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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 29, 2023 10:11:42 GMT
I dont know whether its 'the acoustics were so bad' ego stroking but I have seen more than a few people say that one of the reasons people sounded so bad was because the sound is mixed by BBC broadcast engineers rather than actual gig engineers or, in a lot of cases, the bands own engineers, so the mic levels were almost uniformly fucked and the guitars were too loud and so on. Yeah, I've been wondering if it's my TV, but almost all the glasto things i've checked out on iPlayer have had bad vocals. I know live vocals aren't often going to be up to the quality of something recorded and mixed in a studio, but I haven't noticed them sounding this poor before. TV sounds ok for youtube videos of live performances.
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Post by cubby on Jun 29, 2023 11:22:10 GMT
Elton - I loved that he didn't bring out any big names guests but offered that opportunity to lesser known artists. gamingdave here with the sick burn on Brandon Flowers
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Post by gamingdave on Jun 29, 2023 11:41:07 GMT
Anyone here gone with their kids? Looking to go next year with our daughters (5 and 4) be mental but hey ho. Only thing that puts me off is having to get early on Wed to reserve a spot in family camping. I have a couple of mates who take their kids, both have older kids, but one has been taking them since they were toddlers. They both go with people who work there though, and get access to camping areas with more space and better facilities. If you were to take them I would say you want to be in the pre-setup camping (Worthy View or Sticklinch) which have more space and clean toilets but there is no guarantee you will get them, they sell out as fast as tickets, and they don't go on sale till after tickets so by that time you are already committed. In general camping I think it would be more of a struggle and you would need to be their really early, which then makes it long 5 full days. It's a big site and takes a lot of effort getting around even without kids, it can be an endurance test. Those that do generally take trailers with a few blankets and cushions so the kids can rest, and be dragged around site (plus helps you with all your kit getting in) so you will be tired too. They can also stand in them to be able to see the bands, else they are just looking at adults backs all the time. I've seen kids really enjoying themselves even late at night, but I've also seen a lot of really irate kids as well as parents, not just at night but during the day. Honestly, it looks like a real struggle. I wouldn't dream of taking mine, but then as mentioned I've spent time with mates kids there and they do enjoy it and the parents seem to cope just about, but have to go out without partners, taking turns, at night or miss out on that side of the festival. I guess it depends on what you want out if it. If you are just going to flit between the Pyramid and Other stage, with the odd trip to West Hoults and go to bed at 11 each night then maybe. If you want to go to the further afield stages and/or see the late night side of the festival then I would say more likely no.
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Post by gamingdave on Jun 29, 2023 11:43:19 GMT
Elton - I loved that he didn't bring out any big names guests but offered that opportunity to lesser known artists. gamingdave here with the sick burn on Brandon Flowers Well The Killers mean nothing to me, but appreciate he is known. He's not a Britney or the other guests rumoured though.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 29, 2023 13:54:19 GMT
Elton - I loved that he didn't bring out any big names guests but offered that opportunity to lesser known artists. gamingdave here with the sick burn on Brandon Flowers I dunno who he is, but Rina Sawayama is hardly unknown, is she?
It was always pretty odds on that she's appear with him.
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Post by simple on Jun 29, 2023 14:01:33 GMT
I’d never heard of her until she covered Limp Bizkit during her set but then I mainly listen to stuff thats twenty years old or made by my friends.
I did see the Killers at Fibbers in York in 2004 though so they’re on the edge of my cut off.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 29, 2023 14:07:25 GMT
You missed the whole Mercury Music Prize / Brit Awards kerfuffle about her not being eligible, and then them changing the rules? She's in John Wick 4 if that helps I did actually see The Killers at Reading Festival a long while back. They were pretty good iirc. I never knew the name of any of their members though.
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Post by simple on Jun 29, 2023 14:39:36 GMT
Was that when they were on before the Pixies and half the crowd left after they played and didn’t return for the Pixies?
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 29, 2023 15:19:23 GMT
I did see The Pixies at Reading as well, but I don't remember that bit. Could be though. I went to Reading a few years in a row so they've all blurred kinda into one.
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Post by Danno on Jun 29, 2023 15:24:18 GMT
Was that when they were on before the Pixies and half the crowd left after they played and didn’t return for the Pixies? What the fuck is wrong with Killers fans.
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Post by Vortex on Jun 29, 2023 15:32:46 GMT
Who misses the pixies when they're about to appear right in front of where they are already standing in a bit?
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Post by simple on Jun 29, 2023 15:38:42 GMT
A quick Bing tells me it was 2005 with Killers on between QOTSA and Pixies. I remember from where we were it went from packed to a very casual wander down to the front.
Maiden and Foos headlined the other nights to show how few new big bands and headliners have come around in the last 20 years
Got the Speakers Corner band on in the background now. The music is really nice but the guest poets are all very London and very “poetry can create real societal change” types. Its hyper earnest in very naive feeling way. I don’t understand the people in the crowd being moved to tears by it all.
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Post by jimnastics on Jun 29, 2023 15:41:20 GMT
If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was QOTSA / The Killers / Pixies at Reading 2005... I'm not a fan of The Killers but they were big then, as were QOTSA. That's a pretty harsh lead up for the Pixies, I like them but I'm not sure they should have headlined over those two bands at that moment in time, that was Mr Brightside era with Hot Fuss hitting no. 1 on the UK album chart earlier that year, it was massive.
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Post by simple on Jun 29, 2023 15:44:07 GMT
To be fair to the Killers every single on that album was massive and are all of their best songs.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 29, 2023 15:56:05 GMT
Yeah, that looks familiar.
I think I got overly moshed at the front for QotSA, so I went and hung out at the back for Killers which was a bit more chill.
Now you mention it it was pretty easy to wander back near the front for the Pixies.
That's a darn good lineup, though with hindsight there are a bunch of bands that I didn't know at the time that I would definitely have tried to see now.
The National were there? Lil Arctic Monkeys? Russel Brand! (there was a comedy tent?)
PS/ That reminds me, I guess technically I'm in this music video at around the 2 minute mark. My claim to fame! (with 1000s of others)
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Post by simple on Jun 29, 2023 18:00:57 GMT
This was my last major festival. Did ATP a few times but otherwise its just been multi-venue city centre day fests for me.
I love looking down the bill at old festivals like this. Arcade Fire still touring Funeral were very good, I remember dragging mates to see them who weren’t impressed but converted later. The Coral right up there before they disappeared post-Zutons. Million Dead on their last legs with Frank Turner unaware he was just six months from sleeping on my living room floor after playing a solo show at a pub rock/metal club night.
Was the Dirty Sanchez live show just them stapling their cocks and drinking each others puke?
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Post by KD on Jun 29, 2023 18:45:57 GMT
I was sitting in Panchos house last week, sounds like the usual live show for them.
I may be going to next year's Glastonbury, a friend never been so I'll try get us tickets in November and go again after 20 years.
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Post by geefe on Jun 29, 2023 21:55:50 GMT
This was my last major festival. Did ATP a few times but otherwise its just been multi-venue city centre day fests for me. I love looking down the bill at old festivals like this. Arcade Fire still touring Funeral were very good, I remember dragging mates to see them who weren’t impressed but converted later. The Coral right up there before they disappeared post-Zutons. Million Dead on their last legs with Frank Turner unaware he was just six months from sleeping on my living room floor after playing a solo show at a pub rock/metal club night. Was the Dirty Sanchez live show just them stapling their cocks and drinking each others puke? Ha. You've hosted Frank as well. Mixed feelings on the man.
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Post by cubby on Jun 29, 2023 22:12:14 GMT
Who hasn't had frank turner sleep on their living room floor?
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Post by Danno on Jun 29, 2023 22:54:39 GMT
Who hasn't had frank turner sleep on their living room floor? You joke but he gets about. Or got about. To clinics.
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Post by simple on Jun 29, 2023 23:44:35 GMT
Yeah, at my old place we had Frank a few times, and after he graduated to a luxury tour bus we had his support bands too. We used to have bands stay regularly but he’s the only long term repeat offender. I’ve always got on with him but I can see why he’d rub people the wrong way and most of his albums aren’t for me.
I think the coolest band we ever put up was probably Obits who had members of Hot Snakes and Drive Like Jehu in them. A drunk friend kept telling Rick Froberg that he looked like Super Hans.
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Post by geefe on Jun 30, 2023 7:20:20 GMT
He's ok and I gather marriage has really calmed him down but a lot of it was image and bravado. Quite false. Pretty much everyone I know who worked with him thought the image was good and then they met him.
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Post by Lukus on Jun 30, 2023 8:21:21 GMT
I've never understood how he has such a passionate fan base when his music is just not that good. Subjectivity be damned.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 30, 2023 9:44:51 GMT
Genuinely, I am entirely unaware of who he is. None the wiser after a Google too. Ah well.
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Post by Syrette on Jun 30, 2023 9:55:17 GMT
I've never understood how he has such a passionate fan base when his music is just not that good. Subjectivity be damned. I'm guessing partly because Steve Lamacq is a fanboy of his. (I like Lamacq for the record)
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Post by simple on Jun 30, 2023 10:04:16 GMT
Yeah, its a weird one because he had a number one album last year and he’s done arena tours and constantly plays big theatres and decent festival spots and even having been around since day one of his solo stuff I don’t really get who its for. And then he does baffling stuff like NOFX do a covers split album with him and it was them that approached him.
He’s definitely calmed down since marriage but he’s also in his 40s and off the cocaine which probably helps. 10+ years as a cokehead will make a dick of anyone.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 30, 2023 10:27:25 GMT
I liked his first EP, mainly because Thatcher Fucked The Kids was fairly fun if pretty blunt folk-punky song.
He got boring very quickly and I'd lost interest after his first album.
I used to think of him like a shit version of Chris T-T.
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Post by richardiox on Jun 30, 2023 10:27:46 GMT
Add me to the Frank Turner slept here list. Probably about 1999 when he was the singer in Kneejerk and we put them on at a pub in Peterborough. They had just put out a split EP with a (better) band called Abjure, members of whom went on to be in Million Dead and Palehorse.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 30, 2023 10:39:39 GMT
Never remotely understood Turner's popularity.
He's a posho right winger, cosplaying a folk punk.
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Post by simple on Jun 30, 2023 10:48:30 GMT
I’ll give him this, as much as I largely gave up on his albums a long time ago, I’ve never once see him play a bad show. For a bunch of guys who all look like they just got out of the office him and his band are a terrific live act and that’s having seen him play every size of venue between kitchen and arena over nearly twenty years.
His politics have mellowed a bit since the coke days but no one puts their foot in their mouth like he does. I’m not sure he even gets why telling everyone he’s “classically” socially and economically liberal drives so many people crazy.
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