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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 30, 2022 10:01:27 GMT
They’re traffic, just like you, fucking work around them.
There’s no problem- you’ll be citing that they don’t pay road tax next.
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Post by Sarfrin on Jan 30, 2022 10:11:03 GMT
Not keen on this change that means drivers have to give way to a ped waiting to cross the street at a junction. I hate getting ‘waved over’ by a car at the best of times. Much prefer to wait to assess the situation myself once traffic is clear. No frigging way am I just stepping off the kerb and trusting a driver turning into the road to have seen me. I'll make sure they've stopped first.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 30, 2022 10:18:06 GMT
It’s problematic- the CaR iS KiNg attitude still prevails and, to some extent needs to die out with the fucking dreadful older drivers I deal with all the time that pass too close and yell to get into single file, etc. But maybe we can inch toward a more egalitarian use of roads over time. I won’t be stepping out without double checking either.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 10:33:18 GMT
They’re traffic, just like you, fucking work around them. There’s no problem- you’ll be citing that they don’t pay road tax next. They selfishly clog up roads because they are too good to move over and let a build up of faster traffic pass. Just like tractors, horses or whatever, you can’t ‘work around them’ if it’s busy coming the other way. You just have to wait and wish death on them. Double death if they are doing it next to a cycle path. All it takes is for one hero to decide he is riding that morning to stick ten minutes on your journey.
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Post by Rich on Jan 30, 2022 10:36:09 GMT
The problem with a lot of cyclists is that they are the heroes of their own Tour de Swindon and won’t pull over to let the gigantic trail of traffic past like even a tractor does. I can see this making it even worse. Actually, now along with their right to be overtaken at a safe distance and not be forced into the gutter, comes the responsibility to pull over and allow cars to pass when safe to do so. All these changes are good, but there really needs to be a huge information campaign about them to educate everyone. And the CaR iS kiNG attitude needs to be fired into the fucking sun.
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Post by askew on Jan 30, 2022 10:38:56 GMT
True. I mean, I’ve not read the Highway Code since taking my test…
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 10:39:03 GMT
Actually, now along with their right to be overtaken at a safe distance and not be forced into the gutter, comes the responsibility to pull over and allow cars to pass when safe to do so.. Thank god for that. Now let’s see if the full kit wankers actually do it.
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Post by Sarfrin on Jan 30, 2022 10:42:18 GMT
if they are doing it next to a cycle path. I always give cyclists a wide berth and acknowledge they have a right to use the road, but this one really pisses me off. If a pedestrian's walking in the middle of the road instead of on the pavement it's a sure sign they're either drunk or a lunatic.
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Post by Rich on Jan 30, 2022 10:45:14 GMT
It's normally because the cycle paths aren't fit for purpose though.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 10:52:15 GMT
Just ride on them, your highness.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 30, 2022 10:54:17 GMT
They’re traffic, just like you, fucking work around them. There’s no problem- you’ll be citing that they don’t pay road tax next. They selfishly clog up roads because they are too good to move over and let a build up of faster traffic pass. Just like tractors, horses or whatever, you can’t ‘work around them’ if it’s busy coming the other way. You just have to wait and wish death on them. Double death if they are doing it next to a cycle path. All it takes is for one hero to decide he is riding that morning to stick ten minutes on your journey. Listen to Richard Littlejohn over here. You’re exactly the kind of motorist the changes are aimed at. Just to help you out, here’s the new rules: www.gov.uk/government/news/the-highway-code-8-changes-you-need-to-know-from-29-january-2022If it’s busy coming the other way then you don’t work around them. Why do you think you’ve a right to breeze through everyone else on the road? The trouble with Drivists is they think they’re on their own personal Nurburgring and they’re too selfish to wait a minute so someone on foot or a horse can do whatever silly thing it is they think they’re doing that’s stopping me getting to my Very Important Thing. See how that works? Where did your original statement get you?
There has always been a moral angle to the use of roads- those capable of causing most harm need to take the most care- but now, thankfully, it’s law. It’s the right thing to do and your position is indefensible.
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Post by Rich on Jan 30, 2022 10:55:52 GMT
Oh I'm not a cyclist, I'm a driver. But I'm a good driver so cyclists don't annoy me because I'm capable of dealing with them in a safe and rational manner.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 11:16:28 GMT
Not sure where the idea that because I think a lot of cyclists are selfish wankers I’m an unsafe and irrational driver has sprung from.
Oh, actually, I do. An inherent sense of moral superiority.
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Post by Honk If You're Horny? on Jan 30, 2022 11:22:55 GMT
Roads are made for cars.
Cyclists are permitted to use them (within reason), though that permission should be revoked if they continue to carry on like this.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 11:25:31 GMT
The worst is when you come across an entire peloton of them
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Post by Zuluhero on Jan 30, 2022 11:30:41 GMT
Anyone struggling with the new pedestrian right of way on junctions?
Worst for me so far is crossing oncoming traffic in busy conditions, so not only are you waiting for a tiny gaps, you're also waiting for any pedestrians to cross the road you're turning into too. All the while cars are building up behind you.
Also unsure how to teach my daughter how to cross the road (which I'm doing atm) , because the info kind of conflicts. You have to normally stop and cross the road when it's clear, but walk up the same road to a junction and suddenly you have priority to cross?
Drivers will be presumably waiting for her to cross, but she'll be waiting for the road to clear. I'll probably just tell her to avoid crossing at junctions and cross further down the road.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 30, 2022 11:31:46 GMT
Somehow in countries where cyclists are respected and given space, society hasn’t broken down. If anything should be banned, it’s BMW Drivers (especially black BMWs).
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Post by Honk If You're Horny? on Jan 30, 2022 11:40:19 GMT
Flashing back to cars and grills for a moment, people are right to point out BMW's design errors but there's seems to be a general confusion about design for the front of electric and hybrid vehicles.
Decades of engineering, development and styling refined vents and grills on cars now there seems to be no idea what to do with all that space up front.
Stupidest car design for me goes to the Rolls Royce SUV, holy shit this thing is absurd, there was one parked in my underground parking garage and it hung bulged over every white marking by at least an inch or two. Fuck knows how anyone will get in or out if people park either side. You couldn't park this in 99% of UK parking spaces.
It's like a shit hummer.
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Post by Solid-SCB- on Jan 30, 2022 11:40:30 GMT
I've never had much trouble with cyclists round here. Then again, the typical cyclist in this area is a man on a blatantly stolen girl's mountain bike on the way to pick up some sweet, sweet brown. Those guys are salt of the earth, always do the decent thing and use the pavement and almost run other people over instead.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 11:57:28 GMT
Somehow in countries where cyclists are respected and given space, city hasn’t broken down. In cities, it’s usually fine. Nobody can usually go faster than a bike, anyway. My problem is with dickheads on an arterial B road at 8.30am.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 30, 2022 12:45:20 GMT
Well, you’re full of well reasoned and rational points Nick, definitely feels like you’re worth talking with.
I’ve nearly been killed by close passes several times, most recently a month ago where a car passed me at 60mph while there was oncoming traffic- literally an inch or two in it, one wobble by me and I’m dead. I still have flashbacks fairly regularly. The obnoxious attitude you’ve shown here most definitely makes you a bad driver. It doesn’t matter whether you drive dangerously around other road users yourself or not, the utter bollocks you’ve typed here contributes to the them-and-us coarsening that endangers people’s lives.
Anyway- it’s law now so so it’s out of your hands.
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Post by askew on Jan 30, 2022 13:04:12 GMT
All the while cars are building up behind you. Don't worry about them.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 13:12:36 GMT
The obnoxious attitude you’ve shown here most definitely makes you a bad driver. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t. Just because my soul leaves my body when I see a cyclist ahead of me, doesn’t mean I want to be scraping Lycra out of my front grille for the next week. Statistically, I encounter far more bad cyclists than drivers. Although that number is eclipsed by bad motorcyclists who are the actual worst.
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Post by razz on Jan 30, 2022 14:25:44 GMT
Oh dear... I er... had my Tesla Model 3 test drive. Very odd driving experience, it's like a £40k insane golf kart, took a lot of getting used to doesn't really feel much like a car at all. Is that true of all fully electric cars?
I think it was the aggressive regen breaking that made feel like that. Lots of other little weird things that perhaps having a look around in the menu might fix. I.e. overly sensitive acceleration, mirrors annoyingly automatically moving down when reversing, view out the centre mirror is quite restricted and dim, weird "gear" selector, no easy way to open the froot, no obvious ability to turn off car and lock it. That last one had me in a panic in the carpark desperately googling as I didn't want to just walk off and leave it but that's exactly what you do. Weird.
Wife is absolutely smitten with the stupid thing though, I chose the last car and it's her turn so I can't really say anything. Ah well.
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Post by mothercruncher on Jan 30, 2022 14:31:28 GMT
The obnoxious attitude you’ve shown here most definitely makes you a bad driver. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t. Just because my soul leaves my body when I see a cyclist ahead of me, doesn’t mean I want to be scraping Lycra out of my front grille for the next week. Statistically, I encounter far more bad cyclists than drivers. Although that number is eclipsed by bad motorcyclists who are the actual worst. Yeah, it does, and you’re not too thick to see that either. We’re all really grateful you resist the urge to kill us, if only because it might damage your car.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 30, 2022 14:43:52 GMT
Somehow in countries where cyclists are respected and given space, city hasn’t broken down. In cities, it’s usually fine. Nobody can usually go faster than a bike, anyway. My problem is with dickheads on an arterial B road at 8.30am. I intended to type society.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 14:57:05 GMT
Yeah, it does, and you’re not too thick to see that either. We’re all really grateful you resist the urge to kill us, if only because it might damage your car. You’ve come at this super, super aggressively right out the gate. Might be worth doing a cycling proficiency test to try and avoid all these near misses you keep having. Bad driving? Seems like bad cycling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 15:21:59 GMT
The obnoxious attitude you’ve shown here most definitely makes you a bad driver. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t. Just because my soul leaves my body when I see a cyclist ahead of me, doesn’t mean I want to be scraping Lycra out of my front grille for the next week. Statistically, I encounter far more bad cyclists than drivers. Although that number is eclipsed by bad motorcyclists who are the actual worst. Motorcycles or scooters? I may be biased but most bikers I know are actually pretty good, but the delivery scooters and the kids on 125s don't need proper tests etc and are a menace. Anyway, surely we can all agree the worst are really the cyclists who don't ride single file. Nothing worse than a long road with 2 cyclists nattering away at 5 mph and not letting traffic flow.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 30, 2022 15:27:56 GMT
Motorcyclists. Specifically the 99% who sit a foot away from your rear, drivers side light cluster to try and make you go faster and/or overtake.
Not seemingly realising that they are occupying a space that is most cars biggest blind spot, so you can’t fucking see them.
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Post by steellam on Jan 30, 2022 15:28:49 GMT
Has anyone here gone full electric yet? What are your experiences, pros and cons? Going for a Tesla test drive tomorrow to see what all the fuss is about. My brother has a '21 Model 3 and the build quality is... not good. I'd be interested to hear what his problems were, I've bought a 2021 model 3 because of the tax incentives for my small business and expected a load of issues but I am yet to find a single problem, build quality or otherwise. Wondering if I'm lucky or not as fussy as some.
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