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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 23, 2021 17:32:12 GMT
Mega Man is better than Mega Man X (MMX 1-4 are still really good games though). Not only is this possibly unpopular, it's also an opinion no one gives a shit about
Ori is twee and boring
Dark Souls' influence on gaming is overblown and nauseating as are most of the things that get bandied about whenever people talk about it
"You die a lot but it teaches you" - like every game ever
The same tactic works for every boss and enemy in the game: learn its attack patterns, avoid them and attack when you can - like every other game ever
"It's never the game's fault" - this is the case for any well made action game, but doesn't apply to Dark Souls
Also they aren't that difficult and playing them doesn't make you some kind of apex gamer (unlike MM)
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Post by Lukus on Nov 23, 2021 17:37:15 GMT
David Bowie is overrated.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 17:39:28 GMT
David Bowie is overrated. I'm afraid to agree with this. I like Bowie, but the best thing he did was open the path for Prince. 👀 And technically, Little Richard was first.
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Post by dogbot on Nov 23, 2021 17:44:20 GMT
David Bowie is overrated. Get out of my house.
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Post by geefe on Nov 23, 2021 17:44:35 GMT
Oh Bowie was absolute guff. Weird voice and style over substance. Even then, style is a sketchy term to use.
Beatles are shit, too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 17:45:04 GMT
Nearly all Roguelike/lites are shit, The best ones are Children of morta and then closely followed by Hades.
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Post by Sarfrin on Nov 23, 2021 17:49:17 GMT
Have you tried it though? You need to, delicious 🤤 They literally are “baked” beans though as I cook them for about an hour in the oven in a Pyrex dish. They have a lovely mush consistency afterwards but with a little crispyness on the edges of the bowl Mmmmmmmmmm. I’m like Pavlov’s Dog here at the thought of them Delicious! You're right, that's the key. Bake the utter fuck out them. They essentially should look like that guy at the end of Robocop before you eat them. We've had this talk before of course but I do a similar bean thing, however I also pop a crushed weetabix in there for extra mass and some tuna for the lols. It ends up not unlike an edible brick. Superb. If I'm feeling particulalry naughty I'll dollop some tobasco in there too. It turns your arse inside out and blows it apart like an over inflated tyre but it's worth it. Are we talking some kind of horrible take on Boston baked beans here or just Heinz abuse?
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Post by Lukus on Nov 23, 2021 18:47:50 GMT
David Bowie is overrated. I'm afraid to agree with this. I like Bowie, but the best thing he did was open the path for Prince. 👀 And technically, Little Richard was first. Yep, when you listen to all of his output, the vast majority of it is shite. When he's good he's very good, but he's mostly pretty average at best.
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Post by hedben on Nov 23, 2021 18:54:11 GMT
I'm hardly a Dark Souls cheerleader, but it absolutely did provide a sense of learning through failure that was unique and new*. Not a single death felt cheap. Except the giant skeleton archers, fuck those guys *to an Xbox player who'd missed Demons Souls
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Post by dogbot on Nov 23, 2021 19:04:14 GMT
I think I played about 10 minutes of Dark Souls and it just felt like work I wasn't getting paid for.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 19:10:36 GMT
I've played every From game since the first Dark Souls, excluding DS2.
I'd say every death in those is cheap. From cheap enemy placements behind walls to groups of enemies attacking you at once, to the sluggish input response and poor framerates. From games aren't the meticulously programmed games their fans think they are
Only Sekiro comes close to being fair.
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Post by Techno Hippy on Nov 23, 2021 19:15:14 GMT
I've never been a fan of the Beatles - I appreciate then for what they did, but I that's it.
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Post by trafford on Nov 23, 2021 19:35:48 GMT
Games involving balls are merely ballgames.
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Post by retro74 on Nov 23, 2021 19:43:35 GMT
I’ve played every From game since Demon’s Souls and none of the deaths have been cheap because there are ways to avoid everyone of them
I can put it on now and get through the game without dying because I learnt how to avoid dying
That’s the point of the game isn’t it? It’s the same as most games in that you learn patterns, pitfalls etc and get better
Definitely not cheap IMO
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 19:51:15 GMT
You can avoid death in any game. No game is designed to be unbeatable. Doesn't mean games aren't designed with cheap difficulty.
From was a more interesting studio when they weren't The Souls Studio.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 19:59:47 GMT
Halo is the worst thing to ever happen ro gaming.
Recharging health means the whole game doesn't matter, only the 30 seconds you are currently playing so removed the whole point of caring. Why try to do a section properly when it has no effect how you get through? Loses the whole fun of trying to get past an area and find some life when you are low.
And don't even get me started on just 2 weapons at a time.
I have tried every mainline game and all are shit and I have never finished any. Appalling games.
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Post by cubby on Nov 23, 2021 20:03:46 GMT
If you are going to have more than 2 weapons you should have to drag a cart behind you to hold all your shit in
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Post by dfunked on Nov 23, 2021 20:04:35 GMT
Fuck that. Just be more like Doom guy.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 23, 2021 20:18:33 GMT
I've played every From game since the first Dark Souls, excluding DS2. I'd say every death in those is cheap. From cheap enemy placements behind walls to groups of enemies attacking you at once, to the sluggish input response and poor framerates. From games aren't the meticulously programmed games their fans think they are Only Sekiro comes close to being fair. Exactly, the games aren't technically proficent enough to claim you never die because of the game. Lock on breaks all the time, the jumping is terrible, the bow controls are a whole load of what the fuck (Nioh managed bows no problem)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 20:19:54 GMT
Fuck that. Just be more like Doom guy. Also any attempt at realism ruins games.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Nov 23, 2021 20:20:49 GMT
I’ve played every From game since Demon’s Souls and none of the deaths have been cheap because there are ways to avoid everyone of them I can put it on now and get through the game without dying because I learnt how to avoid dying That’s the point of the game isn’t it? It’s the same as most games in that you learn patterns, pitfalls etc and get better Definitely not cheap IMO Not the first time though. I can put any game on I've played before and avoid dying. It just means DS isn't that difficult once you get rid of the punishing damage/low health, which is what really makes you die all the time
"That’s the point of the game isn’t it? It’s the same as most games in that you learn patterns, pitfalls etc and get better"
Making DS completely unnotable in that respect. From games are super easy on subsequent playthroughs because you've learn the enemy patterns. It's that they do so much damage that makes learning them hard in the first place
For the record, I've enjoyed all of From's Soulsy games, I just think people talk a lot of nonesense about them
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Post by Zomoniac on Nov 23, 2021 21:18:15 GMT
David Bowie is overrated. I'm afraid to agree with this. I like Bowie, but the best thing he did was open the path for Prince. 👀 And technically, Little Richard was first. I agree. Also, on Prince, I love him, but most of the stuff he’s loved for is shite. Funk Prince is ace, Power Ballad Prince is terrible.
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Post by Zuluhero on Nov 23, 2021 21:18:32 GMT
Broiling down the Souls games into simple soundbites of all the niggling stuff is sort of missing the bigger picture of what makes them so appealing.
Yes, there are myriad little things that are wrong with them, but learning how not to die, exploring every nook and cranny, meeting npcs who you don't know whether to trust, overcoming a hostile world while piecing together the story, having epic boss fights, everything is so good.
And while it can be cheap, you do learn. If some guy jumps out at you from round a corner, go around every subsequent corner with your shield up. It's an easy lesson 😉
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 21:23:06 GMT
I'm afraid to agree with this. I like Bowie, but the best thing he did was open the path for Prince. 👀 And technically, Little Richard was first. I agree. Also, on Prince, I love him, but most of the stuff he’s loved for is shite. Funk Prince is ace, Power Ballad Prince is terrible. I agree with that, but I'm not a fan of power ballads in general. The Beautiful Ones is great though. Diamonds & Pearls, I don't really need that one on my playlist.
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Post by Zomoniac on Nov 23, 2021 21:25:09 GMT
I agree. Also, on Prince, I love him, but most of the stuff he’s loved for is shite. Funk Prince is ace, Power Ballad Prince is terrible. I agree with that, but I'm not a fan of power ballads in general. The Beautiful Ones is great though. Diamonds & Pearls, I don't really need that one on my playlist. D&P the song is bollocks, but I love the album. Give me Thunder and Gett Off over Purple Rain and When Doves Cry any day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 21:29:30 GMT
Since we're going off on a Prince tangent, I'm kind of amazed that Namco got away with sampling Loose! for the Chicago stage in Tekken 1. youtu.be/75AMKEZS80YConsidering how litigious and about owning his masters he was, you'd think he'd have jumped at that. But maybe be just didn't play video games to hear it. Michael would've picked up on it if it were one of his songs, but he'd also probably have celebrated it. Original track for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about youtu.be/cziG7KchLv8
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Post by Dougs on Nov 23, 2021 21:45:19 GMT
I'm afraid to agree with this. I like Bowie, but the best thing he did was open the path for Prince. 👀 And technically, Little Richard was first. Yep, when you listen to all of his output, the vast majority of it is shite. When he's good he's very good, but he's mostly pretty average at best. 70s Bowie (Inc Ziggy, obviously) was incredible. 80s Bowie largely a bit shit but gets a pass because it was of its time. 90s pretty average really. But I can forgive all that because of the 70s.
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 23, 2021 21:47:32 GMT
I agree. Also, on Prince, I love him, but most of the stuff he’s loved for is shite. Funk Prince is ace, Power Ballad Prince is terrible. I agree with that, but I'm not a fan of power ballads in general. The Beautiful Ones is great though. Diamonds & Pearls, I don't really need that one on my playlist. Basically 80s Prince was awesome, Dirty Mind to Lovesexy was flawless, then the 90s arrived and he started to lose his way although Rainbow Children was ace.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Nov 23, 2021 21:56:18 GMT
Halo is the worst thing to ever happen ro gaming. Recharging health means the whole game doesn't matter, only the 30 seconds you are currently playing so removed the whole point of caring. Why try to do a section properly when it has no effect how you get through? Loses the whole fun of trying to get past an area and find some life when you are low. And don't even get me started on just 2 weapons at a time. I have tried every mainline game and all are shit and I have never finished any. Appalling games. This probably won't change your opinion (which is fine), but those things were in the game for a reason. Consoles didn't really do the quicksave/quickload thing that PC games did. So the recharging shields (not health, your health doesn't recharge) made it so that, if you barely got to a checkpoint with low health, you wouldn't automatically screw yourself for the next battle by being so fragile that you'd die in one hit. Like when you reloaded, you would always have some survival capability, which is important in a game with levels as long as Halo's are. And yeah you could just have health pickups everywhere I guess, but the recharging thing suits the combat of that particular game more. The 2 weapon thing was more them trying to figure out how to do weapon swapping when you don't have a bunch of number keys. I thought it was pretty elegant tbh, at least in the first game before everything got complicated. Anyway, it's fine if you don't care for it. The more annoying thing for me was that so many games copied the health recharging thing, even when they weren't designed around it like Halo was.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Nov 23, 2021 22:09:56 GMT
Anyway...
The popular opinions thread is a lovely place to be. Everyone should go post in there too.
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