Superman & Lois

His true kryptonite is his dickhead sons.

Maybe I am reading your post wrong, lexw. But that's a weird lecture to give, in response to a throwaway comment about a fictional character interacting with his fictional kids.

Thanks for those explanations of human interactions in the context of fathers and sons, I guess. Not necessary, but I suppose there might be someone on the internet who will need to be told that normal parents don't bludgeon their kids for being cheeky. And that children like to push boundaries.

Jesus.

Anyways, I am still enjoying this. On Ep8 now, but those kids are still annoying. Not as annoying as Yorick in Y:The Last Man, but pretty close. But still wanting to see how they resolve this season, since now that The Stranger has been properly introduced, along with his ability to channel Thor.

Teenagers are cunts to their parents. Pretty standard.

Given I find Superman dull as fuck, I'll give this a swerve.

For me, Supergirl was a character show, and for that reason, I liked it a lot more than The Flash or Arrow. Never watched Batwoman, Black Lightning felt like PG Luke Cage, and Legends of Tomorrow was a poor man's Doctor Who. But I enjoyed the main three DC shows, and out of those, Supergirl stood out best. But the actor playing Superman... never did it for me. So I just haven't made the time for his show. Maybe I should?

Terrie thatcher? Or something new.

I can’t think of a less interesting superman concept than focusing on his home life and parenting. Who is the audience for that?

I'm not so sure it matters when they're your dad. Superpowers or being revered or not, they'll be infallible until you're about 12, and from that point on they'll be uncool and out of touch and soooooo embarrassing!

I haven't seen it, so I can't say if it's a good or bad choice to focus on family, but on the other hand I can't think of many ways to make a Superman TV show with a fresh angle. It's one way to do that. Smallville was another. Other than that, I'm drawing a bit of a blank. 

Wasn't there a Krypton show that disappeared without a trace? 

(Thanks for the apology, lexw. )

I have now gotten to ep12 and this is actually quite a fun show. I'll have to ignore the fact that Superman gets beaten up far too much in this show and just take it as one of those things. He is too powerful in the comics and as said above, there is only so much you can do with a character like that, before it gets boring.
But there have been glimpses of greatness in the episodes to this point. Very interested to see what they'll do for season 2 as an overarching threat. Has Doomsday been in the Arrowverse yet? Because that will be an interesting thing to do on the small screen. The death of Superman. And his return. Will give the supporting cast things to do, other than being annoying.

Oh he's one of those Trumpers isn't he? Like Scott Baio?

To Cain's credit, he didn't go full Sorbo. But yeah, endorsing Trump twice (even in 2020!) makes you a bit suspect in my book.

Just to come back to the topic at hand, my 9 year old had been following this show quite avidly. Doesn't happen often that he will give TV shows his entire attention. Last time that happened was with Avatar. But when the main bad guy was revealed, he looks at me and says "Why is Microsoft Edge trying to kill everyone?"

Very silly, but that malapropism tickled me.

Cain has some leftist views and has historically supported democrats, so he’s a weird one. I suspect the Trump leaning stuff comes from being embraced by the Christian Right with him starring in a bunch of those straight to streaming religious movies.

I started watching Superman and Lois as a result of this thread - it's pretty good! It's not as bizarrely charming as Stargirl (I swear half of Stargirl working so well is the soundscape/music/cinematography though), but it's an interesting take on, well, Superman and Lois Lane. They're both very well-cast and make a cute couple with good chemistry (thank god, nothing worse than a show about a couple where they don't, and it happens regularly). Tyler Hoechlin is already pretty much my favourite live-action Supes after the nigh-perfect Reeve (way ahead of Henry Cavill, who seems like an awesome dude, but is just... not Superman).

Anyway I just got to one scene which had the most perfectly delivered and believable teenager-line I've ever seen on TV, where the daughter of another family was asked to eat at the dinner table, and said "Ha-nope!" whilst walking away. Just horrifyingly believable. In general the teenagers so far whilst seeming in appearance and behaviour a bit older than their alleged 14 (what, like 14 and 24 months?) are pretty realistic, and their behaviour is done in a way that avoids them just being annoying so far.

I'm kind of concerned at the presumably state of the Kent family finances though, given (minor spoilers)

Also more major spoilers (up to episode 3) I was surprised that

Also the fight scenes have been pretty rocking so far, which I did not expect. Actually kind of better in some ways than any previous Superman fight scenes I can immediately think of (admittedly nowhere near the budget and wow-factor of the Snyder ones).

I only watched like two episodes of Supergirl and was profoundly unmoved by it, so can't really comment. This is a pretty different thing from those first two episodes, for sure (on all levels). Same guy playing Superman and technically it's also Arrowverse.

(Also shocked to learn Arrow started in 2013, which is only eight years ago, and only finished last year, it feels like it started like a million years ago in a whole different era of TV, and I guess I didn't watch the last 2+ years)