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Post by Tuffty on May 6, 2024 16:47:07 GMT
We have 4 gender neutral toilets on our workplace and lately its getting to the point where the female staff are asking to designate one or two of them as female only due to the way the guys leave some of the seats. I can sympathise, at times the seats look pretty bad.
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Post by nexus6 on May 6, 2024 16:47:59 GMT
I don’t know how true this was but I worked at a place that only employed dudes and when I asked about it I was told the owner didn’t want to put in another toilet Used to drink in a pub in Glasgow that had the proud claim to have been the last drinking establishment in the city to install a female toilet. Would have been middle of the 2000's or so.
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Post by lukasz on May 6, 2024 23:55:26 GMT
To be fair to him she is a woman so needs to be told to control herself. It is interesting seeing some of the anti-trans brigade who probably fancy themselves as liberally minded in all other regards sitting on GB News and TalkTV looking slightly haunted as their new best friends go veering off down various rabbit holes. Only some though, others appear so fully radicalised as to be blind to the company they now keep. Indeed they appear to be completely embracing the free speech brigade as allies to their cause. Reading her full post i am certain now that she is not anti trans whatsoever. She does not give crap about it. She hates men. Simple like that. All men are rapist, all men will hurt women if they get a chance. That's their biology, that's their conditioning. Nothing can change that. I have seen that argument before from someone who didn't need to hold back. So attack on trans people is simply censored attack on all men. She can not say to put all men in cages can't she? Too public, too many bridges to burn when she does it but it is evident in her full post. So there is one part of men world she can attack. And since men are evil, nothing ever can change that, making them not look like men is simply a dangerous ploy which must be stopped. She is crazy.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on May 7, 2024 0:37:49 GMT
I mean, she's probably capable of hating men and trans women at the same time.
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Post by Vortex on May 7, 2024 8:35:39 GMT
We have 4 gender neutral toilets on our workplace and lately its getting to the point where the female staff are asking to designate one or two of them as female only due to the way the guys leave some of the seats. I can sympathise, at times the seats look pretty bad. Wtaf is that about? We had a new batch of students in not long ago and one of the arseholes just couldn't be bothered to lift the seat. Fair-enough if they had pinpoint pissing accuracy or wiped it down after, but they didn't. I don't want to have to wipe up your crusted in orange piss from the seat before I take a shit on the work dollar, you manky heathen! I ended up having to put a note in the bog about basic courtesy for your colleagues in the toilet ffs. They eventually got the hint, but now we have another batch in and it looks like there's another dirty bastard who cba cleaning up after themselves either. We also have a phd student who fucking reeks (1.5years to go with luck as they're about halfway through now). I fear for this generation as this level of basic hygiene has never been an issue in the nearly 30 years I've been working.
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Post by simple on May 7, 2024 11:51:57 GMT
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Post by Dougs on May 7, 2024 12:33:13 GMT
Vortex my son has an inability to lift the toilet seat too. No matter how many times we get him back to clean up, the lazy arse still does it. It's weird.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 7, 2024 12:37:44 GMT
That museum exhibit in Australia that was making a point about men-only spaces by making a women-only space, but then got sued by a dude who couldn't enter and the court told them they needed to allow men....
...is now installing a toilet, so it can be a women only space again. But they'll let men in on Sundays for ironing and clothes folding classes.
lol
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Post by anthonyuk on May 7, 2024 12:54:46 GMT
It is interesting seeing some of the anti-trans brigade who probably fancy themselves as liberally minded in all other regards sitting on GB News and TalkTV looking slightly haunted as their new best friends go veering off down various rabbit holes. Only some though, others appear so fully radicalised as to be blind to the company they now keep. Indeed they appear to be completely embracing the free speech brigade as allies to their cause. Reading her full post i am certain now that she is not anti trans whatsoever. She does not give crap about it. She hates men. Simple like that. All men are rapist, all men will hurt women if they get a chance. That's their biology, that's their conditioning. Nothing can change that. I have seen that argument before from someone who didn't need to hold back. So attack on trans people is simply censored attack on all men. She can not say to put all men in cages can't she? Too public, too many bridges to burn when she does it but it is evident in her full post. So there is one part of men world she can attack. And since men are evil, nothing ever can change that, making them not look like men is simply a dangerous ploy which must be stopped. She is crazy. I have the same view. She openly had a very bad relationship with her father and her first marriage she was a victim of domestic abuse in which she was battered and had to go into hiding with her children. With that in mind can understand, even empathise where such a deep rooted hate of men could stem from. She's like any victim of abuse, in that they can be left with a lasting impact or an irrational view towards others, but I struggle to have any sympathy for her. Using her own wealth and reach to help validate hate towards a minority group, who have enough battles of their own already is just wrong. The sad part is she likely has convinced herself that men are transioning simply as another scheme to attack women.
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Post by Vortex on May 7, 2024 13:07:25 GMT
Vortex my son has an inability to lift the toilet seat too. No matter how many times we get him back to clean up, the lazy arse still does it. It's weird. Ours learnt eventually. I think making him wipe up his piss at the side of the toilet a few times was the charm.
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 7, 2024 13:16:32 GMT
My offices toilet seats are often covered in piss. It's weird. I wouldn't call our company prestigious but it's a recognised name and fairly respected, as far as things go, so it's not like we're a company who hire any malcontent, so it's just bizarre that it happens. (Not quite sure how I got through the door, but I don't piss on toilet seats at least).
If it was some scummy call centre full of students coming down from the night before I'd expect it maybe, but most people here would be firmly middle class.
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Post by Tuffty on May 7, 2024 19:10:29 GMT
Just makes you wonder what their own toilet seats at home look like.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 7, 2024 19:15:47 GMT
If you work in IT or are IT adjacent a lot of the carnage is caused by offshore guys. They really need to include ‘how to use a toilet’ in their induction packs.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 7, 2024 19:18:11 GMT
I remember in the civil service surprisingly the women's was the worst kept the toilets. Was quite eye opening tbh.
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Post by Vortex on May 7, 2024 20:38:24 GMT
I remember in the civil service surprisingly the women's was the worst kept the toilets. Was quite eye opening tbh. And why were you lurking in there? Eh? Eh? And to think user Psychotext had the perv with nvg rep previously...
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Post by mothercruncher on May 7, 2024 20:42:17 GMT
Jambo didn’t even have the decency to spend 3 years transitioning on hormones before invading a real woman’s space.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 7, 2024 20:43:15 GMT
Ha! I think it was when everyone said "come look at the women's toilets someone's done a dirty protest all over the walls!"
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 7, 2024 21:16:18 GMT
One of my end-of-day responsibilities at work is checking the customer toilets to see if anyone is still in there before we lock up and go home. You never know when an elderly or otherwise unwell person might be having a medical issue that's left them unable to move or something. And you really don't want to be the one who forgets to do the check and come in the next morning to find that someone has been trapped there alone in the dark for 12 hours when the lights go off. That happened once in another branch and heads rolled, so we all do the checks quite rigourously. Not inaccurate about the state of the womens toilets though. The worst you get in the mens is a load of splash damage around the urinals, but the womens frequently look like the aftermath of an American halloween, with the amount of toilet paper that's just been needlessly thrown around. a lot of the carnage is caused by offshore guys.
I suppose if you work on an oil rig for long enough, you just get used to doing it over the side.
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Post by askew on May 7, 2024 21:22:16 GMT
If you work in IT or are IT adjacent a lot of the carnage is caused by offshore guys. They really need to include ‘how to use a toilet’ in their induction packs. Our toilets have little posters in with best practice. The final instruction reminds people to use the air freshener if they’ve done a stinky one. But yes, it’s a bit of a shock seeing how white-collar professionals leave the toilets.
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Post by Dougs on May 7, 2024 21:52:56 GMT
Yep, shit on the seats and all sorts. I don't quite know how people manage it. (Let's not do the standing/sitting thing again though)
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 7, 2024 22:15:30 GMT
It always just makes you wonder how disgusting is their own home if they're ok with this stuff.
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Post by cubby on May 7, 2024 22:15:56 GMT
One thing I learned early on in my work life was that some cultures don't have toilets like we do here, so I've seen the after effects of people trying to use them while standing balanced on top of the toilet and all sorts.
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Post by Nanocrystal on May 7, 2024 22:31:25 GMT
That museum exhibit in Australia that was making a point about men-only spaces by making a women-only space, but then got sued by a dude who couldn't enter and the court told them they needed to allow men.... ...is now installing a toilet, so it can be a women only space again. But they'll let men in on Sundays for ironing and clothes folding classes. lol I've been following this story. It's really interesting and very meta. Seems like the guy suing is an intentional part of the art. Pretty clever stuff.
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Post by Lizard on May 7, 2024 23:26:18 GMT
Can corroborate re women's toilets. Working in retail the women's was almost always far worse at the end of the day. Even if there wasn't anything yucky it was still always messier or on some sort of disarray. Toilet paper everywhere, water splashed everywhere, litter, empty carrier bags, discarded labels and tags from items bought or stolen elsewhere in town. Empty wine bottles were a regular too.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 8, 2024 2:02:04 GMT
That museum exhibit in Australia that was making a point about men-only spaces by making a women-only space, but then got sued by a dude who couldn't enter and the court told them they needed to allow men.... ...is now installing a toilet, so it can be a women only space again. But they'll let men in on Sundays for ironing and clothes folding classes. lol I've been following this story. It's really interesting and very meta. Seems like the guy suing is an intentional part of the art. Pretty clever stuff. lol. Hadn't heard that. I'm not following it closely enough to know what's going on behind the scenes, but it is kinda funny. Though if the guy suing was intentionally part of the art, (a) isn't that wasting court time or something?, and (b) I wonder if they thought he'd win or lose?
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Post by Nanocrystal on May 8, 2024 7:16:36 GMT
I've been following this story. It's really interesting and very meta. Seems like the guy suing is an intentional part of the art. Pretty clever stuff. lol. Hadn't heard that. I'm not following it closely enough to know what's going on behind the scenes, but it is kinda funny. Though if the guy suing was intentionally part of the art, (a) isn't that wasting court time or something?, and (b) I wonder if they thought he'd win or lose? Yes indeed and apparently the judge was not happy to have a number of women doing performance art in his courtroom! Not sure if the lawsuit was planned from the beginning but the female artist has described the guy as a lovely bloke so I'm pretty sure he's either in on it or is making his own contribution to the meta narrative around the piece. Win or lose probably didn't matter too much, losing would be a "win" in terms of reinforcing the message of the art.
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Post by cristar on May 8, 2024 12:34:18 GMT
I remember in the civil service surprisingly the women's was the worst kept the toilets. Was quite eye opening tbh. My missus says the same. She is always making complaints to office management about it. Looks like a scene from a horror movie at times, from what I've been told... I've always heard that female toilets are worse. I remember in school the girls toilets always had to be closed on one of the floors, and the smell kicking out from it was a biohazard. Was wild stories about what went on in there.
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Post by simple on May 8, 2024 12:56:27 GMT
Maybe it was a best behaviour kind of thing but in my shared living years - boys in mixed houses were tidiest, girls were quite gross and boys in all male houses the worst.
The gents at my work is usually the one getting locked off the most but staff and students share all the facilities so that could be down to undergrads who aren’t feeling themselves the morning after.
The big mystery to me is a regular occurrence where a chod is sat at the bottom of an otherwise empty bowl. Have they left without wiping or flushing? Is it so dense it can’t be carried away? Its a multiple days a week happening so someone has an iron stomach in this building.
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Post by Dougs on May 8, 2024 13:00:33 GMT
We are moving buildings shortly. I hope to god they've sorted out the plumbing. Not a day goes by in the office without one of the traps being blocked.
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Post by Vortex on May 8, 2024 13:29:47 GMT
The big mystery to me is a regular occurrence where a chod is sat at the bottom of an otherwise empty bowl. Have they left without wiping or flushing? Is it so dense it can’t be carried away? Its a multiple days a week happening so someone has an iron stomach in this building. Sounds familiar. We had someone who used to work here who must have shat depleted uranium or something. It Just. Would. Not. Flush. Even better, in our new build, none of the bogs have brushes, so it would just sit lurking all day. I think the cleaners had brushes and would deal with it at night. Thankfully, it never seemed to create a log jam. Possibly because everyone else decided to use a different cubicle after seeing it lurking.
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