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Post by simple on Sept 11, 2021 17:09:50 GMT
Smackdown looks like it was a solid show this week but the roster is looking so thin right now
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 11, 2021 18:02:47 GMT
It was nice to see Dean Ambrose back.
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Post by pizzacrunch on Sept 11, 2021 18:12:03 GMT
More WWE being WWE.
Zelina Vega's father died in the 9/11 terrorist attack and 20 years later she's about to perform on SmackDown in New York on a show paying tribute to the lives lost during 9/11... And they cut her match.
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Post by simple on Sept 11, 2021 18:21:03 GMT
I didn’t know that. It is the most WWE move they could have made.
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 11, 2021 19:07:17 GMT
Ran out of time apparently.
Was a good show but they could have easily condensed all the Brock/Reigns/Heyman stuff into one in ring segment. Or cut some of the Edge vs Rollins match.
She even had special ring gear made for it
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Post by simple on Sept 11, 2021 22:28:58 GMT
Like they couldn’t have made time if they really wanted.
One slight correction, the most WWE thing would have been to have her lose due to the interference of someone who looked a bit Arab-y, act like it was setting up something big then forget all about it in a fortnights time
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 13, 2021 9:46:39 GMT
Joe 'injured' and dropped the NXT belt just before its revamp on Tuesday.
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 13, 2021 9:56:57 GMT
Nothing to do with the recent changes up top lol. Joe was only brought back after Hunter intervened.
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Post by simple on Sept 13, 2021 10:08:35 GMT
Someone needs himself a one way ticket back to the Nation of Violence
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Post by richardiox on Sept 13, 2021 10:11:03 GMT
Yeah I definitely thought the Joe thing sounded suss but who knows.
It's amazing that NXT has gone back to the drawing board seeing as how 2 to 6 years ago it was held aloft as the pinnacle of wrestling, gave us the women's revolution and a fuck load of main roster stars. It had real momentum and was a great alternative to main WWE. However, this was all in a pre AEW world I guess and the landscape has now radically changed.
Speaking of AEW I rewatched all out last night, one week on, to see if I was just caught in the moment first time round...nah, it's a fucking barn burner pretty much throughout.
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Post by simple on Sept 13, 2021 12:45:57 GMT
I think NXT has been on the slide since it went to two hours.
But then its been trying to be multiple things at once. The joy used to be the turnaround of new talent keeping it fresh and exciting then all of a sudden Gargano, Ciampa, Undisputed Era and others were spending years going nowhere. At the same time the pool of incredible indie stars they had access to was drying up either through competition from AEW or through their own hoovering up of everyone available in previous years. Its just ended up feeling ordinary.
Unfortunately it doesn’t sound like they’re going back to how it was at its peak but closer to how it was when it first replaced FCW.
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 13, 2021 18:47:03 GMT
Maybe the injury is legit? As others have said on twitter surely if they wanted to make a star they would have them go over Joe clean? And he is rather injury prone now.
Big E is teasing cashing in tonight
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Post by simple on Sept 13, 2021 18:54:04 GMT
Joe is very injury prone now so its certainly a possibility. I still think its played right into their reboot plans very well whatever the truth
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 14, 2021 6:32:30 GMT
Good moment and the crowd was really into it. Hope they give him a good title run and it's better they have 1 face champ. New day talking about mental health. Over an hour but good watch/listen youtu.be/McanIFW2jZA
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Post by simple on Sept 14, 2021 6:54:31 GMT
Very happy, long overdue.
I tuned into some of the mental health stream last night. The New Day are too good.
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 14, 2021 15:16:25 GMT
He'll be fed to Goldberg in Saudi Arabia.
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Post by simple on Sept 14, 2021 15:24:52 GMT
Seeing which old matches they would upload to youtube always used to be a big signal of where the Fed are going and they’ve been uploading multiple bits of Khali content for a few weeks now.
A return? The long game for a Hall of Fame induction? Big Indian show?
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 14, 2021 20:51:27 GMT
Maybe appear in a Rumble style match? Guy couldn't perform anyways and he's already in the HoF
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Post by richardiox on Sept 14, 2021 21:38:48 GMT
They need to turn Big E heel, have him demolish Xavier and Kofi and be the polar opposite to his perma smile saccharine new day gimmick of the last 6 years.
Then build Kofi back up to take the belt off him at Mania. I know WWE doesn't have the patience but this would be a perfect story and they have all those years together to draw the heat from.
I'd book the fuck outta it.
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Post by simple on Sept 14, 2021 21:59:55 GMT
They really need a top face who is under 40 now Danielson has moved on
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Post by richardiox on Sept 14, 2021 22:38:29 GMT
But Vince only wants to have big guys who started their runs 10-15 years ago at the very top.
Was arguing with a mate recently, he is a big WWE mark. My point was how they only book that type of person at the top. I googled the last 7 years mania main events and it was something like Roman X 5, Brock X 4, HHH, Taker, Big Show). Other than Roman most people were literally 90s or attitude era.
The Fed have basically failed to make another main event megastar in 15 years. Plenty could have been and even were but they always get buried to the midcard straight and booked weak after their run. The exceptions of Punk and Bryan both happened despite Vince's best attempts - I remember those Vince, Steph and Hunter promos shoot heeling on the crowds and "internet fans" for hijacking the shows.
They basically seem to hate their core and most loyal audience and there's this amazing tension of wanting to love WWE but it's such a predictable, slick and corporate production that it ends up being the antithesis of what I loved about wrestling; ECW, Attitude Era, NWO, Early 90s...
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Post by simple on Sept 14, 2021 23:01:16 GMT
I think a turning point was when Ryder got himself crazy over off his own back. From then on Vince has been determined than fans should only get who he wants them to get. And that no one is allowed to break out as bigger than the brand.
Its mad because he’s spent literally a decade turning down money because its the wrong type of money.
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Post by rawshark on Sept 14, 2021 23:51:45 GMT
I think a turning point was when Ryder got himself crazy over off his own back. From then on Vince has been determined than fans should only get who he wants them to get. And that no one is allowed to break out as bigger than the brand. Its mad because he’s spent literally a decade turning down money because its the wrong type of money. Or to paraphrase, Rusev Day? FUUUUUCK YOU!!!!
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Post by rawshark on Sept 14, 2021 23:57:48 GMT
They need to turn Big E heel, have him demolish Xavier and Kofi and be the polar opposite to his perma smile saccharine new day gimmick of the last 6 years. Then build Kofi back up to take the belt off him at Mania. I know WWE doesn't have the patience but this would be a perfect story and they have all those years together to draw the heat from. I'd book the fuck outta it. It might look good on paper, but we’ve had the angry black champion a good few times now and Reigns isn’t about to stop being angry on Raw. Let the fans have a black Cena for a bit. If anything I’d say turn a bitter Xavier Woods heel. It pains me to say it but Kofimania was a one-time deal.
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Post by simple on Sept 15, 2021 7:22:32 GMT
The new NXT looks like they’ve taped it at a high school gym
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 15, 2021 7:23:25 GMT
With Brock back they will more than likely turn Reigns face again after Heyman cost him the title. WWE doesn't need anymore heels.
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Post by simple on Sept 15, 2021 7:28:12 GMT
If they could get him back *the* match would be to take the head of the family stuff all the way to Mania where cousin Dwayne comes to set things right
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Post by captbirdseye on Sept 15, 2021 9:42:42 GMT
He looks like Steiner and he is a Steiner but let's just change his name to Bron Breakker.
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Post by simple on Sept 15, 2021 18:25:07 GMT
He looks like Steiner and he is a Steiner but let's just change his name to Bron Breakker. And the dressed as a Steiner. Calling it now that he is debuting on the main roster in or before the Royal Rumble. No way is Vince leaving a big boy like that in the minor leagues.
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Post by baihu1983 on Sept 16, 2021 20:00:58 GMT
Latest Dark side of the ring will be about the plane ride from hell
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