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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 25, 2024 13:55:13 GMT
I think he'll get P3 but it's P2 we need. He basically needs to be past Leclerc by lap 50 then I think it might be doable. Seems like McLaren have about 4 tenths a lap on the Red Bull's today. Should really be a 1-2.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Aug 25, 2024 14:19:53 GMT
Well this is a bit dull.
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Post by SpiralScratch on Aug 25, 2024 14:30:58 GMT
For a moment a few laps back i was hopeful both Leclerc and Piastri had the tyres to get past Verstappen and push him off the podium.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 25, 2024 14:33:31 GMT
Piastri being unable to pass kind of killed things at the front. It really spells out why Max is probably safe for the title. Still second best car, with no threat from Ferrari or Merc, and McLaren have contrived to not pressure him with the second car. Think he can just P2 to the title Rosberg style if necessary.
A routine win for Norris. How nice to be able to say that, and I could withstand a few more in the short term. If we want a genuine Championship battle he's going to need quite a lot more of these boring wins.
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Post by nazo on Aug 25, 2024 14:34:07 GMT
Another genius bit of strategy from Mercedes
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Post by Whizzo on Aug 25, 2024 14:37:00 GMT
Not the most thrilling of races but nice to see Norris make up for his slow start to beat Verstappen on his turf and fastest lap on the very last one is very good.
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Post by Whizzo on Aug 25, 2024 14:38:05 GMT
Another genius bit of strategy from Mercedes That Russell stop was a very bad idea.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 25, 2024 14:39:54 GMT
Another genius bit of strategy from Mercedes Sainz would've had Russell anyway but it does seem like they handed Perez some extra points
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Post by mastercracker on Aug 25, 2024 14:44:59 GMT
Could really do with a Lando Win/Verstappen DNF double in the next couple of races.
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Post by dangerousdave on Aug 25, 2024 15:40:25 GMT
McLaren have just hired Nelson Pique Jr to replace Piastri for the remainder of the season.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 25, 2024 16:11:00 GMT
McLaren have just hired Nelson Pique Jr to replace Piastri for the remainder of the season. That would mean asking Nelson to strategically crash to hinder his own brother in law. The Piquet family don't exactly have the greatest reputation for integrity and virtue but even then I think that might be a hard sell.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Aug 25, 2024 16:13:30 GMT
Mercedes literally finished 1-2, more or less on merit the last race. To suggest they are going to magically drop off from today on is completely in the face of reality. They have peaky maximum performance but they will take points off Max between now and the end of the season when they hit their sweet spot. That's before you take into account races like Singapore, where RB will very likely be dogshit. Sprint races/fastest laps up for grabs. Piastri has shown he can and will finish ahead of Verstappen on occasion. It's no where near as simple as "finish 2nd until the end of the season". He's only finished 2nd twice in the last 5 races.
It's very much a 2009 situation. Max needs to hope he can pick up maximum results every weekend and hope it's competitive enough up front or Lando not being able to capitalize to limp over the line. The only difference is the amount of races and variety of new points that can now be picked up. Championship is 100% on IMO, it's going to be very interesting even if the races themselves end up being pretty crap.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 25, 2024 16:57:13 GMT
Constructors definitely. Think Macca now favourites despite being 30pts behind given their car and no2 driver advantages. Probably get ahead there by end of September.
For Driver's a 70pt lead and 9 races remaining is very big in the modern era where cars are so reliable. I can't think of a similar lead being overhauled?
Max can afford to finish second every race (-63pts). So McLaren need to 1-2 six of the remaining races and also do so in the right order. If Max finishes 3rd every race he wouldn't be caught before the penultimate round so it'd still go to the wire. If reliability/accidents don't affect things Max only has to nick a few P2s or take one win (essentially a 14pt at worst swing) and it's pretty much over. Wouldn't be surprised if there is at least one track left that suits the Red Bull.
McLaren need to implement team orders immediately and they and Norris has to be close to perfect for it to somewhat be in his hands. Max just needs to avoid any disasters. Mathematically the odds must be firmly in Max's favour.
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Post by dangerousdave on Aug 25, 2024 17:10:43 GMT
When was the last time McLaren had the fastest car on the grid? My mind has been blown today
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Aug 26, 2024 8:38:37 GMT
When was the last time McLaren had the fastest car on the grid? My mind has been blown today I guess 2007 with Hamilton and Alonso. And before then probably 99/00ish with Mika and Coulthard. Been a long time coming but it’s good to see. * dreaming Sainz, Albon and Volwes can do the same with Williams
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Post by zisssou on Aug 27, 2024 8:25:49 GMT
This is peak F1 when you've got McLaren back. Long may it continue.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 27, 2024 9:17:07 GMT
McLaren vs Williams vs Ferrari is my kind of F1.
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Post by A46Matt on Aug 27, 2024 16:30:15 GMT
After one too many repair bills Sargent has been binned by Williams for the remainder of the season.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 27, 2024 16:59:48 GMT
Pretty shocked they've gone with Colapinto. He seems promising, but he's not exactly head of the queue looking at available junior drivers as a whole. I guess this is why you have an academy and perhaps the big picture here is they can point to it and say to the best prospects "this is why you should sign for us".
Lawson or even Mick Schumacher would have been safer in terms of actually improving their chances of scoring points.
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Post by damagedinc on Aug 27, 2024 19:28:08 GMT
Pretty shocked they've gone with Colapinto. He seems promising, but he's not exactly head of the queue looking at available junior drivers as a whole. I guess this is why you have an academy and perhaps the big picture here is they can point to it and say to the best prospects "this is why you should sign for us". Lawson or even Mick Schumacher would have been safer in terms of actually improving their chances of scoring points. Lawson would have been a legal nightmare due to his red bull links and wouldn't have been able to go there. Schumacher maybe a surprise but I just think he isn't rated in the paddock. Colapinto has had a solid season and driven practice sessions for Williams. May as well blood someone in before sainz next season.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 27, 2024 19:51:15 GMT
According to The Race, Horner said they'd consider loaning Lawson this year, though presumably on the proviso Williams would immediately release him if they needed him back to cover an injury.
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 30, 2024 12:01:59 GMT
Oof Antonelli binning the Merc into the wall on his second flying lap is not a great look when there are concerns about his maturity.
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Post by Buu on Aug 30, 2024 12:27:02 GMT
Yeah can't be good for his confidence. I'm sure he is extremely talented, i don't really follow the feeder series too much, but I feel they're really piling on the pressure and expecting him to be a phenom.
Genuinely think he should've went to Williams for a year or 2 and Sainz was the safe hands that Mercedes would've needed.
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Post by dangerousdave on Aug 31, 2024 15:16:53 GMT
Will the McLarens get off the line ok tomorrow or will we see a Ferrari at the front on lap 1? I have to say the gap between the top 6 is mildly exciting!
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Post by muddyfunster on Aug 31, 2024 19:30:03 GMT
The Maccas need to work together to protect Norris tomorrow. Golden opportunity to ensure Max finishes no higher than third and for Norris to claw back good points. I hope Piastri has been briefed accordingly.
Suspect McLaren might get mugged again off the line. Seems like there is a slight technical deficiency and there's only been a few days since Zandvoort to figure it out. Apparently there was hardly anything between the top four teams on long run pace on Friday so strategy could be key.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 1, 2024 9:11:12 GMT
I hope it’s a case of Red Bull pushing too hard, causing them to drop back.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 1, 2024 12:50:21 GMT
40% chance of rain. Come onnnn.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 1, 2024 12:56:04 GMT
I'd be amazed if the Red Bull is genuinely fourth fastest on race pace. They were well in the mix right up to Q3 when they went slower than Q2 so unless they did something crazy setup wise that they can't revert I think they'll come forward. Hopefully by that time the McLaren's will be away and clear. Mind you, reasonable chance of a safety car round here so being fastest today doesn't mean they'll win.
Gut feeling is Leclerc leads out of first chicane lap one.
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Post by Lizard on Sept 1, 2024 13:05:16 GMT
Lando...
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Post by mastercracker on Sept 1, 2024 13:05:22 GMT
What a pair of idiots
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