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Post by zisssou on Feb 29, 2024 13:37:33 GMT
I managed to pickup Outer Wilds for £4 with those free coins.
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Post by monkman5000 on Feb 29, 2024 13:39:24 GMT
It’s not going to be something like anti money laundering is it? Using one made up currency to buy credit in another made up currency? Blocked by PayPal *and* by my credit card company? I guess, but they wouldn't even know about the coins would they?
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Post by Phattso on Feb 29, 2024 13:57:21 GMT
I'm wondering if it's CDKeys blocking it, but having shit messaging to the end user. i.e. they let it get all the way to your payment method which gives it the thumbs up, and *then* they check their legal obligations. I'm reaching. Proof would be if you try to order without Koins and it goes through. Which rather defeats the object.
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Post by Phattso on Feb 29, 2024 13:58:06 GMT
(I used to work in a financial services firm, and we had these sorts of AML rules baked into the core of our service)
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Post by puddleduck on Feb 29, 2024 13:59:37 GMT
(I used to work in a financial services firm, and we had these sorts of AML rules baked into the core of our service) Yeah this definitely happens. Usually coupled with terrible front end user messages that mean they've no idea what's happened 😂
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Post by zisssou on Feb 29, 2024 14:00:58 GMT
From reading the messages on Hotukdeals.. CDkeys seemed to have had a mild panic with these.
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Post by monkman5000 on Feb 29, 2024 14:02:15 GMT
I'm reaching. Proof would be if you try to order without Koins and it goes through. Which rather defeats the object. I tried that and it still failed
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Post by Phattso on Feb 29, 2024 14:03:35 GMT
I'm reaching. Proof would be if you try to order without Koins and it goes through. Which rather defeats the object. I tried that and it still failed Then the only unresolved question is HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN AN INTERNATIONALLY HUNTED CURRENCY COUNTERFITTER, MONKMAN5000?!
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Post by monkman5000 on Feb 29, 2024 14:10:57 GMT
My counters are fitted perfectly around the world, but especially in northern English towns. I used to advertise a lot on the Eurogamer forum.
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Post by brokenkey on Feb 29, 2024 14:47:27 GMT
Yeah, two thumbs up from me too. Already had 300, so took the extra 300 and got me Balatro on Steam for a couple of quid. It's addictive as fuck, and therefore might cost me my job, though so basically fuck you for my impending unemployment. Hope you're fucking pleased with yourself. I would be but I've not used the coins myself yet so I'm a tad jealous. Well, at least until you get sacked, so swings and roundabouts. as an insider, I can tell you this is what a future with central Bank digital currency will look like. Probably.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Feb 29, 2024 15:28:56 GMT
I used paypal for my $0.04 and I was 100% expecting it to fail, either because of regional restrictions, or the address, or them flagging such a tiny payment as fraud. Was completely amazed when it went through, especially as last month I had huge problems trying to buy Blood Bowl 2 on Fanatical.
I guess I used my paypal balance, which would at least avoid any bank/credit card checks. But that was true with the fanatical one and that ended up with my paypal account getting locked and having to call their customer service. *shrug*
At some point it's not worth the time and energy just for a $3 saving though.
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Post by malek86 on Mar 1, 2024 19:49:08 GMT
The new Frost Fatales Humble seems interesting. At the very least, Gylt is good and has never been priced this low even without the other included games. Of those, Abzu is apparently good (too boring for me but admitedly pretty), Dicey Dungeons looks fun, Maid of Sker is worth a try, and Pseudoregalia is a metroidvania with good reviews. The asking price is low wnough that I might bite, though admittedly I've already played several of those, so I don't know just yet.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 2, 2024 3:23:41 GMT
I understand why humble doesn't do the really cheap $1 tiers these days, but I find that I almost never buy their bundles since they stopped. Even though the bundles are still great deals on paper (if you compare with the total retail price), there's rarely a bundle where I strongly want more than 1 or 2 games. Usually there are some I've never heard of, some that I've already got, etc.. I used to often take a gamble on the lower tier. But then that probably means I was part of the problem, dragging down the average. Their current Creative Sandbox one has a bunch of games that might be good for my kids. But I don't need 6+ of them when they all look pretty similar! /1st world problems
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Post by malek86 on Mar 2, 2024 6:20:40 GMT
I understand why humble doesn't do the really cheap $1 tiers these days, but I find that I almost never buy their bundles since they stopped. Even though the bundles are still great deals on paper (if you compare with the total retail price), there's rarely a bundle where I strongly want more than 1 or 2 games. Usually there are some I've never heard of, some that I've already got, etc.. I used to often take a gamble on the lower tier. But then that probably means I was part of the problem, dragging down the average. Their current Creative Sandbox one has a bunch of games that might be good for my kids. But I don't need 6+ of them when they all look pretty similar! /1st world problems
Yes, but even among the regular price bundles, they still have some good ones occasionally. The Boomer Shooter bundle for example was great if you like the genre (I skipped the second one though, didn't look as interesting). i also ended up buying the current Frost Fatales, there were just enough games that looked interesting to me to give it a shot (Hylics 2 and Pseudoregalia look pretty crazy), and Gylt should be worth a replay on an actual PC. Last time I played it thanks to that Stadia trial. I think what is not worth it is the Monthly Humble, they are too hit and miss... and more miss than hit lately. Also it's a shame they don't do console bundles anymore.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 2, 2024 8:08:42 GMT
Blimey... Think that's the first humble bundle I've got where I didn't own any of the games (well, on Steam)
Dicey Dungeons is well worth a look. Great little game.
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Post by damagedinc on Mar 2, 2024 8:25:56 GMT
Posted it in the reading thread but all 6 dune books on kindle are 99p each at the moment....
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Post by malek86 on Mar 3, 2024 6:24:58 GMT
What's the best idea to use up a bunch of Steam wallet credits? And by that I mean, every time I hover up some game to buy, I feel like I'm being cheated out of money because it would be cheaper to buy games on some key seller website. Like say, I want to buy AITD, and I have enough credit to get it on Steam nearly for free... but if I bought it on CDKeys, it would be literally half the price. And I'd get to keep the wallet credit for something more expensive. Either I need to buy something that will never appear on a key seller website, or at the very least, I need some psychological counseling on how to stop worrying about opportunity costs
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 3, 2024 7:39:09 GMT
Well, cdkeys is morally questionable as the devs probably won't benefit from you buying it there.
Does that help?
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Post by malek86 on Mar 3, 2024 7:55:29 GMT
Well, cdkeys is morally questionable as the devs probably won't benefit from you buying it there. Does that help? It's a THQ Nordic game, hence Embracer would get my money. So it doesn't help all that much But I gotta use this credit eventually, and I can't think of many games in 2024 that I absolutely want at launch no matter what. Might as well spend it this way... Unless I wait for Stalker 2. I'll probably do that if reviews for AITD are bad enough.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 3, 2024 8:50:56 GMT
If you use your steam credit to pay for 99% of it, and then pay cash for the remaining 1% then it's actually going to be 49% cheaper than cdkeys. Trust me, it's maths.
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Post by Tomo on Mar 3, 2024 9:34:09 GMT
Steam credit doesn't expire does it? Just keep it till there's a sale on and Steam is closer in price to the key sellers, or use it to knock down the price of a game at launch when everywhere is expensive.
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Post by brokenkey on Mar 3, 2024 11:06:49 GMT
Well, cdkeys is morally questionable as the devs probably won't benefit from you buying it there. Does that help? wait, is cdkeys dodgy? I thought they were legit.
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Post by malek86 on Mar 3, 2024 11:16:38 GMT
Steam credit doesn't expire does it? Just keep it till there's a sale on and Steam is closer in price to the key sellers, or use it to knock down the price of a game at launch when everywhere is expensive. It doesn't expire, but I feel bad about having it up there for so long. I'd really rather spend it by the end of the year. In the end, chances are I'll get AITD after all. Just need to wait for reviews. Also I'm hoping it's 50 euro instead of 60 euro, it looks fairly low budget.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 3, 2024 12:32:12 GMT
Well, cdkeys is morally questionable as the devs probably won't benefit from you buying it there. Does that help? wait, is cdkeys dodgy? I thought they were legit. Username checks out.
I can't claim to be an expert, but I think they're grey market resellers rather than authorized sellers.
That doesn't automatically make them bad of course.
IsThereAnyDeal and /r/gamedeals don't list them, and their lists are usually considered legit.
The thinking seems to be that cdkeys buys up the keys cheap in other regions and then sells them in higher priced regions. Which certainly isn't illegal. Though of course no one can really be sure.
They're supposed to be better than sites like g2a though.
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Post by Tomo on Mar 3, 2024 12:32:37 GMT
Well, cdkeys is morally questionable as the devs probably won't benefit from you buying it there. Does that help? wait, is cdkeys dodgy? I thought they were legit. I've had a surprisingly bristling reception on here before, so without wanting to prod the beast too much, I'd say it's murky. How they get all their keys is a unclear. Probably something to do with buying in cheaper territories and selling to more expensive ones. Which is different levels of dodgy to different people. Take Balatro for instance, how the hell did those keys land on there? Or... Did the publisher do a deal which leads to a chunk of sales which leads to word of mouth etc. and then Steam sales take off as well? That makes sense to me for indies, but I find it strange that the big games companies haven't tried to put a stop to cdkeys given they often undercut by a good chunk and must lose business. I assume they don't for a few reasons: the cross territory thing possibly makes it a legal haystack; actually only really 'proper' gamers use cdkeys so it's not a huge loss; taking legal action results in loads of publicity which drives more sales via cdkeys.
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Post by malek86 on Mar 3, 2024 12:39:05 GMT
I have no idea what kind of numbers websites like CDKeys make, but I imagine that for blockbuster games it doesn't matter because most of the target demographics won't even know those websites exist. Also, I guess most AAA game sales are on consoles, and their console prices aren't much better than those of first party digital stores, so they probably don't care.
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Post by cubby on Mar 3, 2024 13:54:13 GMT
AFAIK there's no way to make a steam key that hasn't been created by the publisher via Steam. So in that respect the publisher is still getting the money, and already has it even before the end buyer makes his purchase. It's possible some publishers try selling keys to sites in advance or in bulk because then the onus is on those sites to sell the keys, rather than themselves hoping they'll get those sales, so I can see the appeal to smaller companies.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 3, 2024 14:01:54 GMT
There were a lot of issues in the past with resellers that (a) used stolen credit cards to get the keys, or (b) tricked devs into giving them free promotional keys. It got to the point where some indie devs were saying they'd rather you pirated their game than bought a key from a reseller. That said, I've not heard of cdkeys being involved with anything like that. So they aren't considered as dodgy as places like g2a. www.gamedeveloper.com/business/the-impact-of-key-resellers-on-the-game-industrywww.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/2yhlw4/key_resellers_and_what_they_mean_for_you/I don't follow these things closely though. The issue of buying keys cheaply in one region and selling them in a more expensive region is much more complex. I've taken advantage of similar things myself so I can't throw stones. But it also might encourage publishers to lock down regions even more, or raise prices in cheaper regions which might hurt low income people there.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Mar 5, 2024 16:06:45 GMT
Seven, a top-down immersive sim, is available for 1,49 € on steam. 95 % off.
Edit: Good offer on Infra as well: 5,21 € at 82 % off.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Mar 8, 2024 13:22:00 GMT
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