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Post by nemesis on May 14, 2022 9:00:29 GMT
Some people only listen upwards and you'd be wise not to invest any energy into it. As I've found out a few too many times. . .
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 14, 2022 15:42:29 GMT
One of the deputy managers is away on holiday this weekend. I walked in at 8 this morning to find she'd phoned up at 7.30 to leave a message for me, instructing me not only to do the same tasks I do every weekend, but how to do them. With an actual list of directions on which buttons to click and what information to enter.
I have been in this company for nearly a decade now, with a further decade before that in an incredibly similar other place, I've been repeatedly drafted to help out in five other branches besides ours when they were short-handed or were having building refits (it will be six by the end of this month, in fact), and proved myself competent enough that other branches have repeatedly tried to persuade me to transfer. Yet to this woman, somehow every day is my first day on the job.
I'm not the only one who gets this treatment, many others have complained about the same thing. Her tendency to project stress onto other people is as exasperating as her tendency to interrupt and talk over you. I've often found the best course of action is to simply nod and smile when she tells us to do something utterly illogical, and just get on with what actually needs doing before we get further problems down the line.
For the record, this is the same person we got on perfectly well without for 8 entire months while she was furloughed during the first lockdown* for vulnerable health reasons, the fact of which led some of the other management to wonder why exactly her job role is needed when the tasks she does can just as easily be divided up between a few other staff at lesser cost in terms of wages and time.
I mean, I've dealt with far worse managers in my time (seperately: Embezzlement; Refusal to acknowledge symptoms of early onset dementia; Blatant alcoholism; Complete fuckwit hired through nepotism who I wouldn't have trusted to open an automatic door on their own without putting every emergency service on standby including the coast guard; Counting the days till retirement and had mentally checked out already; Openly talking about being a feeder.) but the day to day grind of it gets you down.
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* We were allowed to open for a click and collect service. I miss those days.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 16:56:25 GMT
I don’t mind my job, a lot of it is quite enjoyable. However I’m not sure about my manager She’s very highly thought of within the business but actually doesn’t do any work and doesn’t know a lot of the basics of the job. She surrounds herself with people who are actually capable and fobs all her work off on them, even if it’s nothing to do with their role. And then she takes the credit when the task is completed It’s a very strange was of managing but seems quite successful so far I am like that (though I try not to take the credit.) I used to feel real imposter syndrome etc, and was open with my bosses that I do very little and rely on people in my team to get stuff done. I was told that is great and they don't care, it's actually a really good skill to know WHO to delegate to, know who knows things and just ensure shit is done. I keep getting promoted and all my projects are very successful, I always guilty about it, but have learned to love with it. Basically my job now is to get anything that is broken in the company passed to me as I will always fix it.* *will do nothing personally but will actually get it fixed by passing it to the right people
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on May 14, 2022 19:33:33 GMT
One of the deputy managers is away on holiday this weekend. I walked in at 8 this morning to find she'd phoned up at 7.30 to leave a message for me, instructing me not only to do the same tasks I do every weekend, but how to do them. With an actual list of directions on which buttons to click and what information to enter.
I have been in this company for nearly a decade now, with a further decade before that in an incredibly similar other place, I've been repeatedly drafted to help out in five other branches besides ours when they were short-handed or were having building refits (it will be six by the end of this month, in fact), and proved myself competent enough that other branches have repeatedly tried to persuade me to transfer. Yet to this woman, somehow every day is my first day on the job.
I'm not the only one who gets this treatment, many others have complained about the same thing. Her tendency to project stress onto other people is as exasperating as her tendency to interrupt and talk over you. I've often found the best course of action is to simply nod and smile when she tells us to do something utterly illogical, and just get on with what actually needs doing before we get further problems down the line.
For the record, this is the same person we got on perfectly well without for 8 entire months while she was furloughed during the first lockdown* for vulnerable health reasons, the fact of which led some of the other management to wonder why exactly her job role is needed when the tasks she does can just as easily be divided up between a few other staff at lesser cost in terms of wages and time.
I mean, I've dealt with far worse managers in my time (seperately: Embezzlement; Refusal to acknowledge symptoms of early onset dementia; Blatant alcoholism; Complete fuckwit hired through nepotism who I wouldn't have trusted to open an automatic door on their own without putting every emergency service on standby including the coast guard; Counting the days till retirement and had mentally checked out already; Openly talking about being a feeder.) but the day to day grind of it gets you down.
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* We were allowed to open for a click and collect service. I miss those days.
FHUTA?
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Post by スコットランド on May 14, 2022 21:44:51 GMT
I've been working 12 hours so far today, several times a year we do a new software release over the weekend so no fun Saturday for me. Poor.little.bunny.
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Post by dfunked on May 14, 2022 22:16:13 GMT
Weekend releases can get in the fucking sea! They tried pulling the old "you're on call this weekend, so obviously that means you need to support our code release" bullshit in my last place. Yeah, fuck off. Unless I'm a named resource I'm not touching it.
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Post by simple on May 17, 2022 17:21:04 GMT
Gave out some wellbeing advice to the parent of one of our students this morning. Important but fairly standard stuff. Essentially telling them what they could tell their kid so that the kid would come onto campus and speaking to the support team. Assumption being they’d set her up with some deadline extensions and maybe put her in touch with the counselling team. Like I said, the parent said the student wasn’t a harm risk so standard stuff for the exams period.
Got a call just after 5 from the general enquiry desk. The student had come in to speak to support and been sent away because it was too late for a deadline extension so they couldn’t help.
The student is now in hospital.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 17:26:09 GMT
Oh damn. That's awful to read. Hope she pulls through, and that the incident is a wake up call to take their child's well-being more seriously and get the help she needs.
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Post by quadfather on May 17, 2022 17:30:16 GMT
Fucking managers.
I've had 3 at my place now.
First one is an attention deficit twat and things went pear shaped all the time
Second one was ace and everything was dandy. Just got shit done and that was the end of it.
Third one is a massive bellend. Probably has "I love corporate" tattooes. It's like running through a vat of molasses trying to get any fucking thing done.
Twats.
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Post by simple on May 17, 2022 17:33:16 GMT
Feeling pretty guilty and fucked off that I’d given all the advice I could and then it wasn’t properly picked up when they actually came in. The big thing for us is even mild concerns get them in and they’ll be set up with the appropriate help but this lass got bounced by the service rather than her circumstances looked into.
I know they’re busy but it feels like it should’ve been avoidable.
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Post by dominalien on May 18, 2022 5:31:14 GMT
I just copy cells from one spreadsheet to another all day. I’d like to get another job, but I have 0 skills apart from that so it’d involve the same thing just in a different place.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on May 18, 2022 7:26:44 GMT
I just copy cells from one spreadsheet to another all day. I’d like to get another job, but I have 0 skills apart from that so it’d involve the same thing just in a different place. Maybe you could teach yourself VBA or better still some python to automate that shit? I used to be surrounded by people in other teams that did stuff like that. The transport fleet team had to generate a fuel report every month for all vehicles and it took nearly 2 weeks to do. Each time. I wrote them a VBA macro and it would generate that same report within 30 seconds.
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Post by dominalien on May 18, 2022 7:53:55 GMT
Heh, I guess I should. I just need to figure out how to find errors in the data people input by hand and there are quite a lot of them. I correct those when doing the copy-pastes.
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Post by dfunked on May 18, 2022 7:55:30 GMT
Risky game though, could end up putting yourself out of a job.
Had to laugh at a Reddit post a while back from someone who did the same kind of thing while WFH. They just spent their day gaming and checked in at lunch time to see if the stuff they'd automated was running OK.
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Post by dominalien on May 18, 2022 8:14:27 GMT
There was also this story about some dude who outsourced his job to a Chinese company for something like 1/3 of his pay and was discovered because someone finally realised there was a constant VPN connection to his computer from outside.
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Post by suicida on May 18, 2022 8:56:10 GMT
There was also this story about some dude who outsourced his job to a Chinese company for something like 1/3 of his pay and was discovered because someone finally realised there was a constant VPN connection to his computer from outside. I remember that! Just looked it up and it was back in 2013. I loved that story xD www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21043693
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Post by Reviewer on May 18, 2022 9:07:22 GMT
One of my people put in a request for new headphones so she can listen to her laptop at home/in the office (training videos etc.). Our IT department said no, she said that she’ll keep using the headphones she’s got.
Are people fucking stupid? Ignoring that she’s supposed to ask me first, and I’d have said no anyway.
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 19, 2022 18:11:48 GMT
Never any praise for a job well done, but even a hint of an error that turns out to be system based rather than human, and they're all over you like flies round a dead dogs' arsehole.
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Post by H-alphaFox on May 20, 2022 7:18:16 GMT
Panic woke up a 6am because I missed a deadline yesterday, started scanning stuff and woke the missus up. Sure enough was berated for missing the deadline when I opened my emails and turns out another from last week was missed as the email was in saved drafts and not sent. My fault, started scanning stuff last night and stopped half way and made dinner and had a few drinks and last weeks one I had no idea about as thought it was sent. Not so much that I get in trouble here but it could reflect badly on my students, hopefully not but just a shitty way to start a day.
Now I have been up for 3 hours, had too much coffee and need a nap.
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Post by Reviewer on May 24, 2022 15:18:28 GMT
My place has decided retaining people is important, to do this we’re supposed to do our own assessment and own development plan.
Bearing in mind that every time there’s been a vacancy in the last 5 years they just bring in people from another department with no knowledge or experience of the roles, but they’re senior enough, then I’m definitely not bothering.
Maybe pay people more based on performance and/or use the reward scheme to retain the people? My boss never does it because he does loads and also doesn’t get rewarded.
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Post by retro74 on May 24, 2022 15:58:36 GMT
I don’t mind my job, a lot of it is quite enjoyable. However I’m not sure about my manager She’s very highly thought of within the business but actually doesn’t do any work and doesn’t know a lot of the basics of the job. She surrounds herself with people who are actually capable and fobs all her work off on them, even if it’s nothing to do with their role. And then she takes the credit when the task is completed It’s a very strange was of managing but seems quite successful so far Maybe not that successful after all, she left the business yesterday. All very short notice, hush-hush sort of thing Now I have her work as well as my own
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Post by dmukgr on May 24, 2022 16:02:37 GMT
Doesn't matter - she didn't do any work
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 28, 2022 10:04:10 GMT
One of the newer guys at work just started trying to evangelise to me. This is going to become an issue.
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Post by Danno on May 28, 2022 10:13:46 GMT
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Post by dogbot on May 28, 2022 10:40:40 GMT
Yeah, I'd be tempted to tell him I'm already a member of the Church of [insert something ridiculous here] and proceed to evangelise right back. He'll probably stop pretty quick.
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 28, 2022 15:27:53 GMT
You know that bit in Peep Show where Sophie tells Mark she's got some news for him, and in his head he says "Please don't say you're pregnant, please don't say you're pregnant..." and she does, and he screams "FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKK" ?
Exactly that, but replace "Pregnant" with "Evangelical"
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 14, 2022 15:34:04 GMT
For fucks sake. If I ask someone a simple work-related question, all I need is a simple answer so I can deal with the issue at hand and get on with the job. I don't need the guy to be a sarcastic fucking bell-end in their response, and you're drawing it out so long it's delaying both of us unnecessarily. In the time it's taken you to go through your "I think I'm an edgy comedian at your expense" routine, I could have closed this issue and dealt with another two or three.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Jun 14, 2022 16:07:22 GMT
Frankly it seems you could have condensed that into a much shorter sentence.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 14, 2022 16:43:35 GMT
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jul 4, 2022 15:25:41 GMT
So, I found myself being volunteered to do three weeks of twelve hour night shifts away from home at very short notice to provide cover for someone who'd gone off sick.
Was initially told the shifts would be from 9pm to 9am.
They booked ne into a nicer hotel than the previous one the last time I had to do this, and it's only a short walk from the job so I don't have to faff around with getting reimbursed for taxis.
The hotel package gives me food allowance for breakfast and dinner. By the time I get back from the shifts, I would have missed their breakfast window, but the dinner one would have been fine.
So I get to the job yesterday and they tell me that there was a miscommunication about the times, and they had me down for 6pm to 6am shifts, but nobody had bothered to tell the area manager this so it wasn't passed on to me.
Also, the hotel is in the middle of a refurbishment, so during the day while I'm trying to sleep, there is building work going on inside and out.
So after being awake for about 26 hours already, I climb into bed this morning and only manage to get maybe an hour or two of fitful sleep while the thin walls and loud bastards means I can hear every sound, and the blackout curtains in the room don't quite reach all the way across so there's an annoying sliver of light still getting in.
So I figure at least I can get some dinner before I head in tonight for a 6pm start.
Bar manager: "Yeah, sorry, the restaurant doesn't open till 7."
So I am now sitting in the hotel bar with a pint of Stowford thinking that the McDonald's up the road with what might be the slowest staff in the world, or the KFC opposite them with the runners up in slow staff are my only two options for dinner.
Normally, this would have been fine with me but I was intent on using these three weeks of hard work to lose a bit of weight and for the first time in my life, fast food doesn't seem appealing.
At least I can get the hotel breakfast when I get back tomorrow morning. Although at this point, with my luck I'll probably find the kitchen staff have gone on strike or something.
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