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Post by rawshark on Jun 2, 2023 23:27:30 GMT
Everyone should take a ride on a train in India at some point in their life. It’s quite the adventure.
But I can understand how the idea might not be particularly appealing after this…
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 3, 2023 6:01:41 GMT
Over 280 dead now
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Post by baihu1983 on Jun 3, 2023 6:28:04 GMT
Really trying to use her death for sympathy(though it seems her mother supports him in this)
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Post by Dougs on Jun 3, 2023 6:31:00 GMT
I'm old enough to remember Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith (13) being a thing. Even as kid I knew it was wrong but the media just went along with it and my parents just called him a dirty old man. It's only when I got older and read a biography on Brian Jones (Golden Stone, great book) I found out he had form for young girls dating back to the 60's.... He's another proper wrong un who now lives a life of luxury in the South of France This is it. The sheer hypocrisy is staggering. The "entertainment industry" is littered with very similar, if not worse examples like this one. That doesn't mean Schofield's not a wrong un of course, just that others should face the same scrutiny.
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Post by X201 on Jun 3, 2023 19:39:32 GMT
Private Eye pointed out that a certain pundit at the Daily Mail also harassed young male staff; some of who left with a payout and an NDA.
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Post by Danno on Jun 3, 2023 20:52:21 GMT
Private Eye pointed out that a certain pundit at the Daily Mail also harassed young male staff; some of who left with a payout and an NDA. Sarah Vine?
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Post by minimatt on Jun 3, 2023 22:13:15 GMT
i'm just done with dirty old men.
if you're banging someone old enough to be your child then you're a dirty old man. Whether the relationship is also an abuse of power, or coercive is a question for those closer to it or for those with a duty of care. But that doesn't change the older party being a dirty old man I wan't nothing to do with, I want nowhere near anyone I care about.
I'm quite sure Al Pacino (83)'s other half (29) knows exactly what she wants and is an adult quite capable of making her own decisions, but Al Pacino remains a dirty old man. The thirty plus years between grandad Schofield and his victim/partner is similarly indicative. And have to say I get real fucking twinges with the twenty something years between Boris Johnson & his other half.
Minus their wealth, power, or status, all these people would be rubbing the thighs of their wank stained corduroys outside the school gates.
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Post by Danno on Jun 3, 2023 22:21:25 GMT
Say what you mean Matt. You're so repressed.
It's close to 30 between Bojo and Carrie btw.
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Post by minimatt on Jun 3, 2023 22:23:26 GMT
It's close to 30 between Bojo and Carrie btw. ick
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Post by Danno on Jun 3, 2023 22:34:28 GMT
It's close to 30 between Bojo and Carrie btw. ick A grooming by class case study would be interesting. She's clearly of a certain "stock"
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Post by technoish on Jun 3, 2023 22:43:48 GMT
Elvis Presley met his future wife when she was 14, he 24... They hung out a bunch. She then basically moved to be with him when she turned 17.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jun 3, 2023 22:49:21 GMT
This might be an unpopular opinion, but... sometimes women are attracted to older men (and vice versa). So if they're both consenting adults, I don't really see the problem.
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Post by geefe on Jun 3, 2023 23:14:58 GMT
Am I really supposed to look at 83 year old Al Pacino shagging a 29 year old and go "you disgusting old man?"
No. I think fair fucking play, mate.
I find the kid thing bothersome but more because there's absolutely no way he can be a proper father figure to it.
If Helen Mirren suddenly started shagging a 25 year old, would we judge? Same way GILF of the Year Carol Vorderman has a variety of blokes, some of whom are younger.
Don't conflate two actual consenting adults with a case of grooming.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 23:17:35 GMT
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Post by Lizard on Jun 3, 2023 23:58:56 GMT
Am I really supposed to look at 83 year old Al Pacino shagging a 29 year old and go "you disgusting old man?" No. I think fair fucking play, mate. I find the kid thing bothersome but more because there's absolutely no way he can be a proper father figure to it. If Helen Mirren suddenly started shagging a 25 year old, would we judge? Same way GILF of the Year Carol Vorderman has a variety of blokes, some of whom are younger. Don't conflate two actual consenting adults with a case of grooming. If anything Pacino could do with a decent grooming
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 4, 2023 5:19:25 GMT
To be honest, on reflection I don't really think "you disgusting old man", with Pacino it's more "that's just weird and odd". And I'd feel similar should the genders be flipped.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 4, 2023 6:55:40 GMT
It would be a bit weirder if a 29 year old dude got an 82 year old woman pregnant
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jun 4, 2023 7:47:25 GMT
Prude.
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Post by mrpon on Jun 4, 2023 7:48:17 GMT
No, you're not supposed to be looking geefe.
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Post by kal on Jun 4, 2023 7:58:41 GMT
I just think let people live.
If men or women shagging younger or older but perfectly capable of making informed decisions about who they shag people gives you the ick that’s your problem. Just like people who think being gay is unnatural or black men shouldn’t shag white women or disabled people should stick to their own kind or whatever. That’s your ick and your problem and as long as you keep it to yourself fine, but why should anyone else give a fuck?
Protecting the vulnerable is important and sometimes the lines get blurry. But when it’s just about people projecting their own insecurities and prejudices on everyone else they can fuck off.
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Post by sport✅ on Jun 4, 2023 8:03:11 GMT
Pacino Lives Matter!
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jun 4, 2023 8:51:47 GMT
Yeah, it'd be different if there was an abuse of power going on. Or if it was a Woody Allen type situation, where there's a lot more wrongness there than just the age thing.
But generally if two people are in a relationship and are happy, I don't have a problem with that.
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Post by Zuluhero on Jun 4, 2023 9:16:52 GMT
Tbh I'm surprised he can get it up and not have any hip issues or have the energy to get him through a night with a 29y/o. I'm only mid-40s and I would struggle. Good on him I suppose. I don't really have any opinion on the age gap beyond that.
On the baby front, I see loads of my friends having babies in their 40s and just wonder how they can do it. I just don't have the energy. Mines 16 and I'm winding down. I couldn't imagine doing it again now, let alone 82.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Jun 4, 2023 9:31:36 GMT
I don’t think these are the kinds of people that raise kids anyway, it’s nannies and a team of “helpers”. I think Madonna is on the path of becoming the female equivalent tbh, she constantly has a dude half her age.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 9:32:47 GMT
She's starting to look like a Thundercat now.
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Post by dmukgr on Jun 4, 2023 9:45:58 GMT
This all makes me feel dodgy as my misses looks at least twenty years younger than me, so everyone must think I’m a dirty old man too.
The fact that she’s three years older makes it worse, those wild years are really beginning to show on me :/
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jun 4, 2023 9:47:30 GMT
We're all dirty old men
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Post by sport✅ on Jun 4, 2023 9:48:05 GMT
This all makes me feel dodgy as my misses looks at least twenty years younger than me, so everyone must think I’m a dirty old man too. The fact that she’s three years older makes it worse, those wild years are really beginning to show on me :/ Wouldn't worry about it mate. They probably think she's your carer.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Jun 4, 2023 9:48:54 GMT
This all makes me feel dodgy as my misses looks at least twenty years younger than me, so everyone must think I’m a dirty old man too. The fact that she’s three years older makes it worse, those wild years are really beginning to show on me :/ Or is that you've just aged really badly?
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 4, 2023 10:04:14 GMT
I just think let people live. If men or women shagging younger or older but perfectly capable of making informed decisions about who they shag people gives you the ick that’s your problem. Just like people who think being gay is unnatural or black men shouldn’t shag white women or disabled people should stick to their own kind or whatever. That’s your ick and your problem and as long as you keep it to yourself fine, but why should anyone else give a fuck? Protecting the vulnerable is important and sometimes the lines get blurry. But when it’s just about people projecting their own insecurities and prejudices on everyone else they can fuck off. While I do generally agree with that, I can’t help thinking back to some of the grotesque ‘nice lifestyle, shame if anything happened to it’ stuff that used to go on in the playboy mansion when octogenarian Hefner was scoring with 20 year olds.
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