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Post by Zomoniac on Sept 26, 2021 9:13:58 GMT
Depends on the wording in the contract I guess - any new venture won't turn a profit straight away... I don’t have the wording to hand, but there’s a clause that says something like “you may not be on a board of or have any ownership in any other company except for holdings of up to 1% of any company on a recognised stock exchange”. |
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Post by Dougs on Sept 26, 2021 9:32:07 GMT
Motherfuckers. Contracting it is until the 6 months are up then!
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Post by drhickman1983 on Nov 16, 2021 20:40:22 GMT
My long term secondment at a large organisation might be made permanent!
Would see a small uplift in salary (still below the national average but a three and half grand more than I currently get) and a better package overall, and with more potential to progress internally too - though for the time being I'd just be working in my current role and doing much the same as what I've been doing for the last 2 years.
It's not quite fully signed off yet but it's very promising, FTE and headcount has been approved, they just need to check everything with the HR department of my formal employers.
This does mean I'm panicking a bit as I'll need to go through pre-employment vetting - the vetting itself is fine, I'm literally on the other side of this chasing people for documents and verifying them as part of my role - but I don't have a valid passport (it had expired, then I lost it, so I reported it lost, then I found it... still counts as lost though) for RTW checks.
So that's 200 quid down the drain applying for the 1 week fast track and a trip to London.
Underpinning all of this is the vague notion that somebody somewhere has made a mistake, and that they'll find out I'm actually rubbish at what I do, but I guess it's good news.
I guess I'm not giving advice nor asking for any, just wanted to cast my thoughts into the void.
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Post by Danno on Nov 16, 2021 21:02:17 GMT
My long term secondment at a large organisation might be made permanent! Would see a small uplift in salary (still below the national average but a three and half grand more than I currently get) and a better package overall, and with more potential to progress internally too - though for the time being I'd just be working in my current role and doing much the same as what I've been doing for the last 2 years. It's not quite fully signed off yet but it's very promising, FTE and headcount has been approved, they just need to check everything with the HR department of my formal employers. This does mean I'm panicking a bit as I'll need to go through pre-employment vetting - the vetting itself is fine, I'm literally on the other side of this chasing people for documents and verifying them as part of my role - but I don't have a valid passport (it had expired, then I lost it, so I reported it lost, then I found it... still counts as lost though) for RTW checks. So that's 200 quid down the drain applying for the 1 week fast track and a trip to London. Underpinning all of this is the vague notion that somebody somewhere has made a mistake, and that they'll find out I'm actually rubbish at what I do, but I guess it's good news. I guess I'm not giving advice nor asking for any, just wanted to cast my thoughts into the void. Stick that impostor syndrome in the bin, go nail it and get a bigger wage hike when the pay reviews happen |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Nov 16, 2021 21:05:37 GMT
Stick that impostor syndrome in the bin, go nail it and get a bigger wage hike when the pay reviews happen I will do my best! (I guess it's just that I almost feel guilty for playing Final Fantasy 7 on my Switch during some Teams calls.) |
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Post by Danno on Nov 16, 2021 21:06:33 GMT
Same as having a shit on work time imo, and no-one is going to call that out
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Nov 19, 2021 15:04:02 GMT
After 17 years my role is no more (company ended) as of the new year. I started pimping the CV/linkedin etc and getting ready for the job search.
Now this is the first time I've had to deal with recruiters but it's been quite simple so far. This normal?
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Post by Danno on Nov 19, 2021 15:08:16 GMT
Depends on the recruiter and the sector you work in. Some of them are basically estate agents that will offer any old shite because they just want their fee from the employer, others have a reputation to maintain and do a decent job
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Nov 19, 2021 15:43:37 GMT
Well it seems I've been lucky with this guy as he has been an honest straight shooter throughout. Secured me a pretty substantial uplift for doing what I'm doing now.
So fucking excited to start the new role. I hope it's a good as I'm expecting.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 19, 2021 17:19:24 GMT
That was quick!
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Nov 19, 2021 17:56:52 GMT
hah, I meant to out it all in the first post stating I only just started looking but got something quickly. Son coming out of school so I ended the message early |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 19, 2021 18:04:40 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Nov 19, 2021 23:04:26 GMT
I’m getting sick of people that are director level or 1 below of my (huge) company asking what I’m working on because they need to review my priorities.
I’m well aware of the priorities and that I’m the only person in the company that can do the work. As my forecast/allocated workload has me at 300% loaded then priorities aren’t the issue. Not my fault every project is currently critical.
The only amusing part is that I’m still only on one months notice.
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Post by clemfandango on Aug 19, 2022 16:57:51 GMT
So I've been approached by the Cabinet Office on Linkedin re. a new job role. I'm currently working in the private sector and have never worked for the public sector (my job supplies services the public sector though). The job is for the DFE and through the Government Commercial Function (https://govcommercialcareers.co.uk/). I'm going on holiday tomorrow but I am scheduled for a pre interview conversation with their recruitment team when I get back.
I need advice, how many people on here work in the public/civil service sector? and can anyone advise on how secure your job is once you are in? Also any tips on how to ace the interview process?
I've been at my current company for 15 years and my bosses (who own the company) now only work two days a week and still haven't made me a director even though I run the company, so I'm thinking now could be the time to leave, I may never get another chance...
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Post by Dougs on Aug 19, 2022 18:14:42 GMT
Usually I'd say that your job is safe as houses but obviously at the moment, there's more uncertainty given the push to reduce headcount across all Depts. You would need to check whether the job was Permanent or fixed term. Starting salary is usually at the bottom end of the payband unless you have professional qualifications that push you up - you could negotiate a recruitment and retention allowance though. Just don't be fooled by the "depending on experience" bullshit.
In terms of working environment, it's very inclusive but a big culture change shift from the private sector. I'm in policy not commercial and not worked in DfE but imagine you'll be frustrated at how long things take to be cleared or agreed etc. But despite the political rhetoric, it's still a good place to work. The constant bashing is an issue at the moment though.
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Post by lordofthedunce on Aug 19, 2022 18:30:45 GMT
I'd say try and get an offer on the new job and then see if your current employer will counter it.
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Post by clemfandango on Aug 19, 2022 18:49:33 GMT
Usually I'd say that your job is safe as houses but obviously at the moment, there's more uncertainty given the push to reduce headcount across all Depts. You would need to check whether the job was Permanent or fixed term. Starting salary is usually at the bottom end of the payband unless you have professional qualifications that push you up - you could negotiate a recruitment and retention allowance though. Just don't be fooled by the "depending on experience" bullshit. In terms of working environment, it's very inclusive but a big culture change shift from the private sector. I'm in policy not commercial and not worked in DfE but imagine you'll be frustrated at how long things take to be cleared or agreed etc. But despite the political rhetoric, it's still a good place to work. The constant bashing is an issue at the moment though. Cheers Dougs much appreciatted 👍 |
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Post by clemfandango on Aug 19, 2022 18:50:27 GMT
I'd say try and get an offer on the new job and then see if your current employer will counter it. Yeah I will do this, but my Tory loving daily mail reading bosses already think they pay me and all the other staff too much, they don’t.... |
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Post by dam on Aug 19, 2022 18:59:04 GMT
There's no chance of your bosses moving on, or taking a step back?
A company on the same floor as us had a staff buyout. The 2 directors sold the business to the staff (or a group of them), over a 5 year period, with the money coming out of the company profits.
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Post by clemfandango on Aug 19, 2022 19:06:05 GMT
There's no chance of your bosses moving on, or taking a step back? A company on the same floor as us had a staff buyout. The 2 directors sold the business to the staff (or a group of them), over a 5 year period, with the money coming out of the company profits. They have taken the step back, given me and another manager total responsibly and a paltry pay rise with no director title. Turn over is about around £8 million we have 21 staff. They live like royalty we don’t. I know it’s their business, but the company only really started making serious money when they promoted me and the other guy around 8 years ago. The finances are a closely guarded secret but I’ve done the maths and I reckon the company makes around £650k clear profit after every bill and staff member has been paid. |
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Post by clemfandango on Aug 19, 2022 19:06:30 GMT
I.e. why sell it
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Post by lordofthedunce on Aug 19, 2022 19:15:57 GMT
I'd say try and get an offer on the new job and then see if your current employer will counter it. Yeah I will do this, but my Tory loving daily mail reading bosses already think they pay me and all the other staff too much, they don’t.... I think it sounds like you're genuinely entitled to try and better your position and maybe even get some of the pie. You need to sell it to the owners, what's in it for them? Can you take the business further given the incentive? It wouldn't hurt to sound them out, they might adjust their way of thinking, even be receptive to the idea. |
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Post by Danno on Aug 19, 2022 19:40:32 GMT
Whats the name of the company? |
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Post by clemfandango on Aug 19, 2022 19:48:50 GMT
Whats the name of the company? Not sure if I’m comfortable with that, sorry why do you ask? |
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Post by Danno on Aug 19, 2022 19:57:29 GMT
Whats the name of the company? Not sure if I’m comfortable with that, sorry why do you ask? To look at the accounts, PM me if you like |
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Post by clemfandango on Aug 19, 2022 20:02:29 GMT
Just messaged you 👍
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Post by retro74 on Aug 19, 2022 22:29:41 GMT
I start a new job when I go back to work on Monday. Had to go and find a new role as my team was transferred to a new area of this business and the director turned out to be a psychopath
Feel sorry for the two people that work for me who will be left there now, one of them will be ok but the other was considering suicide due to the behaviour of the aforementioned director
Thankfully when I told her that I was off for two weeks she booked the time off too so hopefully she’ll be ok when we catch up on Monday
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Post by clemfandango on Aug 19, 2022 23:11:43 GMT
How bad is it?
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Post by Danno on Aug 19, 2022 23:22:59 GMT
No job is worth that noise
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Post by Tomo on Aug 20, 2022 7:28:32 GMT
Everyone blags it, don't they? First 6-12 months are spent blagging it, next 12-18 months knowing what you're doing, next year a bit bored, wanting a new challenge. Yeah this. I'm starting a new job in 4 weeks as well. Newly created department, with an inexperienced manager at the helm, compared to department of 50+ and long-established line manager in my previous role. My new boss has mentioned assigning me one task I'm mildly terrified about. But they employed me for good reason and I'm sure once I've got a hang of the rhythm of group and my head around some of the new technical aspects, it'll be all good. Hoo boy, I forgot I posted in here. The optimism behind this post hahaha. Approaching a year in this job and it has not gone as expected... Just yesterday we were having a meeting where our contractor has missed deadlines for a third time, shifting the goal posts by another 3 months. Absolutely nuts. As for Dougs' timelines... Think I had the swing of things within about 4 weeks this time round! I am far more qualified than most my colleagues (!). Unfortunately I think I hit the bored part after about 6 months -_- |
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