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Post by drhickman1983 on May 1, 2024 20:38:09 GMT
It's a conscious choice, doesn't mean it's a good one.
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Post by elstoof on May 1, 2024 20:39:15 GMT
That’s exactly what I said
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 1, 2024 20:41:44 GMT
Yes, yes you did.
I'm tired.
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Post by elstoof on May 1, 2024 20:43:57 GMT
I thought I had the Nolan mix on my post
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Post by Dougs on May 1, 2024 20:44:27 GMT
It's baffling. Has he ever said why?
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cubby
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Post by cubby on May 1, 2024 21:10:24 GMT
Apparently he's a bit deaf or something? That's what I've heard.
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Post by elstoof on May 1, 2024 21:12:47 GMT
Apparently he refuses to get actors back in the sound booth to overdub lines, to preserve what was recorded in the moment. I guess that means it all needs to be mixed down to consistent dogshit
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Post by Vandelay on May 1, 2024 22:29:52 GMT
Can't say I've ever had a problem with hearing the dialogue in his films. Maybe in Tenet I think there was a scene in a speed boat I found it unclear (although, that was the least of that film's problems). I know lots of people complain about it, so I guess there must be something in it, but in the cinema and physical versions on my decent home sound system have all sounded fine to me.
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Post by RumMonkey on May 1, 2024 23:07:52 GMT
Tom Hardy did a voice that time too.
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Post by Lizard on May 1, 2024 23:42:18 GMT
Montage, grave dialogue drowned out by incredibly loud horn.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 2, 2024 1:57:29 GMT
I'm having to watch The Batman with subtitles, even though I'm listening headphones. If I turn the volume up loud enough that the dialogue is clear, I get absolutely deafened any time an action scene kicks off.
Maybe it's a thing with Batman movies. Robert P isn't even doing a full-on Bale voice, just sounding a bit grumpy and tired.
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Post by britesparc on May 2, 2024 10:43:06 GMT
Every time they change Batmans they fix some stuff that's always been weird, but then undo stuff that the previous Batman fixed. I can't believe Affleck's Bat went back to the huge rubber neck after Bale's Bat realised it's much better if the actor can move his head. But then I can't believe, after they gave Affleck a vocoder thing, Pattinson just went back to "putting on a slightly deeper voice".
I can't wait to see whatever the new DCU Batman does, though.
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Post by Reviewer on May 2, 2024 10:53:40 GMT
It's baffling. Has he ever said why? Because apparently it's more the 'experience' and the dialogue isn't necessarily important, it's the tone of what's being said that's more important to him. For instance in Dunkirk he wants you to struggle to hear over the engines of the plane so it feels more like being in the plane. It's definitely a choice, and I understand his reasons but it's stupid and makes no sense when his films actually do rely on what's being said so much. I didn't think Oppenheimer was that bad for it, and some of his other films like The Prestige don't seem to have the issue at all.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 2, 2024 11:37:53 GMT
One of the reasons we struggle so much with it now is that we all have the attention span of a housefly so one look down at your phone and that's half the conversation gone.
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Post by Whizzo on May 2, 2024 12:19:48 GMT
One thing I like about going to the cinema is I can concentrate on the film with no distractions.
I also had no problems with the dialogue in The Batman or Oppenheimer, which is just as well as the Nolan film is 90% talking.
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Post by rhaegyr on May 2, 2024 12:28:25 GMT
It's fine in the cinema - there are multiple audio channels and sound setups that can handle it effectively and nothing gets lost.
At home films in general are a nightmare regarding audio clarity - if you don't have a surround sound setup you're sat there with controller in hand changing the volume between scenes with dialogue and anything else. It's a pain in the arse.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 2, 2024 13:48:07 GMT
One of the reasons we struggle so much with it now is that we all have the attention span of a housefly so one look down at your phone and that's half the conversation gone. Speak for yourself! I've never looked at my phone while watching a movie. Sacrilegious!
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Post by Chopsen on May 2, 2024 15:27:29 GMT
Knock at the CabinWell, this was more like it - silly, yes, flawed, yes, but absorbing, focused and intense and with some decent performances, Dave Bautista in particular (he really is good in everything I've seen him in). Shyamalan fascinates me. I don't really get why he's so erratic and capable of such catastrophic misjudgements, but when you see something like this I feel like on balance I'm glad he's out there doing his high concept thing. I don't know if I'm ready for Old yet. 7/10 Yeah agree. It's one of his better ones, but it *still* seems to need to over-explain everything at the end.
Agree also that he's an interesting film maker, and even when he does something shit it's still interestingly shit, because he can be so good when he nails it. I'll always check out his films because of that. Bit like I do with Lars von Trier. "Oh gawd, what's he done now...."
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Post by brokenkey on May 2, 2024 15:47:50 GMT
Can't say I've ever had a problem with hearing the dialogue in his films. Maybe in Tenet I think there was a scene in a speed boat I found it unclear (although, that was the least of that film's problems). I know lots of people complain about it, so I guess there must be something in it, but in the cinema and physical versions on my decent home sound system have all sounded fine to me. Tenet was awful, at the start whebthey are wearing masks. I went back to watch it at a subtitled screening, made loads more sense
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Post by Reviewer on May 2, 2024 17:14:27 GMT
Apollo 13 8/10
I’ve seen this far more than the film probably deserves, love the soundtrack and the last 15 minutes. Something always gets me with those sorts of endings with people cheering.
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Post by Whizzo on May 2, 2024 19:27:41 GMT
The Fall Guy - in a cinema
I enjoyed the TV series when I watched in my teenage years, not just for Heather Thomas but she certainly helped, Lee Majors doing the occasional stunt as Colt Seavers while he was mostly bounty hunting and driving around in a big pickup truck. This time around Ryan Gosling's Colt Seavers does a lot more stunts and does also drive a big pickup truck but there's absolutely no bounty hunting but there is a hunt for a missing film star who he used to stunt double for.
The plot is not exactly going to tax anyone too hard as this is a pretty knock about film that doesn't take itself too seriously but does point out the lack of recognition that stunt performers and crews get from the industry. David Leitch directs with plenty of knowledge his former career gets ignored at the big awards and is clearly unimpressed by actors who say they do all their own stunts. I was already pro-stunt people before the movie so he was preaching to the choir for me but hopefully it gets some traction on that front.
There's tons of meta humour about film in general and there's plenty of laughs throughout and if anyone wanted to see Sydney getting smashed up a fair amount this is the movie for you. There's some good use of Chekhov's Gun that pay off really well too. The stunts, unsurprisingly are very well done and you get to witness a world record being set too.
It's a lot of fun and I give it a hearty stuntman thumb up.
There's BTS footage of the stunt work that plays alongside the credits which is well worth watching as it does lead to a post credit scene that features a couple of cameos that really had to be there, bit of a shame the cast list in the credits gave it away but it's not really a surprise.
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Post by brokenkey on May 2, 2024 21:01:50 GMT
I agree with Whizzo, thoroughly enjoyable.
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Post by Binky on May 3, 2024 8:57:01 GMT
Excellent. Seeing this on Sunday morning, can't wait. Loved Bullet Train so if it's more of the same then it'll be a really fun watch.
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Post by britesparc on May 3, 2024 12:21:02 GMT
Roundup of some films I saw in the last week or so:
Asterix and Cleopatra (1968) ** One of the first adaptations of Asterix, it feels almost like a TV movie. The animation is largely quite poor (think a second-tier Hannah Barbera cartoon), and it features some gross racial stereotypes. There are some quite nice gags playing off its animated/comic-book nature, but it feels just like a dated curio. Not keen on the voice acting, either. (Prime Video)
Divergent (2014) ** Dystopic YA book adapted into a film, trying to surf the waves of Potter/Twilight/Hunger Games. Not sure what the book's like, but the bleak future shown here is rather complicated, and the structure and design of the world in the movie doesn't help. It has a rather cheap, unpopulated look that evokes TV dramas rather than epic movies. I mean, it's fine; I feel mean criticising it. If you're a fan you'll probably like it. Nothing's offensive, it's just been done a lot better elsewhere. (Disney+)
Abigail (2024) **** Camp, schlocky fun. Well staged, well shot, well performed. Closer in spirit to something like From Dusk Till Dawn than a straight horror movie, it's fun to watch the various slaughterings and maimings as vampire ballerina Abigail works her way through a group of fairly-well-drawn kidnappers. Not at all scary; incredibly gory; YMMV but I really liked it. (Cinema)
In the Land of Saints and Sinners (2024) **** The basic summary of "Big Liam vs the IRA" suggests a goofy, violent revenge story, whereas really it's more of an Unforgiven-style meditation on a life of violence and how it leads only to further violence. Incredibly well acted across the board - shout out to Kerry Condon, FRIDAY herself, as a terrifically sweary IRA leader - it's sombre and straight-faced and whilst it does little new it does it with style and some degree of integrity. (Netflix)
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Post by Reviewer on May 3, 2024 12:28:49 GMT
Pulp Fiction 8/10 It’s been about 25 years since I last saw this and while it’s still very good I can’t imagine how old it would feel to the younger generation now. I think it feels like 20 year old films would have felt when we were kids (70s) films mainly.
I’ve never been massively into Tarantino but I might finally give Jackie Brown a go soon. Something has always put me off it, even though I like Elmore Leonard.
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Post by cubby on May 3, 2024 12:36:23 GMT
What's with all these titles that sound the same at the moment? There's The Fall Guy with Ryan Gosling, not to be confused with Free Guy starring Ryan Reynolds, or The Nice Guys with Ryan Gosling, or The Other Guys with Ryan Whalberg, or The Bad Guys starring Ryan Rockwell OR EVEN that movie just called Fall starring a massive fucking pole that's probably called Ryan!
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 3, 2024 12:48:34 GMT
The Ryan Guy starring Falls Reynolds
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Post by Whizzo on May 3, 2024 12:57:47 GMT
The Fall Guy at least has its name from more than forty years ago so there is that.
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Post by brokenkey on May 3, 2024 13:06:08 GMT
It's such a great title because he's a fall guy and he's the fall guy.
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Post by dmukgr on May 3, 2024 13:18:12 GMT
Which one is the Mark E Smith biopic?
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