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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 13, 2022 0:38:16 GMT
You can get those Transient Curse items from the pot at the start of the area. If you need more, the ghosts drop them
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Post by malek86 on Mar 13, 2022 7:42:39 GMT
It's a good idea to run around New Londo with the Covetous Gold Serpent Ring (if you don't have it, you can find it fairly close to the beginning of Sen's Fortress, so you might as well go there first and grab it - and then just get out if you so wish, there are no bonfires between the ring and the Undead Parish so you can just Homeward Bone your way out). With the ring equipped, the ghosts are likely to drop more Transient Curses than you'll ever need.
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Post by steifybobbins on Mar 13, 2022 9:59:51 GMT
Wow thank you everyone. I might try the fortress first it sounds like both of my options at this point are tricky. I'm trying not to give up as I have done so many times before. At this point I've played Dark Souls for hundreds of hours over the years and this is far as I've gotten. Weirdly despite that I still kind of love it. I've been this way since Demon Souls. Barely got anywhere in that but it just got it's hooks into me
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Post by steifybobbins on Mar 13, 2022 10:01:54 GMT
I will say that I think the incessant poisoning in blightown and now the cursing is not cool and pretty shitty design that seems to want to frustrate rather than challenge you
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 13, 2022 10:06:32 GMT
I will say that I think the incessant poisoning in blightown and now the cursing is not cool and pretty shitty design that seems to want to frustrate rather than challenge you They aren't that bad once you know what you're doing. The poison area in Dark Souls 3 is much worse. I don't think they add anything or enjoy them |
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Post by zagibu on Mar 13, 2022 18:50:23 GMT
I managed to beat Ornstein. Used all my flask charges and about 7 humanity in addition. Almost never managed to dodge his charged spear skewer bullshit. But it seems the best bet is to just always hug his legs and quickly roll away when he does the Smough move. At least this way he mostly couldn't hit me with his other bullshit moves and I was able to get a hit in here and there.
Not sure how you guys manage without a shield, though, would have been impossible without an Eagle Shield +5.
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Post by malek86 on Mar 13, 2022 20:05:30 GMT
I managed to beat Ornstein. Used all my flask charges and about 7 humanity in addition. Almost never managed to dodge his charged spear skewer bullshit. But it seems the best bet is to just always hug his legs and quickly roll away when he does the Smough move. At least this way he mostly couldn't hit me with his other bullshit moves and I was able to get a hit in here and there. Not sure how you guys manage without a shield, though, would have been impossible without an Eagle Shield +5. Dark Souls is not hard without a shield. Bosses have tons of downtime after an attack, and their attacks are usually very predictable. Basically, as long as you can i-roll through a swipe or whatever, you are going to do lots of damage. Much more than if you used a shield, since your stamina will be left almost intact. Gwyn is the only real issue. I always summon for him. The DLC bosses on the other hand seem specifically designed to prevent that strategy. They all attack relentlessly (pretty much on par with Gwyn) and jump away as soon as they are done, giving you very little time to counteract. Base DS2 was similar to the first game again, while the DLC and then all of the subsequent games were also designed in the other way, which might be another reason why I never really got into them. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 13, 2022 22:41:08 GMT
I just stopped using shield in DS games at some point and can't see the point in using one now - the idea of standing there taking hits just seems weird now. Some attacks you just need to get used to spotting so you can back off as quickly as possible to avoid (Manus' big combo attack, Ornstein's lighting - I think he's vulnerable for ages after that one)
Gwyn is the only boss I parry - it's pretty easy and turns him into a joke
I think most DS2 bosses are really easy either way, one of the downsides to the game. The DLC bosses are better but everything is doable without a shield. I'm probably better than average at From games but not doing level 1 runs or anything like that
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Post by puddleduck on Mar 13, 2022 22:49:22 GMT
Wow thank you everyone. I might try the fortress first it sounds like both of my options at this point are tricky. I'm trying not to give up as I have done so many times before. At this point I've played Dark Souls for hundreds of hours over the years and this is far as I've gotten. Weirdly despite that I still kind of love it. I've been this way since Demon Souls. Barely got anywhere in that but it just got it's hooks into me I'd definitely recommend doing Sens then the area after it next. |
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Post by zagibu on Mar 13, 2022 23:28:03 GMT
Some attacks you just need to get used to spotting so you can back off as quickly as possible to avoid (Manus' big combo attack, Ornstein's lighting - I think he's vulnerable for ages after that one) Might be, but I don't have the patience to learn them. If I can't beat a boss in 10 tries, I might try for another couple, but then I just give up. There are way too many games on my backlist to keep banging my head against a particular part in any single game without progress. |
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Post by Danno on Mar 13, 2022 23:32:21 GMT
I managed to beat Ornstein. Used all my flask charges and about 7 humanity in addition. Almost never managed to dodge his charged spear skewer bullshit. But it seems the best bet is to just always hug his legs and quickly roll away when he does the Smough move. At least this way he mostly couldn't hit me with his other bullshit moves and I was able to get a hit in here and there. Not sure how you guys manage without a shield, though, would have been impossible without an Eagle Shield +5. Pfffff Eagle Shield is so 1.0. (Good job)  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 20:54:03 GMT
So, someone has beaten Dark Souls using nothing but dung, you utter bunch of abject noobheadfaces!!!11!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 21:11:37 GMT
Not even upgraded dung! Just base dung!!1!1!
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Post by zagibu on Mar 15, 2022 21:50:19 GMT
No shield, just dung?
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 15, 2022 22:02:35 GMT
I watched the stream - it was shit
It was shit
Shit from start to finish
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 15, 2022 22:04:15 GMT
I just started a DS1 playthrough. Just got past the first boss - easy peasy without a shield
I did die twice (both times to the Black Knight) but I was also playing without sound
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Post by zagibu on Mar 16, 2022 10:56:07 GMT
Yeah, on my first character ever I played until O&S without shield. But I couldn't win over O&S this way, so from then on I just used a shield for everything.
Not sure how you're supposed to kill Nito or Manus without a shield.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 16, 2022 11:00:18 GMT
Nito is a piece of piss. Don't think I ever had trouble with him
Manus just has that one attack. I think it might be better to step back than try and roll out of the way of it - can't quite remember - but I don't remember anything else about him being too bad. Maybe a magic attack?
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 16, 2022 11:05:23 GMT
Turn Manus into a pincushion from outside his arena, Demon's Souls Maneater style. Boom, no-shield Manus
Disclaimer: I have no clue where I need to be to actually do the above
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Post by malek86 on Mar 16, 2022 12:51:48 GMT
Yeah, on my first character ever I played until O&S without shield. But I couldn't win over O&S this way, so from then on I just used a shield for everything. Not sure how you're supposed to kill Nito or Manus without a shield. Nito's attacks take ages to hit, and then he stands still for five centuries. If there's one boss who will not kill you, it's Nito. Only his flunkies might be an issue, but even that is unlikely. Manus on the other hand, that guy is a pain indeed. But then I'm sure he's a pain with a shield too. Better summon, or kite him from outside. |
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Post by zagibu on Mar 16, 2022 13:39:25 GMT
Only his flunkies might be an issue, but even that is unlikely. That is exactly why I need a shield. Although I guess wearing armor with high poise might also work, or maybe even work better. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 16, 2022 13:51:54 GMT
Only his flunkies might be an issue, but even that is unlikely. That is exactly why I need a shield. Although I guess wearing armor with high poise might also work, or maybe even work better. Put them down with a Blessed weapon first and then deal with Nito on his own |
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Post by malek86 on Mar 16, 2022 14:05:24 GMT
I find skeletons very predictable, but that's just me. Even without a shield, dealing with two or even three of them is not really a big deal imho.
Now, if Nito had been smart, he'd have surrounded himself with a couple of those four-legged skeletons, which would have made him the hardest boss in the game.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 16, 2022 14:07:35 GMT
If video game enemies were smart, we'd all be in trouble
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Post by zagibu on Mar 16, 2022 14:24:53 GMT
Put them down with a Blessed weapon first and then deal with Nito on his own Doesn't he summon new ones all the time? I have a divine claymore +10, and it seemed there were always new ones coming. Not sure, though, might have been mistaken. |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 16, 2022 15:08:23 GMT
Pretty sure he doesn't
And, yes, I meant Divine. Couldn't for the life of me think of the correct term!
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Post by retro74 on Mar 16, 2022 15:19:41 GMT
100% he doesn’t summon more but there some at the back of the room that don’t move until you move towards them
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Post by zagibu on Mar 16, 2022 15:33:53 GMT
Ok, good to know.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 16, 2022 16:39:28 GMT
I've got Elden Ring
I'm not going anywhere near that thread because I imagine there's spoilers and jizz all over the show so I'm saying it here. I've got it
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 16, 2022 16:54:32 GMT
We've been mostly good about tagging spoilers tbh, what few managed to slip through are very minor and without any context...
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