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Post by geefe on Jul 14, 2022 8:35:15 GMT
Changing circumstances means I'll be living on my own and I've just seen 2 historical sales of a house on my street on Zoopla that is very similar to mine
1995 - £37k
1998 - £43k
I'm Band B for a 2 bed terrace (however there was a loft conversion when I moved in). I did a Nationwide valuation check via Martin Lewis and it's SCRAPED Band B by about £400.
Everyone else in the street is band B but it's such fine margins, with the zoopla info, is it worth challenging?
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Post by dogbot on Jul 14, 2022 9:01:50 GMT
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Post by Dougs on Jul 14, 2022 9:14:16 GMT
They updated the valuations recentlyish I thought
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Post by dfunked on Jul 14, 2022 9:15:09 GMT
I've been using forums for the past 20+ years and just had to google e2a...
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Post by elstoof on Jul 14, 2022 9:17:22 GMT
It’s got to be unlikely they’ll just let you off paying less than everyone else on the street because you’re only over the threshold by £400. You’ll be entitled to a single occupancy discount though right?
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Post by dogbot on Jul 14, 2022 9:20:12 GMT
They updated the valuations recentlyish I thought Not that I'm aware of. Although, I'm not an expert on this. When we moved last year, the notification letter we got said that band was based on the 91 valuation. |
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Post by askew on Jul 14, 2022 9:31:37 GMT
I've been using forums for the past 20+ years and just had to google e2a... It's the yoof version of ETA |
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Post by dfunked on Jul 14, 2022 9:32:40 GMT
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Post by dogbot on Jul 14, 2022 9:35:10 GMT
I've been using forums for the past 20+ years and just had to google e2a... It's the yoof version of ETA It's sweet of you to call me a yoof  |
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Post by Dougs on Jul 14, 2022 10:22:02 GMT
They updated the valuations recentlyish I thought Not that I'm aware of. Although, I'm not an expert on this. When we moved last year, the notification letter we got said that band was based on the 91 valuation. Must have been something that was mooted but not followed through. Wales are doing another revaluation though. |
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Post by dogbot on Jul 14, 2022 10:26:48 GMT
Dougs could still be in the process of going through, perhaps?
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Post by Dougs on Jul 14, 2022 10:29:13 GMT
I've had a quick Google but can't see anything. Might have been a random manifesto commitment or something. Used to deal with business rates and the voa quite a bit so could have been a proposal I saw somewhere. Or I am just plain imagining things, which is just as likely!
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Post by Sarfrin on Jul 14, 2022 16:25:37 GMT
Pretty sure it was mooted nationally at some point. I remember a fuss about it.
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Post by dmukgr on Jul 14, 2022 17:09:48 GMT
I can’t see them doing it - too expensive.
I successfully got mine reduced comparing to neighbouring properties being provenly worth more due to factors such as size, garden, rooms etc.
The tribunal was fun, I sat in others beforehand and most people turn up with no evidence and just say it’s not fair etc. so no wonder most cases get rejected. The three judicators seemed genuinely pleased someone had done some homework and seemed to want to help by asking me questions that hinted at what they wanted to hear, but were against the council guy who they destroyed in as polite a way as they could.
Fwiw, I went band f to band e.
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Post by geefe on Jul 14, 2022 17:30:21 GMT
I'd be going from a B to A and there's no chance it goes up to C because my house would have to be worth about £220k now, which it defo isn't.
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Post by dmukgr on Jul 14, 2022 21:33:26 GMT
Find some band a within half the mile that are comparable to yours and your golden. If you can’t find any then you won’t be in with much of a chance unfortunately.
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Post by geefe on Jul 15, 2022 10:25:39 GMT
Find some band a within half the mile that are comparable to yours and your golden. If you can’t find any then you won’t be in with much of a chance unfortunately. Thanks for this. Just done some searches and gone out to have a look - fuck me, the inconsistency around my area. Two houses next to each other that are the same - two different bands. I'm a 2 bed end terrace in band B but a 3 bed down the road - Band A. |
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Post by dmukgr on Jul 15, 2022 10:31:05 GMT
Disparancies can be either an extension that you can't see that bumped one up, or that someone has successfully had their's reduced in the past.
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Post by geefe on Jul 15, 2022 10:34:36 GMT
Disparancies can be either an extension that you can't see that bumped one up, or that someone has successfully had their's reduced in the past. How did you get to a tribunal? |
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Post by dmukgr on Jul 15, 2022 10:52:18 GMT
I applied for a reduction and lost the case with a guy from the council coming around to do an assessment and saying the current band was fair. With the notification that I had lost I was told I could appeal but that it wasn't really worth it as less than 3% of applications ever get reduced anyway and that most accepted reductions are done without a need for an appeal. I figured I could spare the time off work so went for it anyway. The hour or two beforehand looking at prioir cases helped me realise why most failed and gave me some confidence and then it was just a case of presenting the evidance and getting the ajudicators on side  |
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Post by dmukgr on Jul 15, 2022 10:52:41 GMT
None of this cost anything btw (besides my time).
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Post by geefe on Jul 15, 2022 11:05:55 GMT
Brilliant. My evidence thus far would be
- similar houses on neighbouring streets are Band A (based on bedrooms, floorplan and garden space)
- nationwide calculator puts an estimate within £700 of the threshold
- houses on my street historically sold for under or around £40k well into the late 1990s
Was that the kind of evidence they'd want to see?
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Post by BoyNukem on Jul 15, 2022 11:27:52 GMT
I had a nightmare a couple of years ago trying to get our tax band changed. I had a 3 bedroom flat, that was 2 floors of a 3 floor house, the ground floor being a separate flat. The tax band for the house was D, and so the council were charging both flats at that rate, double dipping, sometimes triple dipping as other houses were 3 separate flats. Every house on the street, and surrounding ones, were also D so the council wouldn't even entertain the idea of changing it. Good old Stockport council.
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Post by dmukgr on Jul 15, 2022 12:01:34 GMT
Brilliant. My evidence thus far would be - similar houses on neighbouring streets are Band A (based on bedrooms, floorplan and garden space) - nationwide calculator puts an estimate within £700 of the threshold - houses on my street historically sold for under or around £40k well into the late 1990s Was that the kind of evidence they'd want to see? Yeah, have it all typed up in tabulated form, showing your calulations (RightMove floorplans, sold house prices, council band tables for the houses that are favourabile to yours, and you should win I would have thought. |
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Post by technoish on Jul 15, 2022 13:21:30 GMT
I challenged my valuation after they put it up when we moved in, as our house is the only one on the street of identical houses that is band F, while they are all E. It said it was going up because previous owner had an extension done, but at least three others have the same loft extension and in some cases also much larger gardens and/or additional ground floor extensions.
I may have landed my neighbours in it.
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Post by dfunked on Jul 15, 2022 13:23:13 GMT
Do you get an unusual amount of burning bags of dog poo on your doorstep?...
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Post by elstoof on Jul 15, 2022 13:25:14 GMT
How many would become an unusual amount? 12? 15?
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Post by Sarfrin on Jul 15, 2022 21:32:37 GMT
How many would become an unusual amount? 12? 15? One. What have you done to your neighbours? |
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Post by elstoof on Jul 15, 2022 21:47:48 GMT
Nothing I wouldn’t do to anyone here
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Post by Zuluhero on Jul 16, 2022 18:22:21 GMT
You probably already know this, but if you live on your own you can get a sole occupant discount, which is something like 25% off?
Might be easier than a band dispute, which might back fire.
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