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Post by Jambowayoh on May 1, 2024 17:44:54 GMT
Also doesn't really hold up when you look at his former partner in Larry David offending everyone and everything in Curb Your Enthusiasm. Or some of the stuff Julia Louis-Dreyfus says in Veep. On a somewhat related note, I notice there aren't really as many comedy movies as there were back in the day. I think that's more down to the rise of streaming and the redefining of what kind of movies you go to the cinema for. A comedy movie just doesn't do it anymore unless it's that kind of cultural event like Barbie was.
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Post by simple on May 1, 2024 17:45:51 GMT
You’re in luck then because Seinfeld has made a comedy movie for tv and its out this week!
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 1, 2024 18:15:13 GMT
Or some of the stuff Julia Louis-Dreyfus says in Veep. Or Peter MacNicol in Veep. --- Quite liked this response:
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Post by Vandelay on May 1, 2024 21:26:24 GMT
Don't make me feel the need to change my name Jerry! Also doesn't really hold up when you look at his former partner in Larry David offending everyone and everything in Curb Your Enthusiasm. Or some of the stuff Julia Louis-Dreyfus says in Veep. On a somewhat related note, I notice there aren't really as many comedy movies as there were back in the day. He actually addresses that. He says that David can get away with it because of his experience in the industry and they all look up to him. The new people coming through would be shot down for trying to make similar jokes. His framing of his argument is kind of nonsense. Blaming issues on the extreme left when the right is such resurgence at the moment constantly baffles me. However, I can see some merit in what he says. I don't have experience of the industry, so maybe it is all wrong, but plenty of shows and films feel like they are made by committee nowadays and I certainly could imagine those committees shooting for middle of the road content that doesn't offend. Then again, plenty of stuff doesn't feel like it is made by committee. Maybe if you are just going for the most mainstream of the mainstream it is and I fully expect Seinfeld lives in that world, but there is plenty outside that.
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Post by Danno on May 1, 2024 22:29:29 GMT
Seinfeld was shit anyway*.
There I said it.
*especially his character
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on May 1, 2024 22:33:54 GMT
You guys remember that episode where Kramer did blackface.
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Post by simple on May 1, 2024 23:26:29 GMT
It would be interesting if he was doing this because there were jokes in his Pop Tart film that were too shocking for Curb or Always Sunny or South Park or Family Guy or Gervais or any American stand-up with a Netflix special but its really just a 70 yr old being out of touch
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Post by Syrette on May 2, 2024 15:59:43 GMT
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 2, 2024 16:42:09 GMT
He just sounds more and more like an out of touch codger scared of new and different things. If he wasn't such a twat it would be tragic.
But he is a twat so basically fuck the bastard.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 2, 2024 18:49:43 GMT
Speaking as a brown man if he wants to have racial slurs in his production then fine but I would want to know the reason for their inclusion. For example Tarantino used the N word with abandon in Pulp Fiction because he wanted to say the N word in a movie because ART. To surmise, Clesse is just an old white guy who wants an excuse to use the N word. I honestly wouldn't be bothered about it if he wasn't such a needy, attention seeking oxygen thief.
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Post by Nanocrystal on May 2, 2024 20:45:13 GMT
Feels like "journalists" are just using him to get regular click bait-y quotes at this point.
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Post by cubby on May 2, 2024 20:47:19 GMT
It was ever thus
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 2, 2024 20:58:23 GMT
Feels like "journalists" are just using him to get regular click bait-y quotes at this point. I dunno. It's always good to remind myself that John Cleese is a performative prick.
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Post by Vandelay on May 2, 2024 23:02:35 GMT
Speaking as a brown man if he wants to have racial slurs in his production then fine but I would want to know the reason for their inclusion. For example Tarantino used the N word with abandon in Pulp Fiction because he wanted to say the N word in a movie because ART. To surmise, Clesse is just an old white guy who wants an excuse to use the N word. I honestly wouldn't be bothered about it if he wasn't such a needy, attention seeking oxygen thief. WHY YOU HATE IRONY, JAMBO??
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Post by simple on May 3, 2024 12:08:21 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on May 3, 2024 12:22:35 GMT
Speaking as a brown man if he wants to have racial slurs in his production then fine but I would want to know the reason for their inclusion. For example Tarantino used the N word with abandon in Pulp Fiction because he wanted to say the N word in a movie because ART. To surmise, Clesse is just an old white guy who wants an excuse to use the N word. I honestly wouldn't be bothered about it if he wasn't such a needy, attention seeking oxygen thief. His example of the old days claiming people were laughing at the people for saying racist things and being ignorant is just not true either. People didn’t laugh at Alf Garnett because they thought he was ridiculous, they laughed because they like to punch down, which at the time was at anyone non-white. Half of these comedians just haven’t worked out how to be funny without also being cunts. Anyone can get a few laughs by making fun of people. A lot of people would rather not do that now.
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Post by Tuffty on May 3, 2024 12:30:10 GMT
It really does feel like the public shame and humiliation is his sexual fetish
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Post by simple on May 4, 2024 8:17:40 GMT
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Post by cubby on May 4, 2024 8:49:12 GMT
"Ask about and comedians will tell you I will be at your literal doorstep."
That's a great reputation you have there Dane, fucking twat.
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Post by Chopsen on May 4, 2024 10:53:44 GMT
'Since the company's inception we have always promoted equality, kindness and empathy within our industry and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future."'
Bit of a tangent, isn't "for the foreseeable future" a bit odd in this context? Always considered that as qualifier to suggest "but things *could* change" which is a weird thing to imply when youre makiing the point that you're not a twat.
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Post by simple on May 4, 2024 12:07:42 GMT
This might actually be one of those rare cancellings that actually sticks. I know from reading a few articles that the woman wants to remain anonymous but I assume she’ll be outed and hounded by the end of the weekend too.
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Post by Tuffty on May 5, 2024 15:15:00 GMT
Christ even Elon Musk is telling Rowling to shut up about it
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Post by cubby on May 5, 2024 15:16:58 GMT
To be fair to him she is a woman so needs to be told to control herself.
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Post by mothercruncher on May 5, 2024 17:12:50 GMT
Name me one that doesn’t though AMMMIRITTEE
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Post by Onny on May 5, 2024 17:29:23 GMT
Name me one that doesn’t though AMMMIRITTEE
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Post by simple on May 6, 2024 0:20:43 GMT
To be fair to him she is a woman so needs to be told to control herself. It is interesting seeing some of the anti-trans brigade who probably fancy themselves as liberally minded in all other regards sitting on GB News and TalkTV looking slightly haunted as their new best friends go veering off down various rabbit holes. Only some though, others appear so fully radicalised as to be blind to the company they now keep. Indeed they appear to be completely embracing the free speech brigade as allies to their cause.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on May 6, 2024 1:24:46 GMT
I remember reading something recently about the difference between social justice progressives and modern New Right types. The progressives think you're an enemy if you disagree with them about one thing, and the New Righties assume you're a friend if you agree with them about one thing. Feels like a pretty apt description to me.
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Post by Ulythium on May 6, 2024 14:57:48 GMT
Single-sex toilet law proposed for new buildings
Just reading the words "Equalities Minister Kemi Badenoch" made me sigh.
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Post by simple on May 6, 2024 16:27:21 GMT
As someone with medically bad insides I’ve found the move to gender-neutral bogs quite a relief as the stalls no longer have urine coating every surface or messages written in shit on the walls.
Plus I get to make a very weak joke about liking them so much I have two in my house whenever the subject comes up at work.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 6, 2024 16:31:19 GMT
I don’t know how true this was but I worked at a place that only employed dudes and when I asked about it I was told the owner didn’t want to put in another toilet
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