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Post by ๐ on Nov 19, 2021 20:14:09 GMT
Zimmerman was due to speak at a hotel near here at a gun conference, when they found out who was speaking they cancelled the whole thing. Iโm mildly impressed given how red and gun friendly this state is.
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Post by Danno on Nov 19, 2021 20:18:56 GMT
Some comparisons happening with the Casey Anthony case from a while ago, especially with regards to the wrong charges being filed. Itโs being argued that lower charges (second degree or manslaughter) could have been a prosecutorial slam dunk, and that first degree is often too difficult to prove without overwhelming evidence. The jurors in the Anthony case all basically said โwe donโt think sheโs innocent but thereโs not enough proof for the chargeโ, Iโm wondering if weโll see similar comments here. Why the actual fuck are those not an option/weren't they filed? He has killed people and he is not going to be incarcerated. Make it make sense (This is rhetorical, obviously)
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Post by Lukus on Nov 19, 2021 20:20:53 GMT
THEY WERE COMING RIGHT AT ME
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Post by Tomo on Nov 19, 2021 20:21:00 GMT
Just read the headline... Can't remember the last time I felt so shocked by one. What the fuck.
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Post by Danno on Nov 19, 2021 20:26:29 GMT
Just read the headline... Can't remember the last time I felt so shocked by one. What the fuck. And the cycle will no doubt continue, with a whole bunch of other little incels emboldened to wander into something they have no idea about, empathy with, or business being around other than "wahhh I hate it", while wielding a weapon of mass murder. Well done America
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Post by simple on Nov 19, 2021 20:40:13 GMT
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 19, 2021 20:44:17 GMT
Given that it's perfectly legal in the US to shoot people dead if they look at you the wrong way, this is the correct outcome, no?
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Post by ๐ on Nov 19, 2021 20:44:39 GMT
Thatโs a satire site.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 19, 2021 20:45:27 GMT
That's a satirical website no?
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Post by ozthegweat on Nov 19, 2021 20:55:54 GMT
CNN says he didn't bring that gun across state lines but stayed at some friends in Wisconsin who bought the gun for him. Don't know if that's better. "Did you bring that with you from Illinois?" - "Nah, it's was a gift from locals."
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Post by simple on Nov 19, 2021 21:15:09 GMT
So premeditation?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 19, 2021 21:21:19 GMT
No hE wAs BeInG a PaTrIoT.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2021 21:21:25 GMT
/checks if any of Quaddy's band members have made it into this thread yet.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 19, 2021 21:21:50 GMT
No, but because he didn't, there wasn't, you can't. Muh rights! Also, did anyone mention that an AR-15 isn't actually an automatic and is great for target shooting and hunting!?
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Post by simple on Nov 19, 2021 21:22:10 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Nov 19, 2021 21:46:10 GMT
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Post by eleven63 on Nov 19, 2021 22:00:45 GMT
Fuck me. The big, massive, fucked up problem this creates is the precedent, now in law. With a right wing Supreme court...
Good luck.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 19, 2021 22:10:59 GMT
I don't think precedent will be a problem as it's a verdict on the case itself. It does open the door a bit though I guess.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 22, 2021 6:46:37 GMT
5 killed in Wisconsin after a car ploughs into a Christmas parade.
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Post by askew on Nov 22, 2021 11:18:39 GMT
Grim. What's with the weasel words in this extract (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/22/several-injured-after-car-speeds-through-christmas-parade-in-wisconsin-reports)?
It either does or it doesn't, right?
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Post by khanivor on Nov 22, 2021 11:44:03 GMT
Begun, the War on Christmas, has.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 22, 2021 11:46:04 GMT
From the sound of the earliest reports it was a vehicle involved in a police chase and seems to be an accident rather than an attack.
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Post by Tonka (๐,๐ชค) on Nov 22, 2021 12:34:46 GMT
That well and truly sucks if true.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 22, 2021 12:37:01 GMT
Unconfirmed at this stage, but it's on the BBC report as well as the US one I read this morning:
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Post by cubby on Nov 22, 2021 13:17:37 GMT
If the driver wanted to cause maximum carnage they'd have begun running people over much sooner down the road, from the footage I've seen.
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Post by lexw on Nov 23, 2021 12:49:56 GMT
Yeah it seems like this guy was a total asshole who was fleeing after committing some domestic violence (not for the first time), probably had no real idea about the parade existing (he seems like a moron from his social media), was quite likely was drunk/high, and thought he could just hurtle down that route, but then got to the point where the parade filled the whole route, and decided not to stop. He certainly didn't appear to aim for maximum damage, but rather driving through anyone in his way of getting where he was going. Which is still horrifying but at least means this terrorist stuff is all gibber.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 19:00:47 GMT
Thank Christ after the Rittenhouse debacle.
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Post by peekconfusion on Nov 24, 2021 19:21:05 GMT
Good to know America isn't completely beyond redemption.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 24, 2021 20:00:18 GMT
Gotta love the defendants' claim of self defense against a man in joggers running away from them as they chased after him in a truck while armed with a shotgun. Absolute shitstains of humanity right there. Also love their barely coded language of a black man running around as being 'frightening' and 'unsettling'.
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Post by X201 on Dec 1, 2021 7:10:00 GMT
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