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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 14, 2021 18:22:11 GMT
I also think that was too aggressive from Lewis for what it's worth, chopped him there. This is the issue with endorsing ever more aggressive 'racing'. They'll keep pushing it further and further until someone gets hurt.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 14, 2021 18:22:25 GMT
Stewards may do something about the weaving perhaps?
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Nov 14, 2021 18:23:12 GMT
You can’t beat a good championship battle. This is great. Lewis showing a bit of his younger self today. Good to see him be aggressive like he used to be. Rare he gets to be these days.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Nov 14, 2021 18:23:51 GMT
Stewards may do something about the weaving perhaps? Think they just showed a black and white flag to him. |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 14, 2021 18:23:57 GMT
Toto releasing Bottas to get Verstappen was hilarious.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 14, 2021 18:24:22 GMT
Stewards may do something about the weaving perhaps? Think they just showed a black and white flag to him. Slap on the wrist that's not even that. |
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Nov 14, 2021 18:24:28 GMT
Looks like Max totally cooked his tyres defending for so long. Bottas should keep going in case he hits the cliff.
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 14, 2021 18:28:25 GMT
Bottas isn't going to get anywhere near Max. Wishful thinking.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Nov 14, 2021 18:29:41 GMT
Certainly not now.
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 14, 2021 18:30:07 GMT
Ricciardo PU failure kind of underlines the risk of running a Merc engine too hard for too long.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Nov 14, 2021 18:35:23 GMT
Will be interesting to see the degradation. I think it'll be the only thing to stop them on the tracks that are coming up. Unless they just chuck another one in.
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Post by Psychotext on Nov 14, 2021 18:38:51 GMT
He has a huge advantage over most other cars though, so don't be surprised to see him finish in the top five of the sprint race. Would still be 10th for the race, sure... but all it takes is a safety car or two to put him in contention. One prediction down, prediction for an easy podium for Hamilton tomorrow yet to come... If we see a safety car then I'd bet on him winning the race. Exactly as predicted. Amuses me so many people were saying the championship was over. |
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 14, 2021 18:41:54 GMT
Interlagos delivering the goods this weekend. |
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Nov 14, 2021 18:49:48 GMT
It's been at least an hour since one of the teams have whinged about something, so I'm sure Red Bull have a 200 page dossier ready to drop on the FIA's desk to explain how Mercedes are so fast in a straight line.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Nov 14, 2021 18:53:44 GMT
Hamilton is the greatest Brazilian sportsman since Fat Ronaldo.
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 14, 2021 19:15:13 GMT
One prediction down, prediction for an easy podium for Hamilton tomorrow yet to come... If we see a safety car then I'd bet on him winning the race. Exactly as predicted. Amuses me so many people were saying the championship was over. Good call. |
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 14, 2021 19:28:20 GMT
I really want to see the inconveniently missing onboard from Max's car as that should tell us intent. If he's locked his tyres and is on full left lock, then I'll be a lot more understanding. Even if it was a genuine error, he should still have had to yield the place, otherwise, it encourages drivers to 'fake' similar errors as there's always a chance the FIA might buy it.
The overhead shows Hamilton had already rotated the car sufficiently to easily make the corner and did really well to react to Max and avoid being crashed into.
As Di Resta said, it's a bad precedent from the stewards.
Horner's face whilst defending that moment on Sky says it all. He's no idiot, he knows.
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Post by stuz359 on Nov 14, 2021 19:30:09 GMT
So many of the great races we see are predicated on front runners starting from way back on the grid. I'm not talking about drivers winning it per se, just seeing how they will race and final finishing position. Why don't we reverse the race order from pole? Fastest drivers go to the back and have to fight their way to the front. I know why we don't obviously, but I love the idea of it.
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 14, 2021 19:55:53 GMT
Hamilton summoned to the stewards again for undoing his seat belts on the in lap. A £50001 fine would be fair.
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 14, 2021 19:59:22 GMT
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Nov 14, 2021 20:00:38 GMT
Will just be a reprimand.
Unless Red Bull throw in a complaint that he touched his seat belt under parc ferme conditions.
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Post by monkman5000 on Nov 14, 2021 20:04:51 GMT
So many of the great races we see are predicated on front runners starting from way back on the grid. I'm not talking about drivers winning it per se, just seeing how they will race and final finishing position. Why don't we reverse the race order from pole? Fastest drivers go to the back and have to fight their way to the front. I know why we don't obviously, but I love the idea of it. I must be missing part of this idea. Why would anyone push at all in quali, knowing the faster you go the worse your starting position? |
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Post by stuz359 on Nov 14, 2021 20:17:38 GMT
I know why we don't obviously |
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Post by muddyfunster on Nov 14, 2021 20:18:35 GMT
I'd keep sprint races but make a load of changes
1) don't have the first one before about round 6 to give the drivers championship a chance to take shape
2) only run them at events with a history of being able to overtake, maybe let teams blind vote to decide which.
3) grid set by reverse drivers championship order
4) award points down to 6th by the old 10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1 system
5) make the sprint a bit longer, maybe 40% distance
6) the Sunday GP grid remains set by qualifying and whoever sets the fastest lap is awarded 'pole'
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Post by monkman5000 on Nov 14, 2021 20:19:03 GMT
Ok, it wasn't clear to me that's what you meant. Anyway I wasn't having a dig, it's something that seems to come up a fair bit. I don't see how you'd get past that fundamental issue.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Nov 14, 2021 20:36:54 GMT
I imagine you’d have points up for grabs in quali. Risk vs reward then. Do you take the qualifying points and then have to push for race points or give up quali points for a better shot at the race ones. Or something.
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Post by arnvidr on Nov 14, 2021 20:58:30 GMT
Isn't it like 3 points for pole in F2 or F3? I enjoyed the format there this year with two 'sprint' races and one 'feature' race, even if all of them were the same length. The reverse pole thing at least forces interesting results.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Nov 14, 2021 21:04:03 GMT
I don't like sprints at all tbh, or giving out points outside races. I'm even going off the point for fastest lap, given how 2nd drivers are now just patsies for taking it off the lead driver of the other team now.
This season has shown what the sport really needs is competition. Gimmicks defeat what the real issue has been for the last 7 years.
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Post by monkman5000 on Nov 14, 2021 21:08:23 GMT
Yeah I think I'm with you. The sprints themselves are never actually that interesting anyway, so it doesn't seem worth the messing around with who's got pole etc.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 14, 2021 21:16:41 GMT
Missed the race, but it sounded great. Agree re sprints/ fastest lap too. I'm old though, just like some good old fashioned racing, no gimmicks or wanky rules. Which probably isn't possible now
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