became. D+ picking up the expanded universe has been a good decision whatever the reason. Does the reveal of Darth Maul pay off anywhere? I know his robot legs are a thing in the cartoons so I’m assuming this is a follow-up to that but where does he go from here? Its a pretty major character to tease like that then leave hanging in the air unused.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 2, 2022 7:24:06 GMT
Also, all of the action sequences in both films are structured more like video game levels and boss fights than things that actually make sense for people to do in life. This is something I really noticed in Clones, particularly the bit with Padme dashing around giant crusher things on a conveyor belt. It really did feel like a sequence that was only there to serve as a level in the inevitable tie-in game.
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Post by malek86 on Nov 2, 2022 13:07:01 GMT
It just occurred to me for some reason. That scene in New Hope where Luke says he wants to go to the academy. So was he going to become an Imperial Pilot or something like that?
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Post by H-alphaFox on Nov 2, 2022 13:23:33 GMT
I really enjoyed Solo, thought it was a thoroughly serviceable outing. In saying that I have seen it 3 times as each time you get to the interesting bits towards the end my wife has fallen asleep by then so perhaps it's a bit boring but I didn't find it so.
Can't say I agree with RoTS looking better, I can't get past it. I tried to put it to the back of my mind but inevitably another scene would follow from the one previous. It's a grating watch. Bit like a reverse Roger Rabbit(the movie not position) where instead of having animated characters in a real life setting you had real characters in an animation.
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Post by nexus6 on Nov 2, 2022 13:30:59 GMT
Solo was a perfectly acceptable movie in my opinion. It was exciting, it looked good, the story was perfectly acceptable.
Not the most amazing film ever but certainly not the franchise killer it was made out to be. Bit of an over reaction that I think. Waiting on the re-evaluation of it in coming years.
I also love the design of Enfys Nest in particular. Looking at pics now I see the 'Two Tubes' guy from Rogue One hanging around as well. Cool.
I think with Andor, this will tie in to the story of the beginning of the rebellion better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 13:40:17 GMT
I liked that every one of Han's major life events that were mentioned in the original to give the character depth and mystique all happened in the space of 9 days.
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Post by nexus6 on Nov 2, 2022 13:45:18 GMT
I liked that too.
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Post by simple on Nov 2, 2022 13:52:58 GMT
Anyone who thinks ROTS isn’t a visual upgrade on AOTC is insane
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