Domestic and International 'Nutter Runs Amok' Thread

It's amazing how many people seem to go to bat for these guys. Trying to somewhat defend their corner makes you a defender of clear cut racism. What the fuck is wrong with people?!

3 kids as well. Fucking arsehole.

Maybe a fair number of rioters don't actively identify with the far-right, but they're still allowing themselves to be whipped into a frenzy by noted scumbags like Fox, Musk, Yaxley-Lennon, and Farage.

Maybe it's just me, but before I grabbed my 12-pack of Strongbow, my favourite balaclava, and a dozen or so bricks, I'd do a few seconds' worth of online research to see who the chief agitators were.

But what if the internet was down, my phone was flat, or I was in a hurry to catch the next bus?

Say I somehow ended up at a far-right rally/riot/'protest' without knowing what I was getting into.

Perhaps I'd heard about what happened in Stockport, decided that on balance I was opposed to kids being stabbed to death, and opted on a whim to pop into town with a view to attending a vigil of some sort.

I like to think it wouldn't take me long to realise what kind of company I was in.

Kind of hard to look around at the FASHion on display - English flags, swastika tattoos, jackboots, camo, etc. - and hear the chants of, "Take our country back!", and not cotton onto the fact that you'd fucked up massively.

If you know you're getting into bed with vermin like the above-named individuals, and do it anyway, you deserve whatever you get.

I don't think there's any excuse for falling for populism and demagoguery in the internet age, when you have all that information at your fingertips.

Sure, it's easy to end up in an echo chamber - and I'm as guilty of that as anyone else - but when you're at risk of crossing the line into outright criminality, you owe it to everyone (yourself included!) to get your facts straight first.

I don't think it would take a particularly complex venn diagram to see the correlation between the far right nutjobs of the last few weeks and the most vocal anti-vax/anti-mask people during the pandemic.

It's quite ironic that the most easily brainwashed and manipulated section of society projects that weakness as if it's everyone else that isn't capable of critical thought.

The insidious bordering evil element to it all is the right wing hacks and politicians projecting this far right rhetoric to the masses and creating this hate, clearly don't believe a single word they're saying. It's purely a means to whatever their own personal goals are, whether ambition or wealth.

I've zero sympathy for anyone caught at these "protests" as already said, as soon as mosques and hotels were attacked it was clear what they were.

That said, alot of people are gullible. Whether age, or just a genuine lack of intelligence. So much so some truely believe Farage is a stand up guy, who talks like the everyman and tells it like it is.. And TR just a fella brave enough to stand up.

So while that doesn't excuse the idiots, it does sting that the ringleaders behind it ala Farage get to simply treat it as another say at the office.

Well, that post has given me some new stuff to Google.

/Unzips

It's really nothing new. Yer auld da thought whoever you talked about was a bag of wank too.

People just like echo chambers, and they're a lot easier to find today. With content driven algorithms it's almost impossible to avoid.

Paypigs? Well you learn something new everyday.

Well I suppose they now realise we don’t have free speech in the uk.

Impressive that the police and the courts have just gone ahead and arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced these people, all without politicians needing to jump up and down in parliament telling everyone that they don't have the necessary powers to deal with these people. It's almost as if we actually already do have all these laws in place and we don't need to start creating new ones that open up potential for abuse.

In regards to this being a lot of the gullible and not really targeting the real instigators of this, unfortunately it feels like swift justice needs to take the place of dealing with the root cause of the issue. Hopefully, that will come, and the media and social networks are going to get a rude wake-up call forcing them to get their act together. However, in order get the rioting to stop the last thing we need is someone like Fox, who has clearly said things that would cross the line into hate speech and inciting violence, to drag out a court case that will be all over the media for weeks on end.

It helps that last time there was widespread rioting the head of the CPS who drew who this speedy prosecution protocol is now the Prime Minister I suppose

The fash rally and counter-protest in Newcastle both had their locations moved by the Police so instead of being at the Monument in the middle of town they’re now down the Bigg Market.

Looks like a decent turn out at the counter and another bottle job by the far-right.

I am looking forward to the media and the politicians taking note of the much larger groups that came out for the counter protests, who were holding up signs saying "refugees welcome" and celebrating the work immigrants contribute to the essential services in our country. That should make them reconsider the rhetoric around the debate, right?