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Post by EMarkM on Apr 10, 2023 10:05:58 GMT
Well, bloody hell.
I was only explaining to the eleven year old the other day that some humans throughout history can be considered "good", no matter what your beliefs are. I mentioned Jesus, Gandhi and the Dalai Lama as examples, and explained that, whilst opinions vary, someone like Mother Theresa may no longer be considered "good" in the light of new evidence against her.
I'll be honest, this news story has shocked me. Do we know how "true" it is?
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Post by ignatiusjreilly on Apr 10, 2023 10:30:26 GMT
Gandhi was dodgy as well
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Post by EMarkM on Apr 10, 2023 10:41:06 GMT
Seems like most people are
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Apr 10, 2023 10:43:50 GMT
It's just how he says hello
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Apr 10, 2023 10:48:14 GMT
But yeah I dunno... I guess he was joking? It's a really really weird thing to joke about, but maybe there's some cultural context in which is acceptable? That's about the most positive spin I could put on it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 10:50:22 GMT
Maybe he's just a nonce.
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Post by cubby on Apr 10, 2023 10:51:17 GMT
There's something about sticking ones tongue out to greet each other in Tibet. It does feel like we're not getting the full context here.
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Post by geefe on Apr 10, 2023 10:52:45 GMT
Could be. I can't imagine you spend most of your life being the world's most recognisable monk just to get some kids to do weird shit for you. In front of others, no less.
Though we've had Bill Cosby and Michael Jackson so I dunno.
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Post by rawshark on Apr 10, 2023 10:58:17 GMT
I’d like to think that as people get older their sense of humour gets weirder, but it’s still really icky.
Gandhi used to sleep naked with his Grandaughters as proof of his celibacy. We would have just taken his word for it.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 10, 2023 11:19:40 GMT
Dodgy is putting it lightly for a racist, paedo, abuser.
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Post by nexus6 on Apr 10, 2023 11:22:20 GMT
But harsh on user ignatius jelly that
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 10, 2023 11:22:50 GMT
I love how we're trying to rationalise an older man asking for a young boy to suck his tongue. Representing something good doesn't preclude you from being a piece of shit in your personal life. I'm not saying the Dalai Lama is a pos, but you understand the sentiment.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Apr 10, 2023 11:23:34 GMT
Historically, Ghandi was also really into bathing the world in the fires of nuclear weapons.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 11:24:21 GMT
Don't include me in that we with these weird paedo sympathisers.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Apr 10, 2023 11:32:05 GMT
There's something about sticking ones tongue out to greet each other in Tibet. It does feel like we're not getting the full context here. The full context is that he apologised so I think he knows what he did wasn't a cultural thing he could hide behind.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 11:39:26 GMT
Maybe he's doing it to promote his new album coming out.
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Post by kal on Apr 10, 2023 11:43:53 GMT
Well, bloody hell. I was only explaining to the eleven year old the other day that some humans throughout history can be considered "good", no matter what your beliefs are. I mentioned Jesus, Gandhi and the Dalai Lama as examples, and explained that, whilst opinions vary, someone like Mother Theresa may no longer be considered "good" in the light of new evidence against her. I'll be honest, this news story has shocked me. Do we know how "true" it is? I think at some point what we should probably start teaching children (and ourselves) is that the binaries of ‘good’ and ‘bad’ don’t really exist, and that all people are at best flawed even if they try and do good.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Apr 10, 2023 12:17:56 GMT
I think Dolly Parton is basically a saint. I'll just cling onto that belief for now.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Apr 10, 2023 12:20:08 GMT
It's definitely happened, the video is widely available, it's also a very public event so I'm not sure how sinister it really is, it is rather odd.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 12:20:58 GMT
David Attenborough is the only person that is a saint.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Apr 10, 2023 12:22:47 GMT
I'd put £10 on it all blowing over, if I was a Tibetan man.
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Post by dmukgr on Apr 10, 2023 12:29:10 GMT
I'd put £10 on it all blowing over, if I was a Tibetan man. Surely you would use Tibetan currency?
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Post by jimnastics on Apr 10, 2023 12:47:25 GMT
He's lucky the kid didn't panic and genuinely suck his tongue... can you imagine.
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Post by sport✅ on Apr 10, 2023 13:04:01 GMT
David Attenborough is the only person that is a saint. Well there was that Bonobo incident.
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Post by kal on Apr 10, 2023 13:27:58 GMT
Rolf Harris was every bit as cherished and beloved as Attenborough is. Cosby as well in the US. America’s dad and all that.
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Post by Youthist on Apr 10, 2023 13:48:15 GMT
The iplayer 4 part documentary on Cosby is a great watch.
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Post by geefe on Apr 10, 2023 14:38:26 GMT
Ghandi did what? Crikey
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Post by mothercruncher on Apr 10, 2023 16:43:28 GMT
Yep, no one’s fully good or bad, it goes both ways- Genghis used to make those knitted post box scenes in his downtime iirc.
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Post by khanivor on Apr 10, 2023 18:20:30 GMT
It's definitely happened, the video is widely available, it's also a very public event so I'm not sure how sinister it really is, it is rather odd. It’s a bit like the whole ‘Biden was running that kids shoulders therefore he’s a pedo’ Sucking on a tongue is a bit further off pitch but ima not think the dude is a secret pervy weirdo. Frankly, having been under the spotlight, demand, pressure and all the other aspects of being the head of a religion for the last 82 years, since the age of five, I’m shocked it’s taken this long for him to do something a bit odd.
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Post by Lukus on Apr 10, 2023 19:36:35 GMT
Yeah it sounds like he's basically tried to do some bants, but accidentally nonced it right up.
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