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Post by ToomuchFluffy on May 24, 2023 16:10:25 GMT
Whoever invented "You are leaving the mission area" deserves a good slapping, the little s***!
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Post by deekyfun on May 24, 2023 18:07:34 GMT
"You must gather your party before venturing forth."
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Post by baihu1983 on May 24, 2023 18:09:20 GMT
Shenmue 1 and 2 and other open world games refusing to let you leave an area until you progress a certain part of the story.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on May 25, 2023 6:47:29 GMT
Shenmue 1 and 2 and other open world games refusing to let you leave an area until you progress a certain part of the story. I think this is probably down to execution for me. I remember Drakensang having a bunch of side-areas that could only be entered once you had talked to the relevant questgiver. That seems like it's good design. Not well implemented or elegant of course but it's better than stumbling around in an area that might not function without the quest.
But granted, it can be disorienting or pull you out of the experience. Especially when the rules of the world aren't yet clear.
Conversely, it can also be annoying that a game let's the player go everywhere in the open world, but puts high-level enemies everywhere that cannot be properly interacted with. Like in Cyberpunk for instance. It's especially annoying when there is no reason for why certain enemies would be so much more powerful than other similar enemies in other parts of the map.
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Post by steifybobbins on May 25, 2023 7:19:18 GMT
non functional doors painted onto walls like wile-e-coyote got busy. sometimes they'll make a pretense of saying "it's locked", well is it locked to my axe, motherfucker? the axe that in the last village cleaved the skull of a motherfuckin dragon? yeah, four planks of "locked" wood gonna be all impervious is it? paint a door on a wall and that door damn well better open one way or another THIS! The better games look the more this type of thing totally breaks immersion for me. |
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Post by baihu1983 on May 25, 2023 7:26:56 GMT
Max Payne still has the best locked door ever.
(The wall around it is completely gone).
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Post by RadicalRex on May 25, 2023 12:03:36 GMT
Another thing that Skyrim did right. If there was a door, there was something behind it. You could count the exceptions with the fingers on one hand.
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Post by RadicalRex on Jun 3, 2023 14:12:40 GMT
Metroidvanias not showing you an automap in a new area until you find/buy a map somewhere, like in Hollow Knight. It was a terrible idea in HK already, please everyone don't ape that shit and just give me an automap!
Similarly with map markers having to be bought or found or whatever. What's wrong with just giving you them from the start?
And seriously, generally stop copying HK's and Dark Souls' shitty ideas everywhere! Damn these two games and their hateful influence. If I ever make a game, my advertising will say "No stupid Dark Souls/Hollow Knight mechanics".
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jun 3, 2023 14:22:42 GMT
I heard someone describe Castlevania 3 as 'like Dark Souls' not too long ago
The absolute worst idea copied from DS is that failure needs to be punished
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Post by RadicalRex on Jun 3, 2023 14:32:33 GMT
I heard someone describe Castlevania 3 as 'like Dark Souls' not too long ago No doubt just because it's hard. If only there was a word for "difficult". |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jun 3, 2023 14:47:26 GMT
I heard someone describe Castlevania 3 as 'like Dark Souls' not too long ago No doubt just because it's hard. If only there was a word for "difficult". I literally just started watching this review on YT 15 seconds before Dark Souls is name checked |
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Jun 3, 2023 18:20:54 GMT
I wouldn't say that I hate it when that's not the case, but it's always lovely that when a quest gets generated it then will always exist in the world completely irregardless of the question if I do or do not have it in my quest log. Same for characters recognizing that a quest is already done when I speak to them the first time. Just nice conveniences that make a game world feel more convincing.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jul 4, 2023 21:40:02 GMT
Not so much a mechanic as a personal annoyance, but voice actors doing literally nothing to differentiate one of their characters from another from one game to the next, or even in the same game, bugs me. There are some who genuinely surprise me and I never would have imagined they had such a vocal range, but there are others who just record every single one without variation.
I've heard Brandon Keeners' voice as an absolute shitload of Fallout 4 characters, and then he turns up in the Far Harbour and Nuka World DLCs as other new characters as well, and literally every single one of them, I'm sitting there thinking "You are Garrus Vakarian."
It's even stranger when you hear a voice like that in games before you ever see them in anything live action, pretty much turns me into that meme of diCaprio pointing at the screen in recognition.
Same thing when I was replaying Watch Dogs: Legion last night. Every time Sabine spoke, my mind couldn't stop going "James Kidd/Mary Read from Black Flag".
Star Trek: Resurgence was another recent one, I kept thinking Lieutenant Itasca was actually Evie Frye from Ass Creed: Syndicate wearing alien makeup.
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Post by ToomuchFluffy on Jul 5, 2023 5:45:36 GMT
Good point. One reason why I didn't care for the voice acting in Pillars 2 was simply that most characters and their voices were not memorable. So in the end the important characters still stood out and most of the voice acting just felt unnecessary or worse - annoying.
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Post by convercide on Jul 5, 2023 13:12:58 GMT
Yeah, there was the time where it felt like Nolan North voiced about 90% of male videogame protagonists.
It became such a meme that one of the Saints Row games had his voice option as just 'Nolan North'.
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Post by dogbot on Jul 5, 2023 14:27:53 GMT
Ironically, I'm playing Uncharted 4 at the moment and I can't for the life of me tell who's speaking, Nate or Sam, when they're together.
So much so, I thought North must have voiced both, but nope.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 18:09:29 GMT
Yeah, Troy Baker has long taken Nolan North’s spot as the go-to voice actor for MALE PROTAGONIST. Just as Laura Bailey has taken the female lead spot from Jennifer Hale.
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Post by dogbot on Jul 6, 2023 15:28:51 GMT
Yeah, Troy Baker has long taken Nolan North’s spot as the go-to voice actor for MALE PROTAGONIST. Just as Laura Bailey has taken the female lead spot from Jennifer Hale. Makes sense. I guess part of the issue is that Nate is often hanging off something and Sam is usually out of shot, which doesn't help not being able to see who's lips are moving, which is a huge human conversational thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2023 15:38:39 GMT
They just need to get Matthew Mercer and the guy who played male Ryder in Mass Effect Andromeda into Uncharted 5 as Nate’s other long lost brothers for full Drake confusion.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 6, 2023 16:08:06 GMT
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jul 6, 2023 17:49:18 GMT
I like Molyneux. He is a bit of a twat but he made Theme Park
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jul 6, 2023 17:54:21 GMT
Rollercoaster Tycoon shits all over Theme Park.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jul 6, 2023 17:57:53 GMT
That's not very nice of it
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Post by baihu1983 on Jul 6, 2023 17:57:59 GMT
Loved Theme Park.
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Post by dogbot on Jul 6, 2023 18:00:07 GMT
Rollercoaster Tycoon shits all over Theme Park. Thanks, I hate that DLC. |
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Post by deekyfun on Jul 6, 2023 18:01:22 GMT
What about Syndicate/Theme Hospital/Dungeon Keeper? Was he involved in those?
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Post by baihu1983 on Jul 6, 2023 18:02:57 GMT
What about Syndicate/Theme Hospital/Dungeon Keeper? Was he involved in those? Yep |
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Post by deekyfun on Jul 6, 2023 18:05:46 GMT
Then he can be forgiven as those games all rock.
Tbh, I operate a strict 'if you fall for his shtick after all this time, it's kind of on you' policy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2023 18:07:57 GMT
I mean hell, I like the Fables. They were simplistic even at the time, but they were fun.
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Post by docrob on Jul 6, 2023 22:07:23 GMT
Gimmicky boss fights that depend entirely on using the ability that you just happened to acquire 10 minutes earlier.
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