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Post by monkman5000 on Oct 27, 2024 18:30:36 GMT
Why are Arsenal dropping deep? They still have 11 men, surely the best way to counter losing your better CB is not to defend too deep. It's because Kiwior and Partey neither have the pace nor confidence to play a high line. It just felt like when Gabriel went off you were playing as if you were down to ten men, backs to the wall. |
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 27, 2024 18:30:37 GMT
Can't really complain too much about the result, although the lino missing that late corner is annoying, Arsenal keep 11 on the pitch but fucking hell it didn't feel like it with the injuries.
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Post by peekconfusion on Oct 27, 2024 18:31:57 GMT
It does reinforce just how lucky we were last year with injuries. I can't wait to have a fully fit Odegaard back.
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Post by myk on Oct 27, 2024 18:36:01 GMT
Another frustrating result, but fair on the balance of play. Really need to do work on the ball played into the inside right position, we've been caught out several times this season.
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 27, 2024 18:37:10 GMT
Happy with that. Way better performance level than expected. Arteta's subs actually pretty good at preventing us getting overwhelmed.
We never look like dropping points when we have something approaching a 'normal' side out. It's just we've only had that for about a third of the season so far.
Liverpool were too good not to exploit the make shift defence. Scored the first time we pushed up and left space, post Gabriel. Deserved the draw.
Would like to see that Konate penalty shout again though. Only saw it twice on my stream and I didn't see him get anywhere near the ball.
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 27, 2024 18:39:13 GMT
We basically just need to get through the the new year some what in the title race. Can't afford to drop too many more though. I'd say if we get 10pts behind its too far.
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Post by pierrepressure on Oct 27, 2024 19:45:54 GMT
Buy another couple of full backs in January we'll be fine.
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Post by Frog on Oct 27, 2024 19:53:05 GMT
You can have Dalot, although there is a good chance he will switch off and forget to move as he seems to do it all the time.
Absolute liability of a full back as he has the concentration span of a gnat.
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Post by zisssou on Oct 27, 2024 20:48:05 GMT
Of course I’m worried about the injuries, but our two youngsters don’t look out of place at all.
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Post by harrypalmer on Oct 27, 2024 21:06:53 GMT
Yeah. Much like when Saka broke through, they’re proving themselves in difficult circumstances, they both look special.
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Post by muddyfunster on Oct 27, 2024 22:48:31 GMT
I was particularly impressed with Nwaneri's off the ball work today, really contributed in both directions. The difference in his attitude and work rate between his sub today and Sterling's on Tuesday was enormous.
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Post by mikew1985 on Oct 27, 2024 23:34:22 GMT
So fucking annoyed about that game today.
Should have been completely out of sight by half time. I honestly don't know what else you could do as a manager, we were set up perfectly to exploit West Ham and created numerous really high quality chances but hauled to hit the target. Them half time comes and you know West Ham won't be quite as shit.
As such I was not happy even at 1-1, didn't enjoy the equalizer because I was so annoyed with the players BUT that penalty decision left me completely incandescent with rage, it's inexplicable. What you can't see on MOTD was the game went on for a considerable time before it was called back and then just how long the ref looked at it for.
It was obvious coot still didn't think it was a penalty but felt obligated to award it.
It's an absolutely shambolic decision. A draw is likely how it would have ended which wasn't good enough anyway but by Christ that is never ever a penalty.
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Post by Syrette on Oct 27, 2024 23:52:46 GMT
Can see a manager getting sacked soon, and I include Lopertegui in that.
Some clubs have been utterly disappointing so far this season.
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Post by mikew1985 on Oct 27, 2024 23:56:03 GMT
He is definitely in danger, they were gifted a victory today but they were really really poor in that first half and it was similar the other week against Chelsea.
I mean ETH is definitely going to suffer if this keeps up but I don't think you can objectively look at today's game and blame him. At the end of the jose and ole reigns it was obvious players weren't putting it in effort wise. The effort, organisation and creativity was all there today, that just can't hit the fucking target
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Post by zisssou on Oct 28, 2024 7:53:45 GMT
I’ve only just caught up with the other games. United got robbed there. Another boring VAR decision.
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Post by rftp on Oct 28, 2024 8:56:12 GMT
The penalty was ridiculous, but we're 14th because the manager is clueless and the players are useless.
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Post by monkman5000 on Oct 28, 2024 9:07:39 GMT
Yeah utterly awful decision for the WH penalty. I think the worst thing for me is that it's clearly a case of the junior ref not wanting to go against the 'big name' ref - he made the right call initially but didn't have the balls to stick to it when Oliver questioned it. To suggest that was a clear and obvious error is just ridiculous.
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Post by pierrepressure on Oct 28, 2024 9:19:16 GMT
Another frustrating thing about VAR, what's the point of going to the monitor when you're just going to side with VAR? Have some bloody conviction.
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Post by zisssou on Oct 28, 2024 9:20:12 GMT
The penalty was ridiculous, but we're 14th because the manager is clueless and the players are useless. Yeah that miss will be shown on highlight reels for some time. |
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Post by zisssou on Oct 28, 2024 9:57:54 GMT
Proper 80s English football feel here
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Post by pierrepressure on Oct 28, 2024 11:50:17 GMT
Ten Haag gone.
Boooooooooo!
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Post by rftp on Oct 28, 2024 11:52:36 GMT
About. Fucking. Time.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 28, 2024 11:52:42 GMT
Crikey
Just seen the pen, terrible decision. Especially when contrasted with the Konate one
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Post by rftp on Oct 28, 2024 11:54:58 GMT
Again, it wasn't the penalty decision that put us 14th, with 4 losses in 8 games.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 28, 2024 11:57:25 GMT
Oh, I know. Clearly out of his depth.
Southgate in.
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Post by rftp on Oct 28, 2024 11:58:18 GMT
Oh, I know. Clearly out of his depth. Southgate in. You can really go off people, you know?  |
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Post by Syrette on Oct 28, 2024 11:59:59 GMT
Not sure if Graham Potter would be compatible with Ratcliffe.
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Post by rftp on Oct 28, 2024 12:01:14 GMT
I'm not sure if he's the one, but Xavi's Mrs posted an IG story this morning with their son in a United shirt.
Ten Hag should've been let go after the cup win; at least he could have left with his head held high, on a positive. Now, he looks like an failure, unwilling to compromise or be remotely flexible tactically, or react to changes others made and admit he was wrong.
I worry about the squad of mostly useless ex-Ajax players we've let him build, a great deal. I imagine we'll need another clearout.
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 28, 2024 12:01:47 GMT
Was resigned that this was gonna happen. It is a shame, I did want him to do well and 2 trophies in 2 years is better than most (I think it's even next best of all the current PL managers after Guardiola). But the team hasn't been playing well and there is an argument that he brought in a lot of the players currently and still can't be consistent. We defintely haven't been playing well in spite of all the promise and change of personnel.
Now the next manager has a whole bunch of Dutch players to work with and get the best out of possibly resulting in another clearout. Back to square one.
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Post by Syrette on Oct 28, 2024 12:05:18 GMT
I reckon Van Nistelrooy is now auditioning for the job. That's what I'd do, in my expert opinion.
Not like there's a large market of out of work managers (and the likes of Zidane would be a big gamble), and I'd be a little surprised if they want to spend a lot of money on a manager from another club. Especially if they've got to give Ten Hag and departing staff a few £m too.
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