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Post by OnlyJoeKing on Oct 12, 2022 10:09:57 GMT
I'm only tempted as the 4080's don't seem like they'll offer better value, just proportionately lower performance for lower cost.
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Post by uiruki on Oct 12, 2022 10:53:24 GMT
It's making a 12700K CPU limited on GN's review; I think at this point you have to ask yourself what games it would push over 60 average on your screen, and what it'd push over 120. Assuming you've got a gsync compatible screen I think they're the big averages you want to hit. For me, I'm limited enough on my 3900X to find it a significant CPU limit on my 3080 at 3440x1440 so even though the numbers are bigger I don't think it would make enough of a difference to enough games right now to justify it. Indeed, if I was to buy anything from this year's stuff it'd be a 5800X3D. I don't think game requirements are going to take much of a jump in the next year or two until UE5 really filters through, by which time you will no doubt have something even better available.
edit: Actually, thinking about it, my last few upgrades were definitely for specific reasons. I went from a 780Ti to 1070 because the 3GB of RAM was absolutely choking on games like Doom 2016, 1070 to 2080 for a combination of VR and getting a nice bonus at work, and I went from 2080 to 3080 because of games like RE8 and wanting HDMI 2.1 to run it through my shiny OLED TV at 120hz. 4000 series doesn't bring anything like that for me.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 12, 2022 11:45:38 GMT
I would be tempted by a 4080 (probably next year) to replace my 2080 Super. The prices are just obscene though. Plus, it is quite clear that the 4080 with lower RAM is just the 4070 with a higher price tag.
I picked up the 2080 Super 3 years ago, spending quite a lot more than I had on previous cards, with the expectation to be able to sell it and be able to stay at that level. I probably can't wait until 50 series if I want to get any money for it, but very tempted to see what Team Red come out with in November, even though DLSS 3 looks like it is going to be incredible and the ray tracing performance might finally be there.
Not that it would make much of difference where I go next; these things are going to fly off the shelves no matter what the price.
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Post by uiruki on Oct 12, 2022 11:53:27 GMT
I've seen arguments that in terms of die usage, the 16gb 4080 is more like the 4070 and the 12gb one is closer to 4060 levels.
If you're not desperate then at the very least waiting to see what appears on 3 November would be a decent idea.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Oct 12, 2022 12:35:11 GMT
Nvidia store is borked
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Post by captbirdseye on Oct 12, 2022 12:41:24 GMT
Not got yourself on Discord group? They usually post the direct link from Scan for the FE.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Oct 12, 2022 12:56:07 GMT
Not got yourself on Discord group? They usually post the direct link from Scan for the FE. so scan will have them just not searchable from their main page and you have to follow links from Nvidia store ? |
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Post by captbirdseye on Oct 12, 2022 12:59:59 GMT
Yeah, you can't search but Discords groups post the direct links so you bypass the Nvidia page.
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Post by captbirdseye on Oct 12, 2022 13:04:40 GMT
Those AIB prices lol.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Oct 12, 2022 13:07:39 GMT
We'll that went about as expected
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Post by Fake_Blood on Oct 12, 2022 15:09:31 GMT
Local pc shop has some in stock, prices range from €2400 to €2700. |
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Post by captbirdseye on Oct 12, 2022 15:30:23 GMT
You can still get hold of them if you look around a bit but overclockers scalping on those prices again. Guess Gibbo needs a new Ferrari.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Oct 12, 2022 15:40:28 GMT
I want the FE model this time, the AIBs all look hideous or are just huge. The FE is actually smaller than my current card so it would fit lovely.
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Post by OnlyJoeKing on Oct 12, 2022 17:35:55 GMT
I did that thing where you agonise for ages, concoct a fantastic tale about why a £1700 graphics card is a sensible purchase actually, then obviously fail to get one when they sell out within seconds.
Great stuff all round.
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Post by captbirdseye on Oct 12, 2022 18:25:29 GMT
Lol, Overclockers taking more orders than they can handle yet again. I have no idea why people continue to use that site.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 12, 2022 18:48:20 GMT
Lol, Overclockers taking more orders than they can handle yet again. I have no idea why people continue to use that site. They're an absolute joke of a site who have been pulling this kind of shit for aaaaaages. Like you say it's amazing that people still come back, truly the definition of insanity. |
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Post by Tomo on Oct 12, 2022 20:15:27 GMT
Yeah, had my fingers burned with my 3080 order through OcUK. Even though I got it in the end for RRP, I ain't using them again for pre-orders. Fug that.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Oct 12, 2022 23:39:38 GMT
Yeah, had my fingers burned with my 3080 order through OcUK. Even though I got it in the end for RRP, I ain't using them again for pre-orders. Fug that. Bought mine from them on launch day, it took nine months to arrive. Never got the free copy of Watch Dogs: Legion that was promised with it either, the offer expired during the wait. |
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Post by lukasz on Oct 13, 2022 0:22:25 GMT
3200 aud here for 4090...
While 6900 is 1k to 1.2k.
And as per gamer nexus you need top of the line cpu, ram to use all that 4090 power and cause of that you need high quality motherboard...
And of course a high refresh 4k monitor.
To use 3200 aud gpu another 3500 aud must be spent!!!
Haha.
I'm happy with my 6700xt
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Post by dfunked on Oct 13, 2022 7:11:44 GMT
Yeah, fuck that noise. I could afford one, but would need get a new case to even fit the bastard, then a new PSU. Hell a 5900x and DDR4 would probably start to feel like a bottleneck, and it'd be wasted on a 1440/144 monitor too.
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Post by stixxuk on Oct 13, 2022 10:52:24 GMT
What's a sensible spec these days? My 4690k and 1070 are a little long in the tooth...
I'm not getting a 4090, obviously.
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Post by dfunked on Oct 13, 2022 11:43:14 GMT
Depends on what kind of res/framerate you need to drive and on which games.
You're also at the awkward crossover point with DDR5 not quite being in a mature state but not wanting to tie yourself to DDR4.
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Oct 13, 2022 12:06:14 GMT
What's a sensible spec these days? My 4690k and 1070 are a little long in the tooth... I'm not getting a 4090, obviously. My 4790K bottlenecks my RTX2070 too often, so probably not worth me looking at an upgrade any time soon. And I only have a 2560x1080 res monitor... |
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Post by stixxuk on Oct 13, 2022 13:25:56 GMT
Depends on what kind of res/framerate you need to drive and on which games. You're also at the awkward crossover point with DDR5 not quite being in a mature state but not wanting to tie yourself to DDR4. I'll probably continue to play the waiting game. I play this game a lot. Rather than aim for a res/framerate I'd be looking for the current "sweet spot" and adapt my expectations accordingly. I don't play a whole lot anyway these days... might play more if I had an awesome PC but I'm not 100% sure  |
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Oct 13, 2022 14:19:33 GMT
Thought I'd have a chuckle and pop over to Ebay and see what the scalpers were charging...yup £2500-£3000k.
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Post by dfunked on Oct 13, 2022 14:21:05 GMT
I sometimes wish I wasn't against scalping. Could've made a fortune on stuff like this over the years.
Then I remember I'm not a massive cunt.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Oct 13, 2022 14:30:44 GMT
Why is it that the ones that manage to get through the 1 second window to buy one are the scalpers. Cunts the lot of em
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Oct 13, 2022 15:56:29 GMT
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Post by lukasz on Oct 13, 2022 22:56:09 GMT
What's a sensible spec these days? My 4690k and 1070 are a little long in the tooth... I'm not getting a 4090, obviously. I got 6700xt as upgrade to my 1070. But it was overkill for 2560x1080p 75hz monitor. So got new monitor. 3440x1440p 144hz. And then cpu was bottleneck so got new 5600. Wife was not happy! If just upgrading 1070 I would consider 6600xt. Fairly cheap these days. |
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Post by malek86 on Oct 14, 2022 5:16:41 GMT
You are not going to get that much of an improvement going from 1070 to 6600XT. Far less than double the framerate. If you are playing on 1080p60, your card should still be decent enough. If you want to go higher, I'd get at least a 6700 for a more substantial improvement.
But I would think about upgrading the CPU first, as a 4690K is really old nowadays.
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