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Post by Psiloc on Feb 27, 2023 10:48:15 GMT
Oh actually those are much taller than the ones I just saw on Google. Or those existing joists are super small.
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 27, 2023 10:49:52 GMT
Yeah should be able to get any of the main ones. Hive/ nest etc. Your existing boiler stays as it is and you replace your honeywell with the new one you choose. They're aren't that expensive and alot of places you can pay about 80 quid etc for someone to fit it. Price might be slightly more now? If you're remotely comfortable with electric wiring you should definitely save yourself the £80. Every one of these I've done for family and friends has been a straight swap for an existing thermostat or controller. Just take a few photos of the existing wiring and recreate it. |
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Post by damagedinc on Feb 27, 2023 11:00:39 GMT
For most people yes. However I am on a very strict ban from touching any electrics. I tried it myself.
Got electrocuted, had the hot water work but not the heating and turned a 5 min wiring job into a 40 min one.
My brother in law is an electrician and now handles all the "manly" electric jobs and issued the banning order.
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Post by X201 on Feb 27, 2023 11:10:48 GMT
I'm not interested in pretty pictures only facts. I didn't know these exist and I'm really confused. What's the advantage supposed to be over new joists? Enough room to hide a body |
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Post by minimatt on Feb 27, 2023 11:39:00 GMT
yeah room for more victims or thicker insulation, dealers choice
edit: your choice for a double insulation layer + boarding is either loft legs or cross laying another row of joists perpendicular to the first
its easier to cross lay joists as you don't have to be particularly precise with layout, wheras leg spacing will start to drift and need care to place its potentially adding a lot of extra weight if you cross joist - that's a lot of extra 2x3 or 2x4 up there its potentially quite a bit more expensive to cross joist as timber is really dear right now - that said, those loft legs are pricier than they have any reason to be an assertion has been made here that loft legs create weak point loads on the existing joists, it's an assertion that my anecdotal experience doesn't recognise but I'm not an engineer loft legs allow for thicker top up layer of insulation - probably not worth doing unless your adding at least another 100mm and to do that with timber is going to require 2x4 or more, 170mm insulation would need 2x8 and that will be extortionately expensive and very very heavy
potentially better insulation as your cutting a hole in the topup insulation layer to poke each leg through rather than eliminating joist size spans, and cold bridging?
I did it with legs from wickes a while back, I stuck a photo or two further back in this thread, haven't seen any hint of it sagging but like I say, I'm not an engineer. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 27, 2023 11:50:43 GMT
The central heating has packed up again. After getting an xmas card from the plumber it feels like its probably about time to bite the bullet and get it sorted.
Along with the extension
And a new garage door
And getting the drive re-tarmac'd
And..
And....
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 27, 2023 11:56:25 GMT
I know two people whose heating packed up this winter and in both cases it turned out to be a random bend in the central heating pipe cutting off the water pressure. In case you want to check if you're number three  The symptoms were the boiler losing pressure slowly even after a top up, and certain radiators not getting hot (obviously transpired to be the radiators that came after the bend). |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 27, 2023 12:01:56 GMT
The last time both hot water and central heating stopped and it turned out the main board in the boiler had burned out (again). Im still able to have a shower so Im expecting it to be a valve or something on the central heating pipes. I hope its going to be one of those easy 'the skill is knowing which pipe to hit' fixes.
I thought I was sick of it being cold before but god damn...
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 27, 2023 12:06:35 GMT
Sounds like the boiler itself is working then at least
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Post by elstoof on Feb 27, 2023 13:07:14 GMT
If you’ve got hot water but the heating’s off, it’s probably one of the motorised valve that’s failed  |
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 27, 2023 14:13:02 GMT
Yeah good point. Our house has one of these and its shit.
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Post by ibenam on Feb 27, 2023 21:50:23 GMT
Yeah should be able to get any of the main ones. Hive/ nest etc. Your existing boiler stays as it is and you replace your honeywell with the new one you choose. They're aren't that expensive and alot of places you can pay about 80 quid etc for someone to fit it. Price might be slightly more now? If you're remotely comfortable with electric wiring you should definitely save yourself the £80. Every one of these I've done for family and friends has been a straight swap for an existing thermostat or controller. Just take a few photos of the existing wiring and recreate it. Interesting! I've got a wireless receiver thing which is wired to the boiler. The existing honeywell then connects to that wirelessly. Can I do a straight swap with the nest controller replacing the receiver? |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 27, 2023 22:31:16 GMT
If you’ve got hot water but the heating’s off, it’s probably one of the motorised valve that’s failed 10 points to griffin door. He jammed it open or something so it’s on now and he’s coming back tomorrow with the part. |
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 27, 2023 23:28:44 GMT
If you're remotely comfortable with electric wiring you should definitely save yourself the £80. Every one of these I've done for family and friends has been a straight swap for an existing thermostat or controller. Just take a few photos of the existing wiring and recreate it. Interesting! I've got a wireless receiver thing which is wired to the boiler. The existing honeywell then connects to that wirelessly. Can I do a straight swap with the nest controller replacing the receiver? I would certainly guess so. Once you get hands on whatever part talks directly to the boiler, that wiring should be standardised and that’s where you swap in Hive I reiterate the part about taking clear photos  never ever assume that you’ll remember |
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Post by Nitrous on Mar 1, 2023 19:25:16 GMT
Quote in for the windows and composite door.
3 windows and 1 door £2780. The company have done work for us before so I'm reluctant to go elsewhere tbh
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Post by mrpon on Mar 1, 2023 20:56:12 GMT
That's good.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 2, 2023 14:01:23 GMT
Fucking hate DIY but we had some water under the washer. Pulled it out to find a drip from a T shaped valve that the washer and dishwasher Y off.
I tightened the side with the drip and it looked like it stopped. Left it an hour or so with a tub underneath and it still had a tiny drip. Tried to nip it up a touch more and ended up snapping the Y piece to be greeted by a geyser to the face.
FUCK! FUCK! .... as I desperately tried to put my hand over and stop it. Oh, close the valve duh! Fucking wet through.
Been to Screwfix and got replacement Y splitter and new O rings for the hoses.
So far so good but what a couple of hours FFS
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Post by KD on Mar 2, 2023 15:30:50 GMT
Don't forget the ptfe tape.
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Post by DJCopa on Mar 2, 2023 16:54:08 GMT
Don't forget the ptfe tape. Yeah - I replaced an outside tap (never done it before) and was swearing at it, as to why the fucker would only tighten up so it pointed upwards! Looked on YouTube and then felt like a complete nobber - tape added to thread and tap now pointing as it should and not leaking... |
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Post by Dougs on Mar 2, 2023 17:01:56 GMT
I have a leak in the join under the kitchen sink. It's pretty slow and I am putting off fixing it. Same with the kitchen tap that needs replacing (also has a leak). Ideally want to rip the whole thing out and don't want to do it all twice. But my patience is wearing thin.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 2, 2023 17:02:14 GMT
Our house came with a water filter tap. The mrs tried changing the filter under the sink without turning the mains off last year and by the time I reacted to her screaming the kitchen was already an inch deep in water.
Its genuinely terrifying when you cant stop water pissing everywhere but it was kind of funny afterwards to be sat bailing the kitchen out with a dustpan.
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Post by henroben on Mar 2, 2023 18:16:08 GMT
I drilled through a floorboard into the return pipe for the central heating a few years ago - so no way to turn off the water, which was as exciting as you'd imagine. But I did get a top tip from my dad after I phoned him in panic - grab a pencil and jab it in the hole in the pipe, the wood will swell and hold it in there, sealing the leak. A dowel or small bit of wood would also work, although you'd have to waste time sharpening it.
But it works like a charm and will stop water pissing all over the place while you wait for the plumber. My dad's always been a keen sailor and apparently it's an old trick to plug leaks in a boat.
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Post by Dougs on Mar 2, 2023 18:18:50 GMT
That is a great tip.
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Post by nexus6 on Mar 2, 2023 19:11:47 GMT
Water in a house or worse, a flat, terrifies me.
I changed my kitchen years ago in my flat and did it all myself other than the gas. But was still shitting it figuring out the plumbing and switching the water off before changing taps etc.
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Post by robthehermit on Mar 14, 2023 15:00:22 GMT
Wiring up a light when you've got three separate cables dangling out of the ceiling and no clue as to which one is the switched live and no multimeter is a bit of a ballache. Still, 3rd time lucky and all that.
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Post by Dougs on Mar 14, 2023 16:23:52 GMT
One way to get the ticker going again
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Post by mrpon on Mar 14, 2023 16:26:39 GMT
Or the balls twitching.
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Post by Dougs on Mar 15, 2023 10:40:45 GMT
I have a leak in the join under the kitchen sink. It's pretty slow and I am putting off fixing it. Same with the kitchen tap that needs replacing (also has a leak). Ideally want to rip the whole thing out and don't want to do it all twice. But my patience is wearing thin. Thought my day off (power to the people) would be the ideal time to fit the new tap and fix this leak under the sink. Got a replacement compression elbow joint and isolation valve. Typically, cannot get the old tap off. No way to get to the nut and the Flexi hoses won't budge at all. I suspect it'll need the sink taking out. In which case, may as well do the bigger job and replace the sink and units as planned. Grrrr. |
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Post by Vortex on Mar 15, 2023 12:49:39 GMT
Annoying, and yet kind of typical...DIY jobs always spiral, you should know that now Dougs!
As an aside, we should (allegedly) get the flooring down in the new kitchen this week. So just a bit of tidying up by the joiners and a painter to do the skirting and jobs a good 'un.
Except for the cost stopping me getting away on a nice holiday abroad due to reduced funds after paying them all- time to tap up my sister for some free lodgings down london way...
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Post by Dougs on Mar 15, 2023 12:59:50 GMT
Yup, I just put it all back together again and will put up with the leaks a while longer! Was slightly concerned the Flexi hose had split in the attempts but seems fine.
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