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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 27, 2023 16:24:40 GMT
You're not a fan?
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 27, 2023 16:27:25 GMT
No, I find them somewhat turgid
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 27, 2023 16:33:41 GMT
Fair enough, they were seminal for me in my early 20s BUT I tailed off after AM, their sound just veered off in a direction that felt a bit, for lack of a better word, wanky. I guess the evolution of their sound over the years was most likely a conscious decision to remove part of their fanbase which they didn't really gel well with, i.e. the Fred Perry crowd.
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Post by kal on Jun 27, 2023 16:55:07 GMT
I enjoyed the first album ok at the time but there can’t be many higher profile cases of being less than the sum of their parts than a Soundgarden Rage supergroup sounding like Audioslave did. Probably rock and roll sacrilege but I’ve always thought the Traveling Wilburys were boring as fuck. Has any supergroup really delivered on its promise? Gorillaz maybe.
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Post by simple on Jun 27, 2023 17:03:39 GMT
I can think of more genre specific type examples like Down being members of Pantera, Crowbar, Eyehategod and Corrosion of Conformity but not really big acts with broader appeal.
boygenius get called a supergroup all the time but apart from Phoebe Bridgers I don’t know how well known they all were originally.
I guess if you go right back there’s Cream and Crosby, Stills & Nash but they’re both their own thing really.
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Post by Danno on Jun 27, 2023 17:09:47 GMT
Them Crooked Vultures were pretty fucking good.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 27, 2023 17:13:15 GMT
Obviously, it's The Power Station.
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Post by hicksy on Jun 27, 2023 19:14:03 GMT
Best new Supergroup = Elegant Weapons
Richie Faulkner from Judas Priest, vocalist Ronnie Romero of Rainbow, drummer Christopher Williams from Accept, and bassist Dave Rimmer from Uriah Heep.
If you like Hard Rock/Metal and emotive lyrics it’s a cracker! (Horns for a Halo album) - highly recommended!
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Post by mrpon on Jun 28, 2023 8:22:42 GMT
Velvet Revolver slapped hard for me. Then Scott fucked it up.
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Post by simple on Jun 28, 2023 9:03:14 GMT
I know GnR have been playing basically the exact same set for while now and they’ve always done covers but I am still surprised that Axl sings Slither every night.
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Post by dmukgr on Jun 28, 2023 11:58:05 GMT
I enjoyed the first album ok at the time but there can’t be many higher profile cases of being less than the sum of their parts than a Soundgarden Rage supergroup sounding like Audioslave did. Probably rock and roll sacrilege but I’ve always thought the Traveling Wilburys were boring as fuck. Has any supergroup really delivered on its promise? Gorillaz maybe. Cream for me
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Post by jimnastics on Jun 28, 2023 12:41:48 GMT
Gonna chuck Temple of the Dog into this discussion, because that album is absolutely outstandng and features some of Cornell's best ever vocals and songwriting.
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Post by Lizard on Jun 28, 2023 12:57:24 GMT
McBusted
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Post by dogbot on Jun 28, 2023 12:59:32 GMT
Isn't Temple of the Dog just Pearl Jam with Cornell singing?
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Post by Danno on Jun 28, 2023 13:05:21 GMT
Isn't Temple of the Dog just Pearl Jam with Cornell singing? Indeed, but Ten was released after TotD
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Post by elstoof on Jun 28, 2023 13:40:07 GMT
Pearl Jam were just Mother Love Bone with Eddie Vedder singing
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Post by elstoof on Jun 28, 2023 13:42:23 GMT
Mike Patton’s put together at least 10 supergroups, all bangers
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Post by dogbot on Jun 28, 2023 13:45:59 GMT
Pearl Jam were just Mother Love Bone with Eddie Vedder singing Only two of Pearl Jam were in MLB (Gossard and Ament), as opposed to four, so not quite the same thing. Whatever, I don't think either were "supergroups" really, just bands that followed the breakup of another. I wasn't commenting on whether ToD were any good, fwiw.
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Post by jimnastics on Jun 28, 2023 13:46:30 GMT
Isn't Temple of the Dog just Pearl Jam with Cornell singing? At the time it was Cornell and Cameron from Soundgarden, Mike, Stone and Jeff (and a bit of Eddie on Hunger Strike) from PJ. To be fair maybe as PJ had barely even started at that point it doesn't count as a supergroup....
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Post by dogbot on Jun 28, 2023 13:47:13 GMT
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Post by gamingdave on Jun 28, 2023 14:50:43 GMT
Got back on Monday night, having set off Wednesday morning, and only partly back with the land of the living now. It was hot, very hot, with as usual very little shade which is normally manageable, but the intensity of the sun was something else and the tent was boiling by 8am (so about 4hrs sleep each night). A UV umbrella was a wise investment! The lineup this year really didn't do it for me, certainly not a patch on last year, so I went to whoever others in our group wanted to see most of the time, at least in the day time. Got to see a lot of bands I hadn't before and probably wouldn't pay to see on their own, and a few classics. Spent more time at the Pyramid this year than I did in the last 3 combined. Those I can remember: - Paranoid London - First real set we saw in full on the Thursday. Dirty Acid House played live. Considering it's basically an 808, 909 and 303 through a desk with a few effects units for crunch and distortion its an amazing sound. They are constantly tweaking the filters and cutoffs, but subtly, and manage to make it swing and bounce incredibly.
- Hives - Awesome way to start the first full day. Masses of energy, front man giving his all with great crowd interaction - cocky, but not in a twatish way, more an accomplished rock and roll frontman. A proper festival show. Hadn't seen before, will see again.
- Foo Fighters - Second time seeing them, and they didn't disappoint. Read the crowd perfectly, were clearly enjoying themselves, and put on a storming show.
- 30 Years of V Recordings - DJ set that played the classics. Joy.
- Hot Chip - Not really my scene, but we couldn't be bothered with AM and most wanted to see them. Really enjoyed it, great energy and everyone in the tent was dancing. Would see again in the right setting.
- Generation Sex - Billy Idol and Tony James from Generation X with Steve Jones and Paul Cook from the Sex Pistols. It was a little bit on the cheesy side, but when they played the Pistols numbers it was great fun.
- Manic Street Preachers - Can't say I have ever really been a fan, but a mate wanted to see them and I thought it worth going. I knew a few of the obvious numbers, but it all sounded a bit samey. They played tight (as I would expect) but it was just a bit bland and lacked any spark. Glad to have seen them, but won't be doing so again.
- GnR - I loved Appetite for Destruction when I was a teen, and still think it's a cracking album, but didn't get on with their later output. Watched it with an old school mate from a long way back. We chatted through bits of it, but when they played the hits we came for, they had our full attention and were brilliant. Really was a fun show.
- LTJ Bukem - Late night DJ set at Iiconn which is one of the best late night stages. Absolutely blinding set as always with a good chunk of 90s classics thrown in.
- The Lone Groover - This was a bit special. A mate of mine playing his first Glastonbury up at the Strummerville stage. Only drew a crowd of about 200 but he played a great 30 mins, including another mate of mine getting up to duet with him. Emotional.
- Cat Stevens - My partners grandads (who passed away recently) favourite so we had to go. He put on a great show and I was surprised how many of his set I knew. A lot of tears.
- Blondie - Finally got to see them live and they didn't disappoint. DH looked the business and despite her age belted some of them out. Really fun, and with Glen Matlock on bass, I got to see my 3rd Pistol of the weekend.
- Elton - Never really been a fan (other than Benny and the Jets), but appreciate his contribution and glad to have been there. Amazing (and massive) crowd, well performed, and I loved that he didn't bring out any big names guests but offered that opportunity to lesser known artists.
Saw lot's of acts late night over in the SE corner, but couldn't tell you who most of them were. Only acts I really wanted to see but didn't were Steve Davis and Scalping. The timings didn't work out. Overall a fantastic long weekend. The site is so well designed, the logistics are incredible, and the sound on every stage is world class, I don't know how they manage to make live music outside sound better than most gigs inside at well established venues.
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Post by damagedinc on Jun 28, 2023 15:00:57 GMT
Anyone here gone with their kids? Looking to go next year with our daughters (5 and 4) be mental but hey ho. Only thing that puts me off is having to get early on Wed to reserve a spot in family camping.
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Post by wunty on Jun 28, 2023 15:08:36 GMT
Hives - Awesome way to start the first full day. Masses of energy, front man giving his all with great crowd interaction - cocky, but not in a twatish way, more an accomplished rock and roll frontman. A proper festival show. Hadn't seen before, will see again. That's my opinion of The Hives as well. Saw them when they supported The Offspring last year and I would actually say they were the better band on the night. Bloody great fun.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 29, 2023 4:17:20 GMT
Been trying to catch up on the 100s of hours of sets that iPlayer has.
Looked at some of its Recommended Tracks, and think that might have been a bad idea.
Paradise City by GnR - I think this was the end of the set, and AR's voice is basically non-existent by this point, which is a shame. I think he needs to adjust it to a lower register or something, because he was skipping half the words, and the other half sounded like a squeaky muppet.
Atomic by Blondie - I'd heard that Debbie Harry's voice was still good, but in this one she just sounded like a grandmother singing karaoke.
Maybe I need to stick to younger artists... or the beginnings of sets by oldies.
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Post by Vortex on Jun 29, 2023 7:14:25 GMT
Debbie Harry needed to give up years ago. Her voice is totally shot.
Axl was fine for some, but really needs to drop the screeching to hit the right notes these days.
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Post by damagedinc on Jun 29, 2023 7:22:25 GMT
Debbie Harry needed to give up years ago. Her voice is totally shot. Axl was fine for some, but really needs to drop the screeching to hit the right notes these days. Shes close to her 80s and fully intends on going out swinging. Fair play to her. My nan was drinking through a straw at her age. She gets a free pass in my book haha
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 29, 2023 8:21:37 GMT
I dont know whether its 'the acoustics were so bad' ego stroking but I have seen more than a few people say that one of the reasons people sounded so bad was because the sound is mixed by BBC broadcast engineers rather than actual gig engineers or, in a lot of cases, the bands own engineers, so the mic levels were almost uniformly fucked and the guitars were too loud and so on.
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Post by Vortex on Jun 29, 2023 8:29:47 GMT
Debbie Harry needed to give up years ago. Her voice is totally shot. Axl was fine for some, but really needs to drop the screeching to hit the right notes these days. Shes close to her 80s and fully intends on going out swinging. Fair play to her. My nan was drinking through a straw at her age. She gets a free pass in my book haha I saw Blondie about 20 years ago and they were mostly fine. She could still hit the right notes and high notes on most of the songs and on a few songs 'Maria' included did make the hairs on the neck stand up. Her voice is gone now and it's definitely not a mixing desk thing! The vocals for axl were well down to start with for sure though, but he still needs to sing lower to actually be able to do it passably these days.
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Post by Saul1138 on Jun 29, 2023 9:50:57 GMT
Got back on Monday night, having set off Wednesday morning, and only partly back with the land of the living now. It was hot, very hot, with as usual very little shade which is normally manageable, but the intensity of the sun was something else and the tent was boiling by 8am (so about 4hrs sleep each night). A UV umbrella was a wise investment! The lineup this year really didn't do it for me, certainly not a patch on last year, so I went to whoever others in our group wanted to see most of the time, at least in the day time. Got to see a lot of bands I hadn't before and probably wouldn't pay to see on their own, and a few classics. Spent more time at the Pyramid this year than I did in the last 3 combined. Those I can remember: - Paranoid London - First real set we saw in full on the Thursday. Dirty Acid House played live. Considering it's basically an 808, 909 and 303 through a desk with a few effects units for crunch and distortion its an amazing sound. They are constantly tweaking the filters and cutoffs, but subtly, and manage to make it swing and bounce incredibly.
- Hives - Awesome way to start the first full day. Masses of energy, front man giving his all with great crowd interaction - cocky, but not in a twatish way, more an accomplished rock and roll frontman. A proper festival show. Hadn't seen before, will see again.
- Foo Fighters - Second time seeing them, and they didn't disappoint. Read the crowd perfectly, were clearly enjoying themselves, and put on a storming show.
- 30 Years of V Recordings - DJ set that played the classics. Joy.
- Hot Chip - Not really my scene, but we couldn't be bothered with AM and most wanted to see them. Really enjoyed it, great energy and everyone in the tent was dancing. Would see again in the right setting.
- Generation Sex - Billy Idol and Tony James from Generation X with Steve Jones and Paul Cook from the Sex Pistols. It was a little bit on the cheesy side, but when they played the Pistols numbers it was great fun.
- Manic Street Preachers - Can't say I have ever really been a fan, but a mate wanted to see them and I thought it worth going. I knew a few of the obvious numbers, but it all sounded a bit samey. They played tight (as I would expect) but it was just a bit bland and lacked any spark. Glad to have seen them, but won't be doing so again.
- GnR - I loved Appetite for Destruction when I was a teen, and still think it's a cracking album, but didn't get on with their later output. Watched it with an old school mate from a long way back. We chatted through bits of it, but when they played the hits we came for, they had our full attention and were brilliant. Really was a fun show.
- LTJ Bukem - Late night DJ set at Iiconn which is one of the best late night stages. Absolutely blinding set as always with a good chunk of 90s classics thrown in.
- The Lone Groover - This was a bit special. A mate of mine playing his first Glastonbury up at the Strummerville stage. Only drew a crowd of about 200 but he played a great 30 mins, including another mate of mine getting up to duet with him. Emotional.
- Cat Stevens - My partners grandads (who passed away recently) favourite so we had to go. He put on a great show and I was surprised how many of his set I knew. A lot of tears.
- Blondie - Finally got to see them live and they didn't disappoint. DH looked the business and despite her age belted some of them out. Really fun, and with Glen Matlock on bass, I got to see my 3rd Pistol of the weekend.
- Elton - Never really been a fan (other than Benny and the Jets), but appreciate his contribution and glad to have been there. Amazing (and massive) crowd, well performed, and I loved that he didn't bring out any big names guests but offered that opportunity to lesser known artists.
Saw lot's of acts late night over in the SE corner, but couldn't tell you who most of them were. Only acts I really wanted to see but didn't were Steve Davis and Scalping. The timings didn't work out. Overall a fantastic long weekend. The site is so well designed, the logistics are incredible, and the sound on every stage is world class, I don't know how they manage to make live music outside sound better than most gigs inside at well established venues. Re the Manics, they played more than a few songs that haven’t been played live in a couple of years. If it wasn’t your thing, that’s cool. But they didn’t turn up and play a greatest hits set, which, at a festival, is pretty brave. I have only caught a few acts on IPlayer, but the audio, especially the vocalists, seemed shite. Bongo’s assessment that the BBC sound engineers maybe responsible seems plausible. At least they have dropped the here is an exclusive, back stage, acoustic show, whilst every stage has a live act with a crowd. But the BBC should fuck off from all live gigs. As should those whitless, misogynistic cunts that took umbrage with Billy. I’ll be honest, I haven’t seen it yet, but the comments I have seen a vile. Worse than the cunts complaining the Elton didn’t deliver on the calibre of guest artists he promised. Those cunts should remind me of the line up when they bought their tickets in less than ten minutes of them going on sale.
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Post by simple on Jun 29, 2023 10:04:18 GMT
Apart from Slash being way louder than Axl in the mix I haven’t noticed anything unusual across the sets I’ve watched. It probably makes sense of the BBC to try and add its own polish to its broadcast from the festival, if you ever watch footage from festivals like Rock in Rio that are clearly using the live concert audio for their broadcast everyone sounds like utter shit.
I did wonder at times if part of the reason Axl was being buried in the mix was because they were trying to disguise his more strained vocal moments. Although that genuinely was the best footage of him singing live in ages.
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