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Post by mikew1985 on Sept 29, 2021 20:55:55 GMT
He absolutely hasn't been awful. If we're measuring him to the same standard as everyone he's at least had some take ons and made good runs. Ronaldo is dead This aged well I was obviously tempted to add that he can always score. It's an issue for us though. I'll stand by that. Great result. Terrible performance |
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Post by reddevil93 on Sept 29, 2021 20:56:12 GMT
Europa League champions beaten with 3 of the back 4 out. Top stuff Ole. ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 20:56:39 GMT
Don't give a shit how we played for now, nothing beats a last minute winner.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 29, 2021 20:56:54 GMT
Butch Cassidy would have had this one framed up over his mantlepiece. Fucking hell.
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Post by dogbot on Sept 29, 2021 20:57:07 GMT
Absolute fucking robbery.
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 29, 2021 20:58:27 GMT
I was obviously tempted to add that he can always score. It's an issue for us though. I'll stand by that. Great result. Terrible performance Yeah I’m only kiddin, your point is still valid Anyway great last minute win Typical shit performance |
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Post by jono62 on Sept 29, 2021 20:59:34 GMT
Everyone is happy as Ole keeps his job, except United fans ofc.
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Post by JYM60 on Sept 29, 2021 20:59:53 GMT
I'll take that. Yeah, pretty shocking performance, especially Dalot. We got raped down his side all night.
Papering over cracks, etc. But can't complain about a win haha.
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 29, 2021 20:59:55 GMT
Everyone is happy as Ole keeps his job, except United fans ofc. This is so true |
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Post by Frog on Sept 29, 2021 21:04:44 GMT
I'm not sure you can call Ronaldo a problem. He has 5 in 5 at the moment, regardless of any other contribution we don't have anyone else that can do that.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 29, 2021 21:07:12 GMT
We really, really needed that win. With 1 point from 2 and an away game to this lot to come, I think we'd have been humming the Europa League theme tune again before long.
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Post by ryder35 on Sept 29, 2021 21:07:34 GMT
Haha. That was fun!
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Post by mikew1985 on Sept 29, 2021 21:09:34 GMT
I'm not sure you can call Ronaldo a problem. He has 5 in 5 at the moment, regardless of any other contribution we don't have anyone else that can do that. Yea, when he scores you can't say it's a problem I suppose but if you look at the performance it looks like a problem. I really should know that he just always finds a way. He's an exceptional goalscorer and he bailed us out. I think we have a strong enough team we shouldn't be reliant on bailouts |
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Post by mikew1985 on Sept 29, 2021 21:13:15 GMT
Jesus I had a great night slating telles followed by Ronaldo  |
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Post by Dougs on Sept 29, 2021 21:13:53 GMT
You can see why Emery's got these drawing so much as well. They should have fucking battered us but they shit themselves after they went 1-0 up and doubly so after we scored. Emery to a tee that. |
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 29, 2021 21:17:04 GMT
If we were a cohesive whole I'd totally agree with mike. Leaving a 36 year old, no matter what great shape he's in, on the pitch when you're looking to inject energy into a performance is madness.
But we play for the bailouts. It's our actual system. We're entirely reliant on our special players pulling something special out of the bag. It wins games like these now and again, but it's bobbins over a 38 game season or any other meaningful competition. It's the whole problem.
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 29, 2021 21:18:12 GMT
Ole looks more and more like Smeagol in lord of the rings before he goes full Gollum
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 29, 2021 21:18:46 GMT
If we were a cohesive whole I'd totally agree with mike. Leaving a 36 year old, no matter what great shape he's in, on the pitch when you're looking to inject energy into a performance is madness. But we play for the bailouts. It's our actual system. We're entirely reliant on our special players pulling something special out of the bag. It wins games like these now and again, but it's bobbins over a 38 game season or any other meaningful competition. It's the whole problem. Yeah this |
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Post by stuz359 on Sept 29, 2021 21:18:55 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for Dalot and Telles though. They either come in through injury, or when playing a second string, and meant to get up to pace straight away. Both really lack match fitness at this point and it would be difficult for any player, especially playing in defensive positions to be up to the pace straight away.
I still think both of those players would suit a wing back system better anyway, a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 so they had better cover behind. them
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 29, 2021 21:19:14 GMT
Anyway the clueless hobbit is up next
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 29, 2021 21:23:26 GMT
Same thing with van de Beek. How he's supposed to show he's worth a string of games when he's getting 14 minutes every other week is ridiculous. Especially when our midfield can't string 2 passes together. Just how shit is he?
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Post by Frog on Sept 29, 2021 21:24:28 GMT
Dalot would suit a league 1 team better, he is a complete liability.
Donny is a weird one, I think he moves the ball quite nicely and looks like he could be a good player. Ole clearly doesn't rate him though as he keeps playing those 2/3 in midfield
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Post by mikew1985 on Sept 29, 2021 21:44:25 GMT
Same thing with van de Beek. How he's supposed to show he's worth a string of games when he's getting 14 minutes every other week is ridiculous. Especially when our midfield can't string 2 passes together. Just how shit is he? He actually had a good game in the league cup last week so I don't know what he has to do to get a chance. |
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Post by JYM60 on Sept 29, 2021 21:53:33 GMT
It wins games like these now and again, but it's bobbins over a 38 game season or any other meaningful competition. It's the whole problem. 2nd in the league last season, check Choked Europa League final last season, check Currently extending record undefeated away league record, check 1 point of the top currently, check You must be expecting us to walk the league by 20 points and win everything in Europe with a different manager or something. |
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 29, 2021 21:54:35 GMT
It's one of those where he's almost tarnished in the defeat. But what are you supposed to do when you're carted out down the green mile with a bunch of squad players?
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 29, 2021 21:58:47 GMT
It wins games like these now and again, but it's bobbins over a 38 game season or any other meaningful competition. It's the whole problem. 2nd in the league last season, check Choked Europa League final last season, check Currently extending record undefeated away league record, check 1 point of the top currently, check You must be expecting us to walk the league by 20 points and win everything in Europe with a different manager or something. We play shit, diabolical football. Same as we did when Fuhrer Mourinho *checks notes* finished second and WON the Europa League. You can cart any meaningless statistic you want out (like your one about 28 shots on the weekend incidentally, acting as if we've been parked outside their goalmouth all game and not, in fact, taking potshots that were bouncing off defenders), doesn't change how shit we are for everyone to see. |
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Post by retro74 on Sept 29, 2021 22:07:14 GMT
That’s the thing for me, with the squad he’s got we should be playing some incisive and exciting football
It’s like we put 11 different players on the pitch every week
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 29, 2021 22:10:30 GMT
They genuinely look like it's their first time playing together, every week.
Anyway, let's not turn another thread into a United PTSD zone. At least until Everton outclass us on the weekend.
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Post by JYM60 on Sept 29, 2021 22:10:42 GMT
I don't agree that it is as bad to watch as with Mourinho. It isn't the same. We were defensive team who barely attacked. Now we just attack pretty poorly a lot. LVG even worse. You obviously remember it differently.
Sure there are some that are as rubbish as with Mourinho. Tonight for example. Though honestly, Mourinho would have defended tonight with our whole team and try and nick a 1-0. That's what he did every match in the Europa League regardless of who we played.
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Post by mikew1985 on Sept 29, 2021 22:21:51 GMT
I agree with that. Jose era was even worse than that stuff tonight. Ddg hoofing it became a constant irritant for me and would set me off as we inevitably list possession again.
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