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Post by britesparc on May 4, 2023 23:10:33 GMT
Well... You see examples of the High Evolutionary's experiments, which vary from comedy-gross to quite realistically upsetting semi-surgery.
There are some very violent fight scenes that I think only got OK'd because everyone is an alien.
There are a couple of quite surprisingly graphic moments of "injury detail".
And there's an F-bomb.
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Post by Whizzo on May 4, 2023 23:35:11 GMT
The High Evolutionary is space Josef Mengele but worse, he cares nothing of any of his creations that do not meet his high standards so he's really not above doing anything to achieve his goals and he does.
Also organic space stations are fucking horrible, no more of those please.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 5, 2023 12:59:18 GMT
I know I ask this every time recently, and I know it's kinda a dumb question, but how much does GotG3 spoil events from Infinity War / Endgame?
We've been steadily watching through all the MCU movies and only have Thor 3, Black Panther and Infinity War / Endgame left, so it'd be kinda a shame to spoiler them now.
The GotG movies have always been nicely off doing their own thing, but I'm wondering how much the Gamora stuff is going to focus on her being nu-her and Thanos stuff.
If it's just oblique references then it'll be fine, but if it's like full on flashbacks then...
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Post by Whizzo on May 5, 2023 13:06:58 GMT
The film assumes you've seen the Infinity War films, it's blatant right from the start.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 5, 2023 13:08:00 GMT
Dammit.
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Post by KD on May 5, 2023 13:08:00 GMT
It gets spoken about a few times, one part in detail.
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Post by dfunked on May 5, 2023 13:09:50 GMT
I haven't seen it yet, but from the off it'll be a pretty huge spoiler depending on how they deal with something specific from Infinity War. Gamora dying I'd just suck it up and get the last few films watched first tbh.
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Post by britesparc on May 5, 2023 15:41:48 GMT
Yeah they literally go through the events of those films in great detail in one scene.
Interestingly enough, there will be a few plot points that might be baffling if you haven't seen the Holiday Special.
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Post by KD on May 5, 2023 16:36:12 GMT
That holiday special explains a few changes going into the 3rd film.
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Post by simple on May 5, 2023 20:02:19 GMT
Holiday Special was a lovely little thing. I hope those two have more lines in the new film than the first two, they were such a good comic pairing.
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Post by bichii2 on May 5, 2023 20:20:37 GMT
Oh my word that was amazing. Right up there with my favourite marvel movies. Deffo top 5 maybe top 3.
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Post by britesparc on May 6, 2023 7:42:07 GMT
Yeah, I came out the cinema thinking it was about as good as the previous two Guardians films (which puts it just outside my personal top ten) but the more I think about it, the more I think it's truly, properly excellent.
When it makes its way to D+ I think I'll do a trilogy re-watch and make up my mind.
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Post by Vandelay on May 6, 2023 15:27:12 GMT
Just back and thought it was a good way to spend an afternoon when absolutely nothing whatsoever is happening elsewhere in the country...
Guardians films have been consistently good and this one is no different. For the most part, I thought the flashback sequences elevated it a lot, with the present day sections being less interesting. I'm not really sure why I cared so much about a cartoon racoon and otter, but here we are.
The final act was great though, in a rarity for a Marvel film.
Was a really good send off for them all (not that I really expect them to not return).
Thought Adam Warlock was the weakest part of the film. I assume he is there to setup future things, but felt a bit pointless here.
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Post by britesparc on May 6, 2023 15:30:58 GMT
So, Adam Warlock... I'm only really familiar with the character from the Infinity Gauntlet story, where he's rather imperious and wise. His personality here is obviously deliberately childlike, and I dug that - thought he was very funny - but does that have a bearing in comics? Or is it just invented for this film?
I just wondered whether this would be one of those issues where irritating neckbeard types might get their knickers in a twist...
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Post by Whizzo on May 6, 2023 17:45:43 GMT
I enjoyed Adam Warlock in the Guardians game, he was a bit of a dickhead in that too. Film version he'll probably be back with the new Guardians that are formed in the mid-credits scene, I doubt they'd have got Will Poulter to do it if it was one and done.
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Post by Vandelay on May 6, 2023 18:32:42 GMT
To clarify, I thought the character in the film was enjoyable, just not really necessary for the plot it was telling. Have his first arrival just as some generic grunt and remove him from the rest of the film and I don't think it would make much difference.
I don't know the character besides his appearance in the game (which is a really great game), but maybe those that know him got more out of it.
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 6, 2023 21:04:24 GMT
Just got back from seeing this thoroughly enjoyed this. One of Marvel's strongest films after all the middling shit. I was surprised by the gore/violence of it, felt quite Troma at times which obviously to be expected but I don't think this is one for young kids.
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Post by bichii2 on May 6, 2023 22:19:33 GMT
Yeah it probably should have been a 15 but the kids loved it.
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 7, 2023 17:02:24 GMT
I enjoyed Guardians 3 about the same level at which I enjoyed Quantumania, both being far better than Wakanda Forvever which bored the arse off of me.
My missus, while enjoying it as well, declared that she has never hated a villain in a film more than the High Evolutionary, even more than Dolores Umbridge which is really saying something for her. Anything involving animal abuse sets her right off so she was just furious on behalf of all of the fictional critters.
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Post by Saul1138 on May 8, 2023 2:13:23 GMT
I thought it was an excellent finale to my second favourite MCU series, Captain America is still the best in my humble. Boy was this dark and uncomfortable viewing at times. I agree with others who say donât let the young âuns watch it. Obviously youâre better judges of your own kids, but my sister made the correct decision in deciding to watch it before letting her seven year old see it. But the humour is still there, though dialled back a bit. But Cosmo and Drax steal the best humour in the film. I hope they can convince Batista to return at some point. How theyâve changed the character from what I recall of the comics to this vastly superior version is down to how could an actor he is.
I didnât like how they handled Adam Warlock though. In the comics he came across as aloof, but this version was an unneeded moron, with no character development. 9.5/10
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Post by geefe on May 8, 2023 7:15:29 GMT
Watched the Holiday Special the other day out of boredom and curiosity. It's still not quite a series that really clicks with me but I can appreciate it.
That thing with those two characters - was that mentioned before?
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Post by Onny on May 8, 2023 8:53:13 GMT
Adam Warlock: He did feel a bit underused, but perhaps he is intended for a bigger role in the next Avengers films? And as for the rest: Given the end only mentions Star lord returning, does this mean no more of the other guardians? Batista has said âgoodbyeâ to Drax on social media after all. What a huge shame if thatâs the case, but on the other hand what an excellent send off.
So now to speculate where Star Lord will pop up next..?
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Post by britesparc on May 8, 2023 9:33:34 GMT
To the future... I think - someone correct me - the only cast member to rule out returning is Bautista. Gillan said on the Empire podcast that she loves Nebula and wants to keep playing her, but it would feel weird without Gunn.
My personal theory? We get a Legendary Star-Lord solo movie before Pratt bows out after the next two Avengers. And at least one more Rocket Raccoon and the Guardians movie.
Nebula will return but not Drax or Gamora. And Adam Warlock will get a pretty big character arc, maybe across different films/shows (the Nova TV series?). This will tweak his personality to be more like the Infinity Gauntlet version, and I think he'll have a big role in Secret Wars.
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Post by simple on May 8, 2023 10:00:20 GMT
Its a shame if that person has ruled themselves out. Theyâre tremendous in everything they do nowadays.
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 8, 2023 12:09:22 GMT
Yeah, GotG3 was pretty good. Certainly the best MCU film for quite a while.
Just good all round.
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Post by Saul1138 on May 9, 2023 2:50:15 GMT
One thing that jarred with me, was the mid credits scene. After giving us all that emotional story about the mistreatment of animals; we get the Guardians about to do battle with wild animals. It would have been a nice touch to see them not revert to type.
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 9, 2023 8:06:22 GMT
Been thinking about GotG 3 - I still very much like it, butAdam Warlock really was a bit pointless and felt written in out of obligation more than anything.
He wasn't bad, as such, just largely unnecessary and just pads out the film. Still, as far as franchise bloat goes it's one of the least bad examples.
I really liked that they didn't force a Gamora-falls-for-Starlord plot in, and that despite starting to understand why an alternate version of herself might fall for him, she actually remains fairly distant.
I think all the main characters were very well acted. Bautista will be missed, obviously, but Karen Gillan was also great - Nebulas character development over the films has probably given her one of the most interesting arcs and Gillan plays it very well.
Even Pratt did a good job, probably the best acting I've seen him do.
I think it's also a good example that frankly the MCU films don't need to all be aiming towards a big ongoing story to be good. This is probably the MCU film that's been the most removed from the whole multiverse plotline and the least concerned with setting up future characters (Warlock aside) and it's all the better for it.
Fine, there. Sorry for any spoilers but there's nothing related to characters or plot.
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Post by clemfandango on May 9, 2023 11:57:54 GMT
Been thinking about GotG 3 - I still very much like it, but Adam Warlock really was a bit pointless and felt written in out of obligation more than anything.
He wasn't bad, as such, just largely unnecessary and just pads out the film. Still, as far as franchise bloat goes it's one of the least bad examples.
I really liked that they didn't force a Gamora-falls-for-Starlord plot in, and that despite starting to understand why an alternate version of herself might fall for him, she actually remains fairly distant. I think all the main characters were very well acted. Bautista will be missed, obviously, but Karen Gillan was also great - Nebulas character development over the films has probably given her one of the most interesting arcs and Gillan plays it very well. Even Pratt did a good job, probably the best acting I've seen him do. I think it's also a good example that frankly the MCU films don't need to all be aiming towards a big ongoing story to be good. This is probably the MCU film that's been the most removed from the whole multiverse plotline and the least concerned with setting up future characters (Warlock aside) and it's all the better for it. err is this full of spoilers?
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Post by dfunked on May 9, 2023 12:01:07 GMT
Haha, yeah I wondered the same... "He's spoilered stuff, so the rest must be fine to re...."
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Post by Jambowayoh on May 9, 2023 12:17:12 GMT
Been thinking about GotG 3 - I still very much like it, but Adam Warlock really was a bit pointless and felt written in out of obligation more than anything.
He wasn't bad, as such, just largely unnecessary and just pads out the film. Still, as far as franchise bloat goes it's one of the least bad examples.
I really liked that they didn't force a Gamora-falls-for-Starlord plot in, and that despite starting to understand why an alternate version of herself might fall for him, she actually remains fairly distant. I think all the main characters were very well acted. Bautista will be missed, obviously, but Karen Gillan was also great - Nebulas character development over the films has probably given her one of the most interesting arcs and Gillan plays it very well. Even Pratt did a good job, probably the best acting I've seen him do. I think it's also a good example that frankly the MCU films don't need to all be aiming towards a big ongoing story to be good. This is probably the MCU film that's been the most removed from the whole multiverse plotline and the least concerned with setting up future characters (Warlock aside) and it's all the better for it. err is this full of spoilers? Yes, yes it is.
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