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Post by cubby on Jun 25, 2024 21:56:25 GMT
Did you know, deadpool knows he's in a movie.
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Post by simple on Jun 25, 2024 22:01:35 GMT
I thought I was alone in preferring the second
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Post by Binky on Jun 26, 2024 6:53:03 GMT
We watched them back to back the other month and didn't think the second was a patch on the first.
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Post by Binky on Jun 26, 2024 6:57:32 GMT
Deadpool and Deadpool 2 double bill last night. Deadpool Still a lot of fun and zips along at a good pace. 8/10 Deadpool 2 A bit of a waste this one. A handful of good lines but odd pacing makes it all a little bit dull. It’s never a good thing when the end credits scene is the best bit of the film. 5/10 Ah yes, it was the pacing I thought was odd. I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me a lot of it was adlibbed.
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Post by dfunked on Jun 26, 2024 7:13:15 GMT
Civil War - 7/10 Some great imagery, beautifully shot with some excellent sound design, but the film itself just left me feeling a bit cold. I think it was just too hard to sympathise with characters who practically get off on human misery. The Jesse Plemons scene was ridiculously tense! Noticed part way through that I was digging my fingernails into my palm
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Post by otto on Jun 26, 2024 7:25:34 GMT
The Lord of the Rings (1978, dir. Bakshi)
The last time I saw this was for my friend Ian's 9th birthday party, we all went up to Leicester Square in his mum's Volvo and had pizza, I remember because it was the first time I'd ever eaten an olive. Anyway, the film. I remember it making a big impression on me aged 9, and being very disappointed that it ended where it did and never had a sequel. That remains its biggest flaw, of course.
So yes I bought it to watch again, given the recent discussion here about the later films, and I thought it would be interesting to compare them (or rather, how I feel about them). But I'm not actually going to compare them because then I would be repeating my tiresome views on the more recent films, so here's what I think about the Bakshi film 46 years later:
- Pretty faithful to the book, to the point that a lot of the dialogue is directly lifted. This is a good thing. The pacing is good, in fact it's impressive how he managed to concentrate so much into so short a space.
- Artwork bears up pretty well, I think. I didn't love what he did with The Shire but it's still not as bad as some other interpretations *cough*.
- The way he blended live action footage with animation works really well, I think. He achieves things that later film makers might be tempted to throw multimillions at in terms of CGI to no better effect.
- Voice acting is very good. Character design ranges from really excellent (Aragorn, Gandalf) to pretty dodgy (Sam, Legolas, Galadriel, Boromir). By and large it works to engage suspension of disbelief and allow you to invest in them.
- ooh I forgot the soundtrack - it's excellent - memorable movie theme that fits the content perfectly and sticks with you the way others don't.
- I liked what he did with the cave troll in Moria.
8/10
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Post by britesparc on Jun 26, 2024 7:57:07 GMT
I haven't seen that film since I was a kid and barely remember it. I have the DVD - which I never watched, typical - buried somewhere in my mum's loft. I think at this point it'll be easier to just buy it again...
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 26, 2024 7:57:57 GMT
I used to love that LotR as a kid. Felt truly epic at the time. I was always super sad that it didn't get finished.
I haven't watched it in decades, so I won't comment on how it does or doesn't hold up now.
Jackson was definitely inspired by it in places, as some shots in the new Trilogy seemed like they came right out of my memory of it. (Same goes for his Hobbit and the animated 70s Hobbit movie, though obviously to a worse end result).
Iirc it's pretty flawed in places though. Boromir being a Barbarian always seemed a bit off to me.
I don't remember the music at all, though it has been a long time. Unlike certain other movies where the score is stunning and very memorable.
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Post by otto on Jun 26, 2024 9:38:23 GMT
Here's the theme
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Post by otto on Jun 26, 2024 9:41:33 GMT
Jackson was definitely inspired by it in places, as some shots in the new Trilogy seemed like they came right out of my memory of it. (Same goes for his Hobbit and the animated 70s Hobbit movie, though obviously to a worse end result). Iirc it's pretty flawed in places though. Boromir being a Barbarian always seemed a bit off to me. Yeah Boromir the Barbarian was poor character design indeed. Legolas also, looked like he had Downs, and none of the other elves had the same look so why?? And Galadriel as Barbie. The 'hiding under the tree from the Black Rider' scene must have inspired Jackson, it looks almost identical. I don't think I ever saw the 70s animated Hobbit film?? If we're talking adaptations, though, the best without a doubt was the BBC radio dramatisation of LOTR. That was incredible.
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Post by richardiox on Jun 26, 2024 10:18:59 GMT
That hiding from the black riders shot is exactly what I was thinking of. Jackson set his up almost identically to the animated one, it's very evocative. I wonder if he references it on the directors commentary for Fellowship?
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Post by britesparc on Jun 26, 2024 11:30:41 GMT
IIRC, the only shot he acknowledges as a direct homage is the one from Bilbo's party, the hobbit with his feet up on the table ("Paddlefeet" or something). I think - stretching my memory now - he says he wanted to tip the hat to Bakshi because he loved the film so much and thought it was a cool shot. But then (maybe this was in subsequent interviews, not the commentary) he goes on to talk about how Bakshi didn't like the film, thought he'd been ripped off but also ignored, etc, which Jackson was upset about because he was always a huge fan and would never have even read LOTR if he hadn't seen the animated film first.
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Post by otto on Jun 26, 2024 12:14:18 GMT
PROUDFOOTS
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 26, 2024 12:31:00 GMT
Hmm. That theme sounds very very vaguely familiar, but I thought I'd remember it more given how much I watched that movie as a kid.
I don't think I ever saw the 70s animated Hobbit film?? If we're talking adaptations, though, the best without a doubt was the BBC radio dramatisation of LOTR. That was incredible. The 70s Hobbit takes a lot of liberties with the source, and the budget was obviously pretty limited. But it's charming and surprisingly my kids sat all the way through it despite the age and flaws.
It was either that or show them the Jackson Hobbit movie(s), and I don't hate them that much.
I have the radio version of LotR on cd somewhere. It was indeed great, though it wouldn't be my personal best.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 26, 2024 12:32:20 GMT
Seemed to get a bit of a mixed reception on here but I watched Hit Man yesterday and really enjoyed it, Glen Powell was excellent and his star is certainly rising very quickly.
It was also nice to see Adria Arjona looking a damn sight better than the last thing I saw her in where she was worked over by the Imperial Security Bureau.
Thumbs up from me.
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Post by apollo on Jun 26, 2024 15:49:26 GMT
Kong x Godzilla (dry heave) new empire
what a dumb film, it makes the last fast and furious film look like high art - the fact the recent Japanese Godzilla film shows you can make a good film from giant monsters. The cast in this are so dull and boring, they even mention dan steven's character looks like ace ventura but AV would of been great in Kong film or made it more fun. The podcast guy was just the unfunny subpar-marvel quippy "humour"
I liked it when Kong beat up the little ginger ape and it looked good on 4k
4/10
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Post by malek86 on Jun 26, 2024 16:51:56 GMT
Jackson was definitely inspired by it in places, as some shots in the new Trilogy seemed like they came right out of my memory of it. (Same goes for his Hobbit and the animated 70s Hobbit movie, though obviously to a worse end result). Iirc it's pretty flawed in places though. Boromir being a Barbarian always seemed a bit off to me. Yeah Boromir the Barbarian was poor character design indeed. Legolas also, looked like he had Downs, and none of the other elves had the same look so why?? And Galadriel as Barbie. The 'hiding under the tree from the Black Rider' scene must have inspired Jackson, it looks almost identical. I don't think I ever saw the 70s animated Hobbit film?? If we're talking adaptations, though, the best without a doubt was the BBC radio dramatisation of LOTR. That was incredible. The 70's Hobbit is pretty good imo. Sure it's very compressed from the book (whereas the trilogy is horrendously bloated), but the key bits are all there, and the animation - low budget it may be - plus the music and songs set the mood very nicely. The first Hobbit movie is probably closest in tone, and it's still not very close. The songs are not the same either. I think it's worth watching even now.
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Post by otto on Jun 26, 2024 17:38:15 GMT
Checked out some clips on youtube and I'd really like to see it but it doesn't seem to be available to buy or stream on any platform.
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 26, 2024 17:41:42 GMT
C3P0 as Legolas. John Hurt as Aragorn. Margaret Meldrew as Galadriel.
It’s brilliant.
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Post by malek86 on Jun 26, 2024 18:26:37 GMT
Checked out some clips on youtube and I'd really like to see it but it doesn't seem to be available to buy or stream on any platform. Yeah, it's old... I think it's still available in the USA, but not anywhere else.
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Post by technoish on Jun 26, 2024 20:26:23 GMT
You can get El Hobbit UK next day delivery from Amazon (Spain).
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Post by Rich on Jun 26, 2024 20:32:01 GMT
Jackson was definitely inspired by it in places, as some shots in the new Trilogy seemed like they came right out of my memory of it. (Same goes for his Hobbit and the animated 70s Hobbit movie, though obviously to a worse end result). Iirc it's pretty flawed in places though. Boromir being a Barbarian always seemed a bit off to me. Yeah Boromir the Barbarian was poor character design indeed. Legolas also, looked like he had Downs, and none of the other elves had the same look so why?? And Galadriel as Barbie. The 'hiding under the tree from the Black Rider' scene must have inspired Jackson, it looks almost identical. I'm glad Jackson went with a more faithful version of Gimli though. It was a bold choice to make the dwarf the tallest member of the fellowship.
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Post by rawshark on Jun 26, 2024 20:33:57 GMT
You can get El Hobbit UK next day delivery from Amazon (Spain). Thats the Spanish title? I’d have gone with “Niños pequeños con pies grandes”
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 27, 2024 1:30:38 GMT
Yeah Boromir the Barbarian was poor character design indeed. Legolas also, looked like he had Downs, and none of the other elves had the same look so why?? And Galadriel as Barbie. The 'hiding under the tree from the Black Rider' scene must have inspired Jackson, it looks almost identical. I don't think I ever saw the 70s animated Hobbit film?? If we're talking adaptations, though, the best without a doubt was the BBC radio dramatisation of LOTR. That was incredible. The 70's Hobbit is pretty good imo. Sure it's very compressed from the book (whereas the trilogy is horrendously bloated), but the key bits are all there, and the animation - low budget it may be - plus the music and songs set the mood very nicely. The first Hobbit movie is probably closest in tone, and it's still not very close. The songs are not the same either. I think it's worth watching even now. Yeah, it captures the vibe of the book much better than the Trilogy, even if some choices are odd. Plus it has songs! Failing everything else, the Internet Archive has it.
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Post by hicksy on Jun 27, 2024 5:52:01 GMT
Beep De Beeb Boop (and you have loan of my wheelie bin)
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Post by dfunked on Jun 27, 2024 9:36:06 GMT
Furiosa - 9/10
Absolutely loved this. I often find myself splitting longer films across two evenings, but was too captivated by this to even consider it.
Absolutely gorgeous throughout. Excellent performances all around, especially Hemsworth in a scenery chewing (in a good way) role it feels like he was born to play. Fury Road will probably stand up to repeat viewings a bit more due to the more balls to the wall nature, but I'll still definitely be revisiting this one.
The colour grading of the Fury Road bits at the end were a bit jarring though. Seems like a weird oversight. I'm sure it didn't look like that on a recent viewing.
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Post by technoish on Jun 27, 2024 12:55:23 GMT
Does Hemsworth get to keep his own accent?
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jun 27, 2024 13:04:17 GMT
Does Hemsworth get to keep his own accent? He hams it up a lot, but yes, he's allowed to have an Aussie accent.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 27, 2024 13:28:23 GMT
Tom Burke doesn't get to keep his English accent though, which is understandable as the Road Warrior character in it it would be a bit odd, his Aussie is very good.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jun 27, 2024 13:33:28 GMT
Yeah, I was surprised at how authentic Tom Burke sounded. It's not often you hear a convincing Aussie accent from someone who isn't Australian.
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