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Post by Dougs on Sept 27, 2021 9:55:26 GMT
 He was good as Stan, but obviously that's a comedic role anyway. Definitely brave of him to try. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2021 10:16:34 GMT
I would like to believe they're going to expose the enablers, but who would they name, how would it be portrayed? It's definitely a very important story but I have no faith it will be done in a way that won't be a hand in heads moment, especially when you take into account Saville himself was a character that he created as a mask, seeing it in a dramatisation has the high possiblity of coming off as very crass. I'm more than happy to be proved wrong when it comes out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 10:18:03 GMT
He's got the noise nailed anyway
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2021 10:19:34 GMT
Classic
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Post by Matt A on Sept 27, 2021 10:21:13 GMT
I've no idea how you could do this in such a way that it doesn't make it a joke. Saville was like a walking pantomime so it will probably end up looking like someone doing a parody impression.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 27, 2021 10:34:32 GMT
This is why I think Coogan is a good choice. He was a walking pantomime in his professional life and Coogan can obviously nail that but I think he has got the chops to just flick the switch to evil sex pest. I genuinely think he will nail it.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Sept 27, 2021 10:40:17 GMT
I've no idea how you could do this in such a way that it doesn't make it a joke. Saville was like a walking pantomime so it will probably end up looking like someone doing a parody impression. Just have droning dissonant note in the soundtrack whilst Saville is being a clown and it'll create a powerful sense of dread. The longer the note the greater the dread. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 10:40:22 GMT
I might be being a bit cynical, but this sounds like the BBC getting in with their view of things before anyone else gets in with a more damaging version. Hopefully I'm wrong and Coogan wouldn't be in something like that.
/Edit though there's been long enough for others to do something like this, so maybe not.
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Post by Matt A on Sept 27, 2021 10:56:15 GMT
Accentuate the ingenuity and ability to operate of Saville so as to limit the responsibility of the people that facilitated him you mean?
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Sept 27, 2021 11:10:33 GMT
I don't think Coogan will be the problem, I think he'll be very decent in the role. It's more how willing they are to go into the root and branch stuff as mentioned by others. If they are then it's definitely a story worth telling. I'd be really surprised to see them going for anything other than the low hanging fruit though.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2021 11:20:13 GMT
Very true. I mean who's going to play Esther Rantzen???
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 27, 2021 11:22:46 GMT
Gillian Anderson
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 11:28:01 GMT
Reece Shearsmith as Gary Glitter.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2021 11:28:03 GMT
No,no, no. I can't be fancying Esther Rantzen. That's not right.
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Post by Techno Hippy on Sept 27, 2021 11:38:24 GMT
Now then. Was the cigar his way of making sure he'd fit?
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Post by Chopsen on Sept 27, 2021 11:40:35 GMT
Reece Shearsmith as Gary Glitter. Now *that* I'd watch. |
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Post by mrpon on Sept 27, 2021 11:44:28 GMT
Mark Gatiss surely?! It's a shit business!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 12:08:35 GMT
So basically just League of Gentlemen but all the characters are British celebrity sex offenders.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 27, 2021 12:11:33 GMT
That doesn't sound a million miles away from something they might have pitched before League of Gentlemen got picked up.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Sept 27, 2021 13:12:24 GMT
I think from the perspective of victims, it's just really insensitive. I can imagine hearing about Coogan's incredible performance as Jimmy Savile being very upsetting. If it's being created to shine a light on the enablers, etc, don't do it in a way that has the potential for being lauded for the wrong reasons.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Sept 27, 2021 13:31:11 GMT
So basically just League of Gentlemen but all the characters are British celebrity sex offenders. Sounds like a noncier version of Stella Street. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Sept 27, 2021 13:46:26 GMT
I do like that even now most people still spell his name wrong. Hopefully the new BBC thing won't change that
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Post by Dougs on Sept 27, 2021 13:50:41 GMT
No,no, no. I can't be fancying Esther Rantzen. That's not right. You're already fancying Thatcher though. |
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Post by Dougs on Sept 27, 2021 13:52:47 GMT
Mark Gatiss surely?! It's a shit business!! Poor Les. |
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Post by mrpon on Sept 27, 2021 13:56:30 GMT
The popped collar deflation is a classic, I'm sure Alastair approves.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 13:59:08 GMT
I've just remembered I'd actually drawn a picture of him back in the early days if anyone would like to see it. It's not my proudest moment.
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Post by Matt A on Sept 27, 2021 14:11:20 GMT
Yeah post it.
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Post by Kay on Sept 27, 2021 14:18:40 GMT
Coogan is the perfect choice imo, but I also feel it's kinda still a bit too soon and a tad insensitive for the BBC to make their own drama - starring someone who is primarily known as a comedian and satirist - considering all the backlash they've received over the past decade for covering up his crimes?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 14:20:43 GMT
I was going through some stuff at the time but here
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Post by Matt A on Sept 27, 2021 14:23:07 GMT
very talented
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