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Post by dfunked on Nov 2, 2022 8:29:06 GMT
It's been a bloody weird October. Unseasonably warm, so we've only had our heating on once for a few hours too. It's going to make the shock of the cost when it gets properly cold even worse!
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Post by Binky on Nov 2, 2022 9:06:49 GMT
I've been thinking about this on my morning walk. I, like many people I'm sure, never really paid much attention to the cost of all of this. With my example of the heating on for 3 hours costing nearly a £1 an hour, would this more likely be the cost of firing up from stone cold and getting everything up to temp? Would it then even out and more likely cost a couple of pence per hour regulating?
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Post by dogbot on Nov 2, 2022 9:19:08 GMT
I believe that the conventional wisdom is that it's cheaper/more cost effective to set your thermostat to a specific desired temperature and leave the heating on IF your house is well insulated and does not lose heat.
But if it's less well insulated, it's usually better to switch it off and on as required.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 2, 2022 9:36:43 GMT
£3.40 by 9am again. Lovely. I like seeing my money almost literally burn.
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Post by henroben on Nov 2, 2022 10:04:57 GMT
I've been thinking about this on my morning walk. I, like many people I'm sure, never really paid much attention to the cost of all of this. With my example of the heating on for 3 hours costing nearly a £1 an hour, would this more likely be the cost of firing up from stone cold and getting everything up to temp? Would it then even out and more likely cost a couple of pence per hour regulating? As far as I'm aware, it's always cheaper in the long run to fire it up and heat when you need it, rather than running it constantly to regulate the temperate. There's no point in heating an empty house when you're at work, or heating it while you're tucked up in bed for example. It's always expensive in energy to either heat something up, or cool it down. I think we're all going to have to get used to wearing more jumpers in the winter again!
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Post by Binky on Nov 2, 2022 10:17:28 GMT
Yeah perhaps "regulate" was the wrong choice of word. What I meant was that the initial £2-3 to get things to temperature wouldn't be indicative of the cost over, say, a whole afternoon/evening. It likely costs the most to get up to temperature then it's not so bad for the next few hours.
I'm sure we'll find out once it gets properly cold.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 2, 2022 10:30:47 GMT
Yeah perhaps "regulate" was the wrong choice of word. What I meant was that the initial £2-3 to get things to temperature wouldn't be indicative of the cost over, say, a whole afternoon/evening. It likely costs the most to get up to temperature then it's not so bad for the next few hours. I'm sure we'll find out once it gets properly cold. Yeah this is the point of keeping a room at temperature, if you let the room or house cool down to a very low temperature when you're not there then it's going to take a lot more energy to get it back up to the temperature you want when you're there. That doesn't mean keep the heating on though, you should set your thermostat to a lower temp by a few C when you're not at home or in bed than when you're home at sitting on your arse wanting it warm. When you're out of the house for days then yeah keep it really low, obviously not freezing
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Post by henroben on Nov 2, 2022 10:33:45 GMT
I'm not sure tbh, but my gut feeling is that you won't see any savings doing that, but I could well be wrong! I'd have thought the energy used to heat the house up from cold will simply be used over the extend hours you have the boiler switched on. But I guess it really depends on how well your house is insulated and how quickly it cools down. Certainly the energy savings trust & money saving expert think it's better to only heat when you need it.
I guess we'll all be finding out one way or the other this winter...
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Post by technoish on Nov 2, 2022 10:52:31 GMT
If you keep heating on but lower the boiler temp it will probably run more efficiently, and keep the fabric of the building warmed up. Fancy boilers come with weather compensation that lower the temp when it isn't so cold outside but increase when it is. But I do it manually. Given it really isnt very cold right now, you can have temps much lower.
Low n slow, like how I like my BBQ.
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Post by nexus6 on Nov 2, 2022 10:57:16 GMT
As the original poster stated, it will be very dependant on the level of insulation in your house. A fair bit of energy will at first go in to heating the fabric of the building - the cold brick walls, the concrete floor etc before the temp increases in the air.
That will then act as a little heat sink if its well insulated - the heat will remain in the house and you'll heat the air more. If there is no insulation it will seep out as soon as the heating goes off to begin the cycle again.
There is a time involved in making the air change temp and this is where the cost is in my opinion.
My house - I got the insulation taken out so now we wear jumpers, have a hot water bottle for the kiddies at night if needs be, and have the middle class stove on in the living room.
Although its baltic just now and I'm sitting with shorts on!
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Post by EMarkM on Nov 2, 2022 11:30:12 GMT
Well, Bing informs me that sexy, sexy Carol Vorderman insulates her home, so there you go.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 2, 2022 11:53:37 GMT
Arses. Seems my washing machine has died. Came downstairs Monday morning and found the sockets had tripped...and now getting nothing from the machine (which is a French model, plugged in with a travel adapter). I suspect the motherboard has blown - power is getting to the board but nothing is turning on. I could replace the board for £76....
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Post by dfunked on Nov 2, 2022 11:57:52 GMT
What kind of adapter? You were definitely using one rated for the kind of load a washing machine uses?
Sounds a wee bit janky compared to just changing the plug.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 2, 2022 11:59:13 GMT
I was being very lazy! It's been fine for over a year but clearly fucked it somehow. Ah well.
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Post by zagibu on Nov 2, 2022 12:04:10 GMT
It's great that we had such a warm october and that as a result, prices have fallen significantly due to less demand.
What is that? Privatize all profits and socialize all expenses you say?
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Post by cubby on Nov 2, 2022 13:18:40 GMT
We're moving to octopus, who we wanted to switch to a year ago but they kept telling us we couldn't. I think they were trying to tell us that bulb customers were being moved to octopus without telling us that, which was infuriating.
However, this move does make Starmer's plan for a nationally owned energy company more difficult.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 2, 2022 13:42:45 GMT
Arses. Seems my washing machine has died. Came downstairs Monday morning and found the sockets had tripped...and now getting nothing from the machine (which is a French model, plugged in with a travel adapter). I suspect the motherboard has blown - power is getting to the board but nothing is turning on. I could replace the board for £76.... A really good machine will cost 10 times that today, though. Personally, I'd at least want to see if I could fix it first... if you're confident doing that sort of thing.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 2, 2022 14:14:13 GMT
Looked to be v straightforward - risk is replacing it and it still doesn't work and I'm down £80. Wasn't intending to spend £700+ on a new machine though....£300 if lucky! Edit: If it was £30-40, it would be a no-brainer.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 2, 2022 14:16:11 GMT
What kind of fancy ass Miele washing machines are you guys buying that cost £700?
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Post by geefe on Nov 2, 2022 14:24:54 GMT
Might move to Octopus on sheer principle as Eon are so fucking dreadful. Trying to sort my SEG and they're just shite at getting back
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Post by dogbot on Nov 2, 2022 17:07:36 GMT
What kind of fancy ass Miele washing machines are you guys buying that cost £700? A Bosch one, after a Samsung controversy.
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Post by LegendaryApe on Nov 3, 2022 8:25:46 GMT
Well, Bing informs me that sexy, sexy Carol Vorderman insulates her home, so there you go. She's rougher than a T Rex's aleolas
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Post by dfunked on Nov 3, 2022 8:55:49 GMT
I still would.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 3, 2022 9:12:07 GMT
Anyone on a tracker mortgage better be braced for a bumming today. :/
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Post by dfunked on Nov 3, 2022 9:15:58 GMT
We're waiting for our broker to confirm our application has gone through OK (fixed rate months ago)
Clenched cheeks for a few days!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 9:45:35 GMT
I'm looking forward to my fixed rate ending in February.
Remind me again how making everyone who has mortgage struggle to pay their bills stops inflation when it's mainly caused by large corporations fleecing everyone?
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 3, 2022 9:50:00 GMT
I'm looking forward to my fixed rate ending in February. Remind me again how making everyone who has mortgage struggle to pay their bills stops inflation when it's mainly caused by large corporations fleecing everyone? People don't have enough money to buy shit cause their mortgages and loans cost so much, less shit is bought, price has to come down for shit to be bought. Firms will have to start cutting costs like Rapant rabbits fuck, this will cause unemployment making even more people unable to afford shit. It's going to be a fun time.
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Post by zagibu on Nov 3, 2022 9:56:00 GMT
Hey, at least, if it's going to go on for a while, at the end, you will have back your national industry, because your salaries will be so low that companies will move production from China back to the UK.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 3, 2022 10:30:33 GMT
Hey, at least, if it's going to go on for a while, at the end, you will have back your national industry, because your salaries will be so low that companies will move production from China back to the UK. There are plenty of other places with cheaper labour. We'll just rot.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Nov 3, 2022 11:26:42 GMT
Arses. Seems my washing machine has died. Came downstairs Monday morning and found the sockets had tripped...and now getting nothing from the machine (which is a French model, plugged in with a travel adapter). I suspect the motherboard has blown - power is getting to the board but nothing is turning on. I could replace the board for £76.... Get a new one. Energy saving plus they do cool stuff. Like wash clothes.
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