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Post by docrob on Nov 18, 2024 22:24:29 GMT
So I decided to have a crack at AC: Black Flag. I’ve owned it for years, but only played the tutorial.
My experience of AC games is pretty minimal. I played a bit of 2 and didn’t really get on with it. I have Odyssey and have played an hour or two on my Steam Deck.
I’m wondering if I’m playing it right. Actual stealth seems to be more or less impossible. If I parkour across the roofs, I get spotted right away. I can get stealth kills by hiding in tall grass and similar, but every assassin mission seems to end up as a free-for-all. Not only can’t I get stealth kills, I generally can’t see how on earth I could.
I also think naval combat is going to be stupidly hard, but I’ve only played the first of those missions where you have to escape from the fleet.
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Post by minimatt on Nov 18, 2024 22:52:25 GMT
yonks since i played it but recollection is that yeah, land based bits are very meh but life on the open waves is where it's at
has a few more wrinkles than odyssey naval combat (chain shot & the like) but very similar
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Post by lukasz on Nov 18, 2024 23:41:41 GMT
Playing it myself right now.
Stealth is stupid. I literally just slaughter everyone. Sometimes escape if I don't actually need to kill everyone to progress the game. Those assasin mission. Just run to target stab him in the chest run away.
You are a pirate first pretend assasin second.
Naval combat was super hard at first but few upgrades to ship, mortar and realising that those tiny cannons which snipe barrels of gun powder on ship are super op. At least at first.
It really became fun.
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Post by docrob on Nov 19, 2024 0:19:44 GMT
Playing it myself right now. Stealth is stupid. I literally just slaughter everyone. Sometimes escape if I don't actually need to kill everyone to progress the game. Those assasin mission. Just run to target stab him in the chest run away. You are a pirate first pretend assasin second. Naval combat was super hard at first but few upgrades to ship, mortar and realising that those tiny cannons which snipe barrels of gun powder on ship are super op. At least at first. It really became fun. Glad you said this, because that was the impression I was getting! |
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Post by Cappy on Nov 19, 2024 15:58:59 GMT
The game is garbage, despite a reputation for being 'one of the good ones'.
Black Flag is worse offline just because the tail wants to wag the dog and Ubisoft wanted you in their pointless online ecosystem, offline you eventually run out of metal for crafting upgrades and there is no way to get it without grinding on a scale that would put the most exploitative whale chaser mobile games to shame... Or you can go online and just get handed the materals that have intentionally been made scarce.
There is barely any skill component to large parts of the game, so when you are advised to upgrade your ship just to progress in story missions you're in for an incredibly bad time if you can't or don't want to do this.
For this and the reasons in the posts above, physical copies of Black Flag are best utilised as coasters or bird scarers.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 19, 2024 16:03:15 GMT
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Post by brokenkey on Nov 19, 2024 16:21:01 GMT
I dreamed a dream, the other night..
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Post by richyroo on Nov 19, 2024 16:31:28 GMT
I love Black Flag. Its all about the open seas and naval combat for me. Oh, and those Rogue Waves!!!
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 19, 2024 16:55:52 GMT
I really enjoyed Black Flag. The only ones I’ve ever really enjoyed are the first two, that one, and the Egypt one (that’s the sleeper IMO, it’s so deliciously creepy). I believe the Greek one is supposed to be good, but I bounced off it because I’d just spent hours in Egypt.
Although I think the Egypt one (sorry forgot the name!) is the underrated one I think Flag is the best by far. And yeah, I tended to find that once the assassination was done it then became a ‘fight your way to escape game’ but I don’t think that’s atypical for the series at all.
Love the concepts of Creed but because it’s spread out amongst so many games and systems I think following the overarching plot is pretty much a fool’s errand, so it always ends up not making any sense once the illuminati and ancient origin alien gods shit shows up.
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Post by rftp on Nov 19, 2024 17:03:14 GMT
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 19, 2024 17:28:00 GMT
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Post by Danno on Nov 19, 2024 17:52:33 GMT
Damaged is their best record imo
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Post by docrob on Nov 19, 2024 21:07:20 GMT
The game is garbage, despite a reputation for being 'one of the good ones'. Black Flag is worse offline just because the tail wants to wag the dog and Ubisoft wanted you in their pointless online ecosystem, offline you eventually run out of metal for crafting upgrades and there is no way to get it without grinding on a scale that would put the most exploitative whale chaser mobile games to shame... Or you can go online and just get handed the materals that have intentionally been made scarce. There is barely any skill component to large parts of the game, so when you are advised to upgrade your ship just to progress in story missions you're in for an incredibly bad time if you can't or don't want to do this. For this and the reasons in the posts above, physical copies of Black Flag are best utilised as coasters or bird scarers. I think some of the Ubisoft nonsense is why I’ve tended to bounce off this series a lot. One thing that massively annoys me is that the launcher makes me enter my password every damn time I want to play the game. |
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Post by paulyboy81 on Nov 19, 2024 21:08:15 GMT
I always find the older AC games a bit weird to play without a crouch button these days. As a serial skulker it annoys me that I can only creep around when the game says I can, i.e some strategically placed patch of grass.
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Post by lukasz on Nov 19, 2024 23:03:54 GMT
The game is garbage, despite a reputation for being 'one of the good ones'. Black Flag is worse offline just because the tail wants to wag the dog and Ubisoft wanted you in their pointless online ecosystem, offline you eventually run out of metal for crafting upgrades and there is no way to get it without grinding on a scale that would put the most exploitative whale chaser mobile games to shame... Or you can go online and just get handed the materals that have intentionally been made scarce. There is barely any skill component to large parts of the game, so when you are advised to upgrade your ship just to progress in story missions you're in for an incredibly bad time if you can't or don't want to do this. For this and the reasons in the posts above, physical copies of Black Flag are best utilised as coasters or bird scarers. I think some of the Ubisoft nonsense is why I’ve tended to bounce off this series a lot. One thing that massively annoys me is that the launcher makes me enter my password every damn time I want to play the game. Yeah. What the hell is that about? If you want to unlock everything grinding is necessary in this game from what I read. Metal from Hunter ships, gold from everything else. But also I read that you absolutely do not need to beat the game. Can finish it by just doing the bare minimum. Picked a fight with a high level ship today. I thought I could take it lol. Got owned big time. So picking on smaller ships for now which I do enjoy. But mostly doing main mission. Not bothered about clearing map. Except shanties. Those are a must. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 19, 2024 23:10:42 GMT
I beat the game twice didn't have to do this grinding that's been bandied around. The only thing I did go out of my way for was to unlock the locked high level costume on Libertalia, that's it.
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