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Post by simple on May 19, 2023 10:42:04 GMT
So refugees and students who are more likely than not to leave at the end of their study?
Even if you think immigration is bad neither of those are drivers of the things you’re probably afraid of.
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Post by Dougs on May 19, 2023 10:45:19 GMT
Also not terribly good for the economy if you force highly qualified post-grads to leave and don't let (often also highly qualified) refugees work. It's all so backwards
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Post by Whizzo on May 19, 2023 10:53:09 GMT
Probably best not to put xenophobic zealots in charge of a country if you want a sensible immigration policy.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 19, 2023 11:47:53 GMT
FFS, get behind Rishi, do you not love your country? He's going to grow inflation, half growth, sink the NHS, stop the National Debt and increase the boats! It's what normal patriotic hard working tax payers want, and it's what he's focussing on doing, for the people. Unlike Keir Corbyn and the SNP with their radical leftist hard working patriotic tax payer hate. Sorry I would get behind Rishi, but unfortunately he isn't...how do we say..."compatible" with the culture and values of this country.
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Post by Dougs on May 19, 2023 11:54:25 GMT
In other news.
Insert Helen Lovejoy gif here.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 19, 2023 11:57:35 GMT
What is about accounts with blue checks being so... exhausting?
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 11:57:51 GMT
Also not terribly good for the economy if you force highly qualified post-grads to leave and don't let (often also highly qualified) refugees work. It's all so backwards This. One of my refugee group is a fucking construction project manager who, I gather, was pretty well respected in her field over in Mariupol. Can she get a job? Can she bollocks. Best she's been told is to work in Subway. It's all so fucking insulting.
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Post by technoish on May 19, 2023 11:59:18 GMT
I reckon we might go private by secondary time, if we don't move, but i reckon I would still rather burn the whole private education system down.
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 12:02:31 GMT
Why private? No guarantee of success really. Better spending the money just moving to a better school catchment area
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on May 19, 2023 12:06:52 GMT
We went to see a Private school the other day...very impressive.
The wife insists we send our little one to a private school, cause neither of us had the opportunity.
I do keep reminding her that we've both had great Uni education and Jobs "despite" our state schooling. Deaf ears.
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 19, 2023 12:26:06 GMT
That family look very smug. I'm sure they might be good people, I don't know, but they look very, very, smug with themselves. Smug.
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Post by X201 on May 19, 2023 12:29:43 GMT
We went to see a Private school the other day...very impressive. The wife insists we send our little one to a private school, cause neither of us had the opportunity. I do keep reminding her that we've both had great Uni education and Jobs "despite" our state schooling. Deaf ears. Do what Geefe said, at least you get a house and the possibility of a Waitrose.
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Post by sport✅ on May 19, 2023 12:30:27 GMT
I've insisted on home schooling my kids. It's the only way to protect them from the woke agenda.
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Post by technoish on May 19, 2023 12:47:25 GMT
Why private? No guarantee of success really. Better spending the money just moving to a better school catchment area The real reason for private is generally for the peer group / community. But equally some private schools are going to be absolutely awful for that too. The primary school we are at now isn't very old and was set up by parents as is very sought after by a fairly international set, which matches our background (most entries are through a lottery). But for secondary schools the options near us are not great - I believe half of kids in the borough have to travel to another borough to get a spot...) And for private co-ed it's not super either. And when it comes to moving, that's going to be spaffing like £60k just on stamp duty, not taking into account the wider moving / purchase costs.
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Post by dogbot on May 19, 2023 12:50:00 GMT
That family look very smug. I'm sure they might be good people, I don't know, but they look very, very, smug with themselves. Smug. Won't somebody think of the poor middle classes!
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Post by Whizzo on May 19, 2023 13:14:43 GMT
I've got no real problem with public schools existing but they're not charities in any form so shouldn't have that status. Having said that blowing up Eton may not be such a bad idea.
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Post by Dougs on May 19, 2023 13:17:54 GMT
Primary schools tend to be decent for the most part. If I could afford it, then I would consider public schools for secondary, but we can't, so it's all moot.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 19, 2023 13:22:36 GMT
They should be banned. At the very least they shouldnt be charities and at the very, very least they should have to follow the national curriculum.
We shouldnt have a two laned education system in this country if we ever want to move past our tiered system of accepting peasantry.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on May 19, 2023 13:24:40 GMT
They're not a charity. That I have never got.
Makes no fucking sense especially when some of them are literally run by large companies.
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Post by Dougs on May 19, 2023 13:30:39 GMT
The last few years have shown us, if nothing else, that the powers that be want us to Know Our Place. And are doing everything possible to wind back thr clock and keep us there.
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Post by dogbot on May 19, 2023 13:42:27 GMT
Two for fruit picking training, right here.
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Post by clemfandango on May 19, 2023 13:50:39 GMT
All you southerners calling them public schools... They are known as Private schools up here, because that actually makes sense.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 19, 2023 13:59:03 GMT
Doesn't it come from way way back when there were no state schools, and upper class people were all privately tutored, so something that was open to everyone (who could afford it) was considered a public school?
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 14:08:44 GMT
They should be banned. At the very least they shouldnt be charities and at the very, very least they should have to follow the national curriculum. We shouldnt have a two laned education system in this country if we ever want to move past our tiered system of accepting peasantry. Absolutely. I am in favour of a diverse curriculum and things like grammar schools existing, so long as they're balanced out by schools that cater to kids who aren't academic and are never going to get 5 GCSEs, so why make them do 10 they hate? But public schools and private exist for one reason only - to split up the herd. Having taught a range of kids, including those very well off, I can tell you that money doesn't make them smarter. It just means they have more opportunities to fuck up.
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Post by geefe on May 19, 2023 14:09:48 GMT
All you southerners calling them public schools... They are known as Private schools up here, because that actually makes sense. Public schools refers to a fairly specific subset. While the terms are interchangeable, Harrow, Eton and Rugby are vastly different to your standard £12k a year private.
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Post by technoish on May 19, 2023 15:16:49 GMT
I'm not sure the issue here at hand really is whether charities or not - isn't it whether core education should have VAT on it or not.
E.g children's clothes have zero rate of vat on them, whether sold by a grubby corporation or a charity.
Adult clothes do have vat on them, including when sold by a charity.
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Post by simple on May 19, 2023 15:25:34 GMT
Are these schools ‘core’ education?
I’m sure there is state provision nearby that can be accessed for free rather than using one of these tax exempt for-profit schools/“charities”
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Post by Reviewer on May 19, 2023 15:37:57 GMT
Private schools certainly shouldn’t get any tax payer related benefits or tax breaks. If rich people want to pay for it then it’s hard to argue that shouldn’t happen unless private tuition is going to be banned along with any other out of school activities people pay for.
At the same time, tax the rich cunts more and spend it on better education for everyone.
Anyone that goes to Eton and/or Oxbridge should be banned from being PM as well.
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Post by Whizzo on May 19, 2023 15:58:12 GMT
Announced just in time to spoil the start of the weekend, the Johnson's are having another kid because more of that cunt's offspring is what the world needs.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 19, 2023 16:01:02 GMT
But public schools and private exist for one reason only - to split up the herd. Having taught a range of kids, including those very well off, I can tell you that money doesn't make them smarter. It just means they have more opportunities to fuck up. Arguably its worst aspect, the instillation of a completely unearned sense of entitlement and superiority, has been brought to a head these last few years. An avalanche of expensively educated fuckwits grinding this country into the earth, high on the smell of their own farts and the absolute conviction they know better than anyone. If nothing else, eton should be firebombed and concreted over.
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