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Post by X201 on Feb 15, 2024 18:20:55 GMT
So, how long until Hunt starts mentioning that he can ‘see the green shoots of economic recovery’?
(Older members of the forum are allowed a wry smile or two)
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Post by stuz359 on Feb 15, 2024 19:59:29 GMT
So, how long until Hunt starts mentioning that he can ‘see the green shoots of economic recovery’? (Older members of the forum are allowed a wry smile or two) This is fun. It's been 16 years since the global financial crash and nothing substantially has changed. Wages have remained stagnant or gone backwards whilst the returns to capital has gone through the roof. Any analysis of GDP growth is meaningless unless you calculate where the growth has gone to. GDP has grown, but who have the returns gone to? It's really interesting from about 1980 to 2020 the emerging economies captured 12% of global growth, that's including China. The middle, flat until you hit the 99.9999% percentile is almost flat. That top 0.0001% got 27% of global GDP growth. So they captured more than double the growth of the bottom 50% That's what's wrong.
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Post by zephro on Feb 15, 2024 22:57:54 GMT
GDP per capita has actually gone down for 7 quarters in a row now.
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Post by elstoof on Feb 15, 2024 23:08:37 GMT
That’s only because the capita has increased thanks to Labour doing nothing to stop small boat crossings
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Post by X201 on Feb 15, 2024 23:19:08 GMT
Gross profit per Capita contract is up by millions
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Post by eleven63 on Feb 15, 2024 23:34:48 GMT
So, how long until Hunt starts mentioning that he can ‘see the green shoots of economic recovery’? (Older members of the forum are allowed a wry smile or two) This is fun. It's been 16 years since the global financial crash and nothing substantially has changed. Wages have remained stagnant or gone backwards whilst the returns to capital has gone through the roof. Any analysis of GDP growth is meaningless unless you calculate where the growth has gone to. GDP has grown, but who have the returns gone to? It's really interesting from about 1980 to 2020 the emerging economies captured 12% of global growth, that's including China. The middle, flat until you hit the 99.9999% percentile is almost flat. That top 0.0001% got 27% of global GDP growth. So they captured more than double the growth of the bottom 50% That's what's wrong. Bear with a little brain here. So, the rich got richer and the less well off got/are fucked?
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Post by Saul1138 on Feb 16, 2024 0:54:16 GMT
No, the rich got richer, but could have been even richer than that. The poor are always fucked. Something, something, super wealthy pay more tax, so deserve a cut.
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Post by Saul1138 on Feb 16, 2024 2:00:19 GMT
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 16, 2024 3:01:17 GMT
Conservatives down 20%, but it seems like that's gone about equally to Labour and the Reform.
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Post by minimatt on Feb 16, 2024 5:08:22 GMT
the message the twats will take from overnight results will undoubtedly be "we need to move further to the right to counter threat from reform" rather than "we need move back to the centre to counter threat from labour"
2nd message will be "we need more austerity to fund tax cuts for rich to get us out of recession" rather than "austerity to get us out of last recession is why we're in the shit now"
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Post by technoish on Feb 16, 2024 6:17:04 GMT
Definitely a seismic result, no matter how much some might try to paint it as a fluke.
We could see Sunak in trouble now.
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Post by geefe on Feb 16, 2024 6:22:34 GMT
That is pretty huge. They lost Wellingborough as well, in a nearly 30% shift. Bone had been MP since the Blair 05 election.
I don't think they expected to lose both so much.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 16, 2024 6:25:57 GMT
Apparently Labour had a bigger majority in Kingswood back in the Blair days, but that was without Reform playing disruptor I guess.
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Post by Rich on Feb 16, 2024 6:55:39 GMT
Once again this shows how much the country doesn't want an election and just wants Rishi to get on with the job.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 16, 2024 7:03:48 GMT
-37.6%!
It's interesting that the Lib Dems went down a little in both places. I wonder if their normal voters were voting tactically.
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Post by geefe on Feb 16, 2024 7:07:03 GMT
Once again this shows how much the country doesn't want an election and just wants Rishi to get on with the job. Moggy has been about trying to say this all morning
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Post by Rich on Feb 16, 2024 7:14:58 GMT
Today's spin headlines:
Huge progress for Reform Voter's protesting against Tory something something Two landslide victories highlight the mistakes Starmer is making, by Owen Jones
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Post by Vortex on Feb 16, 2024 8:08:04 GMT
Once again this shows how much the country doesn't want an election and just wants Rishi to get on with the job. Moggy has been about trying to say this all morning Just seen him trying to play it down claiming reform & tories combined got more than labour, so they didn't get 50% of the vote. That's not how it works. 🤣 Clutch those straws motherfucker, hope you're all gone soon.
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Post by elstoof on Feb 16, 2024 8:39:14 GMT
Mogg currently in negotiation with the Speaker about the possibility of forming a coalition constituency
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 16, 2024 8:51:48 GMT
Moggy has been about trying to say this all morning Just seen him trying to play it down claiming reform & tories combined got more than labour, so they didn't get 50% of the vote. That's not how it works. 🤣 Clutch those straws motherfucker, hope you're all gone soon. In Wellingborough even if you add the two together Labour easily have more. But if you're going to start adding things then you should probably add the Lib Dem vote to Labour, which would mean they'd beat Tory+Reform in both places anyway. And maybe even the Green vote.
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Post by X201 on Feb 16, 2024 9:44:41 GMT
Does anyone know what date all of the new boundary changes come into effect?
Is there a date? Or does it just happen when the next election is called?
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Post by technoish on Feb 16, 2024 10:09:34 GMT
Does anyone know what date all of the new boundary changes come into effect? Is there a date? Or does it just happen when the next election is called? Has to be all at once
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Post by geefe on Feb 16, 2024 10:12:32 GMT
Unlikely to make a difference anyway. The Wellingborough Tory candidate actually campaigned outside of the constituency boundary. Like a twat.
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 16, 2024 10:58:05 GMT
Maybe at some point in the not too distant future the Torygraph will figure out the reason for this?
It was all Labour's fault obviously.
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Post by elstoof on Feb 16, 2024 11:03:52 GMT
What’s the Tory majority now?
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Post by Whizzo on Feb 16, 2024 11:07:43 GMT
55, down from 80 in 2019.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Feb 16, 2024 11:31:42 GMT
Yes Rishi, we know, that's what we want.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 16, 2024 11:33:22 GMT
It’s delightful to see the tories have to deal with something every other party has to cope with at every election. Welcome to FPTP, dickheads.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 16, 2024 11:35:21 GMT
55, down from 80 in 2019. That's absolutely nuts when you think about it.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 16, 2024 11:35:48 GMT
It’s delightful to see the tories have to deal with something every other party has to cope with at every election. Welcome to FPTP, dickheads. Exactly my first thought when I heard the whining.
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