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Post by Whizzo on Apr 16, 2024 11:03:09 GMT
I love Dog Soldiers but, you know, the clue was kinda in the name. They should have called it "There Is No Spoon" to confuse people into thinking that it's a Matrix sequel. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 16, 2024 13:13:24 GMT
The Descent is still my number one surprise genre film... The caving one?
I knew what that was about going in, so I didn't really register any surprise.
That said, I probably would have known what From Dusk Til Dawn was going in if it wasn't a dodgy Hong Kong VCD with very limited info on the box. I think the VHS/DVD ones pretty much gave it away on the back cover, if not the front.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 16, 2024 13:16:31 GMT
I love Dog Soldiers but, you know, the clue was kinda in the name. They should have called it "There Is No Spoon" to confuse people into thinking that it's a Matrix sequel. or 'Soldiers Soldiers' to make people think it was the movie version of the Robson & Jerome thing |
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Post by rawshark on Apr 16, 2024 13:37:40 GMT
Of Dusk 'til Dawn, my older brother once described it to a friend by saying "It starts off all arty farty, but don't worry cos it gets good."
The Croydon education system at work, there.
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Post by Dougs on Apr 16, 2024 13:40:56 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 16, 2024 13:43:28 GMT
I'd love to know his opinion of other Tarantino scripted stuff if he calls the introduction of the Gecko brothers arty-farty.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 16, 2024 13:48:14 GMT
I'm not sure I'd describe the first bit as 'arty' given the amount of swears, tension and people getting their heads blown off before the credits even roll  |
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Post by simple on Apr 16, 2024 13:53:01 GMT
I’m curious at what point he thinks it gets good
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Post by rawshark on Apr 16, 2024 13:56:52 GMT
I'd love to know his opinion of other Tarantino scripted stuff if he calls the introduction of the Gecko brothers arty-farty. I literally know the shot he's referring to when he said that... The quick cut to the dead body of the hostage on the bed - that is what my then teenage brother classed as "arty". Worthy of the Guggenheim. |
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 16, 2024 13:57:03 GMT
I’m curious at what point he thinks it gets good
When Salma shows up probably. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 16, 2024 13:57:56 GMT
Now I've watched the first 10 minutes of From Dusk Til Dawn even more times!
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Post by simple on Apr 16, 2024 14:01:44 GMT
I'd love to know his opinion of other Tarantino scripted stuff if he calls the introduction of the Gecko brothers arty-farty. I literally know the shot he's referring to when he said that... The quick cut to the dead body of the hostage on the bed - that is what my then teenage brother classed as "arty". Worthy of the Guggenheim. |
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 16, 2024 14:06:09 GMT
May have owned that Swamp Thing t-shirt in my youth...
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Post by mrpon on Apr 16, 2024 14:21:52 GMT
Ha! Was just thinking of that very scene!!
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Post by rawshark on Apr 16, 2024 14:26:13 GMT
I literally know the shot he's referring to when he said that... The quick cut to the dead body of the hostage on the bed - that is what my then teenage brother classed as "arty". Worthy of the Guggenheim. If he was wearing a Motley Crue t-shirt that would have been uncanny. |
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Post by 😎 on Apr 16, 2024 15:15:58 GMT
When I worked at Blockbusters many moons ago, there were a couple of classic early noughties chavs getting super confused about the concept of a prequel. They couldn't wrap their heads around the idea of something being set before the original, but filmed after.
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 16, 2024 19:30:16 GMT
Talking of prequels...
The First Omen - in a cinema, not a Catholic church
Imagine a prequel for The Omen that's in a lot of ways similar to Rogue One was to Star Wars (it wasn't A New Hope when I saw it, I'm old), this is pretty much what The First Omen is, the sixth movie of an all over the place franchise but the first chronologically and it's actually pretty damn great.
It opens with a couple of priests (Charles Dance and Ralph Ineson) having a lovely chat in a confessional about how one part of the Catholic church is plotting the birth of the Antichrist to restore the fear that the modern world (1971) has lost and people are pretty much telling his brethren they don't give a shit about them too much. If you've seen any of the Omen films (one in particular) you have already guessed what may happen at the end of this scene as the church they're in is getting repaired at the time.
Ralph Ineson is playing Father Brennan, who will "return" in The Omen but be played by Patrick Troughton, Ralph being only 6 when the original Omen was filmed would have been a bit too young for the role then.
Meanwhile in Rome, young initiate Margaret (Nell Tiger Free, it's her real name) arrives from America to take the veil and become a full nun after living in an orphanage most of her life while being shepherded by Bill Nighy's Cardinal Lawrence through her childhood, what a lovely chap. She begins working in an orphanage as a teacher and comes across a girl that's shunned by everyone but who also seems to have a very troubled mind and she sets out to help her.
Cue lots of twists turns and some surprises, lots of very unpleasant things, jump scares, body horror, stern nuns and a lead actor that does a fantastic job as Margaret as she struggles to work out just what the fuck is going on.
The film is possibly one of the most seventies looking films I think I've seen since that decade, it's excellently shot and thumbs up to Arkasha Stevenson who directed in doing a fantastic job.
I really cannot see how the Vatican got their tailors to dress Bill Nighy, he looks great in his cardinals robes that are completely authentic but did no one in the Holy See not have a quick flick through the script? The Catholic church does not come out of the film well.
Two demonic thumbs up.
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Post by otto on Apr 16, 2024 21:02:43 GMT
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Post by Duffman5 on Apr 17, 2024 12:21:15 GMT
When I worked at Blockbusters many moons ago, there were a couple of classic early noughties chavs getting super confused about the concept of a prequel. They couldn't wrap their heads around the idea of something being set before the original, but filmed after. I worked in Ritz video (video shops were class in mid 80's onward) in 1991ish...who where taken over by blockbusters! I so wish I had taken photo's of the shop and people I worked with. So long ago now |
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Post by Duffman5 on Apr 17, 2024 12:22:22 GMT
I’m curious at what point he thinks it gets good
When Salma shows up probably. I had a mate who thought she was and I quote "too curvy" GET 2 FUK. |
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 17, 2024 12:41:01 GMT
Please make sure he directs all similarly "too curvy" women in my direction, I'll gladly suffer this fate.
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Post by askew on Apr 17, 2024 12:56:33 GMT
Death by snu-snu?
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Post by rawshark on Apr 17, 2024 12:59:58 GMT
It Tharg’s first time. BE GENTLE!!! |
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 17, 2024 13:21:44 GMT
When I worked at Blockbusters many moons ago, there were a couple of classic early noughties chavs getting super confused about the concept of a prequel. They couldn't wrap their heads around the idea of something being set before the original, but filmed after. I worked in Ritz video (video shops were class in mid 80's onward) in 1991ish...who where taken over by blockbusters! I so wish I had taken photo's of the shop and people I worked with. So long ago now I worked in a very small video shop that was located at the back of a greengrocers, Odiham was (probably still is not been there in years) a very small place so the shop did both and was the only place to rent tapes unless you really wanted to drive to Fleet. I was only 15/16 when I was doing it, the co-owner of the shop was my Mum's long term boyfriend so nepotism helped me out, I rather enjoyed it. The people were usually pretty fine and it wasn't like you'd get a crowd of teens hanging around like in my bigger town Blockbusters so it was easy work. The nearby RAF base got a fair amount of military in trying to find something a bit on the saucy side but this was the mid-eighties so pickings were slim.
One perk was being able to borrow anything I wanted, had to keep some of those viewings for when my Mum wasn't about...
Unlike Tarantino I didn't use this as a stepping stone to becoming a movie director, what a waste!
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Post by britesparc on Apr 17, 2024 14:51:44 GMT
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) **
Ugh. I never liked this, but I didn't remember it being this bad. It's totally bland and uninteresting, rushing through potentially dramatic events and meandering through boring ones. Logan, almost entirely without agency for the whole film, lurches from setup to setup, whilst Liev Scheiber glowers at him. The action is mostly dreadful, it introduces and wastes several good characters, and it chronologically doesn't make much sense. The worst X-film of my rewatch so far.
(Disney+)
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Post by Whizzo on Apr 17, 2024 14:58:15 GMT
The Wolverine is a huge improvement at least but obviously the best of his solo films is Logan.
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Post by rawshark on Apr 17, 2024 14:58:22 GMT
Yeah I remember that being my least favourite right up to the arrival of Sophie Turner.
I did like Schreiber as Creed, though.
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Post by simple on Apr 17, 2024 15:32:15 GMT
Origins is my least favourite film in the whole franchise but luckily you’re not far from First Class now
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Post by LegendaryApe on Apr 17, 2024 17:38:33 GMT
Talking of prequels...
The First Omen - in a cinema, not a Catholic church
Imagine a prequel for The Omen that's in a lot of ways similar to Rogue One was to Star Wars (it wasn't A New Hope when I saw it, I'm old), this is pretty much what The First Omen is, the sixth movie of an all over the place franchise but the first chronologically and it's actually pretty damn great.
It opens with a couple of priests (Charles Dance and Ralph Ineson) having a lovely chat in a confessional about how one part of the Catholic church is plotting the birth of the Antichrist to restore the fear that the modern world (1971) has lost and people are pretty much telling his brethren they don't give a shit about them too much. If you've seen any of the Omen films (one in particular) you have already guessed what may happen at the end of this scene as the church they're in is getting repaired at the time.
Ralph Ineson is playing Father Brennan, who will "return" in The Omen but be played by Patrick Troughton, Ralph being only 6 when the original Omen was filmed would have been a bit too young for the role then.
Meanwhile in Rome, young initiate Margaret (Nell Tiger Free, it's her real name) arrives from America to take the veil and become a full nun after living in an orphanage most of her life while being shepherded by Bill Nighy's Cardinal Lawrence through her childhood, what a lovely chap. She begins working in an orphanage as a teacher and comes across a girl that's shunned by everyone but who also seems to have a very troubled mind and she sets out to help her.
Cue lots of twists turns and some surprises, lots of very unpleasant things, jump scares, body horror, stern nuns and a lead actor that does a fantastic job as Margaret as she struggles to work out just what the fuck is going on.
The film is possibly one of the most seventies looking films I think I've seen since that decade, it's excellently shot and thumbs up to Arkasha Stevenson who directed in doing a fantastic job.
I really cannot see how the Vatican got their tailors to dress Bill Nighy, he looks great in his cardinals robes that are completely authentic but did no one in the Holy See not have a quick flick through the script? The Catholic church does not come out of the film well.
Two demonic thumbs up.
Any movie with Bill Nighy and Charles Dance in is automatically on the must-watch list. |
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Post by britesparc on Apr 17, 2024 20:25:43 GMT
Origins is my least favourite film in the whole franchise but luckily you’re not far from First Class now I was never as hot on First Class as everyone else so I'm interested to see what I think about it now. But I'm gonna watch The Wolverine next (which I've never seen!) and then - as I'm doing all the Fox films - flit over to Daredevil and Elektra before First Class. |
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